(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[2700]
GN[Finnish women's Championship 2014 round 4]PW[Suvi Rovio]PB[Elsa Polvinen]WR[2d]BR[5k]DT[2014-08-17]EV[Finnish women's Championship 2014 round 4]RO[4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Arto Meijin]
;B[dd]
;W[pp]
;B[pd]
;W[cp]
;B[ep]
;W[hp]
;B[en]
;W[cm]
;B[cq]
;W[bq]
;B[dq]
;W[bo]
;B[qn]
;W[np]
;B[rp]
;W[qq]
;B[qk]
;W[el]
;B[br]
;W[ar]
;B[cr]
;W[cf]C[NSM2014a [?\]: good morning klippan
Klippan [4d\]: good morning there
Klippan [4d\]: how is the mood
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;B[fc]
;W[bd]C[NSM2014a [?\]: pretty hangoverish
]
;B[cc]
;W[dh]
;B[hr]C[Tabemasu [3d?\]: lol
maximilan [3d\]: good choice
NSM2014a [?\]: lots of red wine last night
]
;W[ir]C[Klippan [4d\]: :)
]
;B[hq]
;W[iq]
;B[gp]C[NSM2014a [?\]: this joseki maybe not so optimal for b
NSM2014a [?\]: maybe w got a little bit toomuch
]
;W[ip]
;B[go]
;W[nc]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: r6 looks a bit greedy
Ootakamoku [-\]: strengthening h4 stone
NSM2014a [?\]: raelly? 
]
;B[nd]
;W[md]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: well, the way b build e4 shape, says to me he wants to attack ther h4 stone, which is then a bit inconsistant with r6, but thats just me.
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;B[ne]
;W[qc]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: then again b played d3 too, so maybe not, go just too difficult
liquid [1k\]: is o16 good choice?
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;B[pc]
;W[qd]C[iwillboreu [1k\]: ugh
liquid [1k\]: ...
Ootakamoku [-\]: liquid, answer is almost always no :)
]
;B[qe]C[liquid [1k\]: that was retorical question ^^
]
;W[re]
;B[rf]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: uhoh
Ootakamoku [-\]: shape just crashed
Ootakamoku [-\]: I guess b can still get outside with eventual cut at n17..
liquid [1k\]: is suvi rovio redhead? :>
]
;W[qf]
;B[pe]
;W[rg]
;B[rd]
;W[sf]
;B[rc]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: now result looks nice for b :P
Ootakamoku [-\]: w could have extended into corner first, threatetn to connect up with o17 stone
Ootakamoku [-\]: and then if b answers that take outside ponnuki and keep corner
liquid [1k\]: white is pretty confident i guess
Ootakamoku [-\]: b move around m4 looks annoying
Minjhou [6k\]: 5k vs 2d shouldn't be conf.
liquid [1k\]: r11  now?
]
;W[hc]C[Minjhou [6k\]: oh, w 2d
Ootakamoku [-\]: r12 for b now
liquid [1k\]: yea..
liquid [1k\]: white pretty aggressive
iwillboreu [1k\]: that's what i would play against 5k
miao [6d\]: m4 annoying
liquid [1k\]: how to answer m4?
liquid [1k\]: ;>
miao [6d\]: m3 is possible but then m4 suceeeded as a reduction
Ootakamoku [-\]: answer m4 with q8 and then attack it on large with jump out from j4
Ootakamoku [-\]: but that causes severe problems for s13
Michel [6k\]: R12
miao [6d\]: otherwise j6 maybee
]
;B[jc]
;W[he]
;B[je]
;W[lc]C[Gamulon [6d\]: m4 m3 then n3
liquid [1k\]: this game is getting out of hand.. -_-
miao [6d\]: n2
iwillboreu [1k\]: at least b got w to overplay
miao [6d\]: :P
]
;B[bc]C[miao [6d\]: ah u can connect
miao [6d\]: hm
miao [6d\]: ah
Ootakamoku [-\]: start with n4?
]
;W[fe]C[miao [6d\]: so might sacrifiece 4 stones
miao [6d\]: not too big atm
miao [6d\]: about 10 points
iwillboreu [1k\]: l16?
]
;B[mb]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: iwill, nope, almost never
Ootakamoku [-\]: its whites right to have it at any time
Ootakamoku [-\]: oh, u meant for b?
]
;W[lb]C[iwillboreu [1k\]: yes instead of this
]
;B[jg]
;W[lf]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: b l18?
Ootakamoku [-\]: iwillboreu, maybe, tho usually in a 3rd line tigersmouth, like the shape was, you do poke at it from below to ruin the eyeshape potential
iwillboreu [1k\]: looks like strange shape
NSM2014a [?\]: w has 45 min and b has 32 min left
Ootakamoku [-\]: rly rly important to ensure w dont have easy connection to life
iwillboreu [1k\]: go elsa. kill one
Ootakamoku [-\]: aS B HAS R12 TOO
Ootakamoku [-\]: oops, caps
]
;B[hb]C[iwillboreu [1k\]: maybe b scared herself suddenly
]
;W[ib]
;B[ic]
;W[gb]
;B[hd]
;W[gc]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: w had carpeners triangle
]
;B[gd]
;W[fd]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: which usually means there is no cut
Ootakamoku [-\]: like this..
]
;B[fb]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: err.. no connection*
]
;W[ha]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: k18 j16 k16 
Ootakamoku [-\]: would be nice
Ootakamoku [-\]: and then attack m14
]
;B[jb]C[iwillboreu [1k\]: ah nice. still better than connecting top :)
]
;W[id]
;B[jd]C[iwillboreu [1k\]: spirit returned
]
;W[ge]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: m12 
iwillboreu [1k\]: what about n14?
Ootakamoku [-\]: you do not want to play from strong side
iwillboreu [1k\]: if i can kill i want to :)
Ootakamoku [-\]: yes, so can you read unconditional kill?
Ootakamoku [-\]: and have 90% certainty your reading is correct?
iwillboreu [1k\]: i don't see a way out
iwillboreu [1k\]: i'm fine with 60 :)
iwillboreu [1k\]: ko i guess always
iwillboreu [1k\]: then maybe no
]
;B[jj]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: k10 :(
Ukasuhs [4d?\]: useless move kinda
]
;W[lh]
;B[kg]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: b m12 would have been so nice, almost guarantee r14 dies
iwillboreu [1k\]: useless better than this :)
Ootakamoku [-\]: and w keeps control over the game
agrog [1d\]: 5k vs 2d. not fair!
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;W[nb]C[juhop [1k\]: s13 is not so strong
iwillboreu [1k\]: w got overconfident and it got interesting at least :)
Ukasuhs [4d?\]: hard to guarantee anything dies with r18 aji
Ootakamoku [-\]: I wonder if b misses the implication of this move
Ootakamoku [-\]: that its sente against s16 stones
]
;B[lg]
;W[qb]C[Ootakamoku [-\]: q18 now
Minjhou [6k\]: Ootakamoku++
iwillboreu [1k\]: at least she got something
Ootakamoku [-\]: q18 actually rather nice
Ootakamoku [-\]: after that b can l19
Ananda [1k\]: ko is coming
NSM2014a [?\]: b resigns 
iwillboreu [1k\]: awww
Ootakamoku [-\]: noooo!
NSM2014a [?\]: :(
juhop [1k\]: n19 lives after q18 etc i guess
NSM2014a [?\]: thanks for watching and kibiz :)
Ootakamoku [-\]: almost certainly n19 doesnt live
Ukasuhs [4d?\]: no, w would go out with n14
Michi86 [2d?\]: wow, that was quick
Ootakamoku [-\]: uka,s ure, but I cant read what happens after that
Ootakamoku [-\]: still a reasonable chance w just dies bigger
Ukasuhs [4d?\]: no
Ukasuhs [4d?\]: black isnt alive anywhere
NSM2014a [?\]: yes just seemed like b lost her fighting spirit
juhop [1k\]: oo, w has then L19, p19 as sente
Ananda [1k\]: a bit early to resign
Ananda [1k\]: can still fight 
NSM2014a [?\]: yea, I would never resign this early
Ootakamoku [-\]: q18 s18 l19 n14 p13 n13 o12 n12 o10 etc
Ootakamoku [-\]: I definately not sure what happens
NSM2014a [?\]: shitty fights to the bitter end
Ootakamoku [-\]: its beyond my reading skills, but Im convinved its not clear cut if w can live ornot
NSM2014a [?\]: NSM2014b account is scribing the other game. unfortunately its not on top of the active games list
Ananda [1k\]: l4 e10 still open and m17 not yet alive
juhop [1k\]: sure resign was really early
NSM2014a [?\]: last round starts in 3 hours :)
NSM2014a [?\]: 11:30 gmt and 14:30 finnish time
NSM2014a [?\]: but eniwei, check NSM2014b for some more awesome fighting
Ananda [1k\]: is b in the active games list?
juhop [1k\]: is the winner certain already? I mean regardless of game results
NSM2014a [?\]: Suvi has already won
juhop [1k\]: congrats
NSM2014a [?\]: :)
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