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PW[Kari Visala]PB[Timo Puha]WR[2d]BR[3d]DT[2004-09-19]EV[Finnish Championship qualifications]RO[playoff]PC[Tampere]SO[KGS live transcript]RE[W+16.50]
;B[cq]CR[cq]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[qq]CR[qq]
;W[dd]CR[dd]
;B[jj]CR[jj]
;W[jp]CR[jp]
;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[fc]CR[fc]
;B[ep]CR[ep]
;W[cj]CR[cj]
;B[cl]CR[cl]C[bourgeois [2d?\]: infoa?
Cuda [5k\]: \\o/
Zuvi [1k\]: Timo Puha mustilla, Kari Visala valkeilla.
Zuvi [1k\]: Kirjaus saattaa tulla vahan patkittain, kun ei viitti joka siirron valilla juosta tanne kirjaamaan.
Jonii [7k\]: Pelaaks ne millä nickeillä?
Jonii [7k\]: ^^
Zuvi [1k\]: Molemmat pelaa lahinna igs:ssa.
Jonii [7k\]: Ai
Mokki [2d\]: en milään olis arvannut timon pelaavan 3-3 avausta ;)
Jonii [7k\]: Kui?
Mokki [2d\]: huomaa hymiö
Zuvi [1k\]: Jonii, se on sen yleinen avaus. :)
Jonii [7k\]: Mietinki
DangoMouse [2k\]: wow, interesting fuseki (^_^)
Jonii [7k\]: Mutta piti varmistaa
Jonii [7k\]: ^^
Zuvi [1k\]: Dango, Timo often plays that :)
Zuvi [1k\]: Timo Puha 3-dan is playing black, Kari Visala 2-dan is white.
DangoMouse [2k\]: thanks
Zuvi [1k\]: We are doing this the hardest way - the game recording is done with two kifu papers and every now and then I'll get one and click the moves here
Zuvi [1k\]: So they won't be exactly realtime
]
;W[ce]CR[ce]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[ej]CR[ej]
;B[el]CR[el]
;W[ff]CR[ff]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[be]CR[be]
;W[cd]CR[cd]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[bc]CR[bc]C[pulloPsika [?\]: onko tässä joku SM-karsintoihin liittyvä kyseessä?
furr [?\]: jep
furr [?\]: b sarjaan
furr [?\]: uups a sarjaan
pulloPsika [?\]: B-sarjapaikka.. just. kiitos
pulloPsika [?\]: ok.
furr [?\]: jantunen-virtanen on b sarjaan
pulloPsika [?\]: jes
pulloPsika [?\]: vielä tohtisin udella, että mitkä ovat pelaajien miettimisajat
DangoMouse [2k\]: i thought w would b15 after c17
DangoMouse [2k\]: maybe the tengen stone is a worry for him?
Zuvi [1k\]: 1 hour main time and canadian byo-yomi 25 stones in 5 minutes.
pulloPsika [?\]: thx Z
Jonii [7k\]: pulloPsika... Kukas nää olet? :o
Namii [-\]: Jonii
Namii [-\]: Jos et menny Ranmaan niin tuut sit pelaa mun kanssa
Jonii [7k\]: Kattelen tätä välissä. Ranma o semmone sarja ettei sitä pysty katsoo putkee isompia eriä ^^
Namii [-\]: pelii
Jonii [7k\]: Ei!
Namii [-\]: mä en pystys kattoo shemale-sarjaa edes 5min
Jonii [7k\]: Se ei ole shemale :o
]
;B[fg]CR[fg]C[Zuvi [1k\]: Puhukaa pelin ulkopuoliset asiat mieluummin muualla, jos k�y
Jonii [7k\]: Nih, tai sit Namii ois vaa hiljaa :/
Vilzu [1d\]: E13
]
;W[bg]CR[bg]C[myao [9d?\]: ??
myao [9d?\]: who vs who?
furr [?\]: Timo Puha 3-dan is playing black, Kari Visala 2-dan is white.
myao [9d?\]: which 5 players already in top group A?
Zuvi [1k\]: From the qualifying tournament (results: http://www.suomigo.net/Wiki.jsp?page=SM2004KarsintaTulokset) Kare Jantunen
Zuvi [1k\]: Then there are players who did well last year
myao [9d?\]: who is current title holder?
myao [9d?\]: vesa??
furr [?\]: yes
Zuvi [1k\]: Vesa Laatikainen 5 dan
myao [9d?\]: hoho
myao [9d?\]: is antti 16 years in top A??
Zuvi [1k\]: Antti is in group B
Zuvi [1k\]: Only the two best from the qualifying tournament go to the group A
myao [9d?\]: mhm.....
myao [9d?\]: b14 now, think what
myao [9d?\]: to slow
Zuvi [1k\]: There are Vesa Laatikainen 5 dan, Matti Siivola 5 dan, Lauri Paatero 3 dan, Kare Jantunen 3 dan and Otso Alanko 1 dan
Zuvi [1k\]: In group A
Zuvi [1k\]: And then the winner from this game
Olmi [1d\]: Tsau
]
;B[bf]CR[bf]
;W[bl]CR[bl]C[bourgeois [2d?\]: the game is taking place in another room so there will be some delay
]
;B[bm]CR[bm]C[myao [9d?\]: finland has NO 4d?
myao [9d?\]: :>
]
;W[ck]CR[ck]C[Zuvi [1k\]: Not anymore and not yet :-)
Zuvi [1k\]: Olli Lounela was 4 dan but he plays as 3-dan nowadays
Kare [5d?\]: I'm working on it... :)
myao [9d?\]: hoho kare
myao [9d?\]: r u reg. to tampere?
Kare [5d?\]: yes
Kare [5d?\]: your coming?
myao [9d?\]: maybe
myao [9d?\]: i am a poor student, not sure.
myao [9d?\]: but yr prizamoney is attractive:>
]
;B[dl]CR[dl]C[Zuvi [1k\]: And it may be more than that :)
Kare [5d?\]: hey, that prize money is for my poor student life :)
Zuvi [1k\]: Kare, you've won enough finnish tournaments, haven't you :-)
deft [4d\]: looks like you might have to fight for it, Kare :)
myao [9d?\]: hoho
myao [9d?\]: my philosophy in go=to win WITHOUT fighting :>>>>>>>
Zuvi [1k\]: Deft, you should come too :)
deft [4d\]: sorry, I am very busy at the moment... can't go to many tournaments
Zuvi [1k\]: Skip the others and come to Finland :)
ZeroKun [-\]: pay for my tickets and ill come :)
deft [4d\]: haha:)
myao [9d?\]: 0kun? i will pay yr food also:>
ZeroKun [-\]: heh
myao [9d?\]: and yr pocketmoney
ZeroKun [-\]: you wouldnt want to do that :P
myao [9d?\]: and yr entertainment
deft [4d\]: I will only go to Göteborg this fall I think -- it's the closest..
Zuvi [1k\]: deft, :(
Trumelunki [4d\]: E13 or not to E13?
deft [4d\]: maybe next year :)
ZeroKun [-\]: after i finish school, if i have the money and time i will go to china with you guys
Kare [5d?\]: see, now you made Suvi cry...
ZeroKun [-\]: lol
myao [9d?\]: good, =kun
deft [4d\]: :(
myao [9d?\]: by the way, i can promote for göteborg open this fall
myao [9d?\]: baoyun 2p will play a blindgo match with 
myao [9d?\]: macfadyen 6d
myao [9d?\]: and catalin tanaru commmenting!!!!!!!!
Zuvi [1k\]: Nice
myao [9d?\]: baoyun (eyes covered) vs macfaadyen UK
Mokki [2d\]: I think I'll ask my family to pay the trip to china as a graduation gift :)
ZeroKun [-\]: lol
myao [9d?\]: mokki? u r very wise.
Trumelunki [4d\]: Pretty cool idea Mokki
fear [-\]: ;D
sika2 [?\]: lag..
Zuvi [1k\]: Time used: Kari Visala (white) 29 min, Timo Puha (black) 21 min
Zuvi [1k\]: Game time is 1 hours each and canadian byo-yomi 25 stones in 5 minutes.
Zuvi [1k\]:  -s
Kare [5d?\]: What's up with the other game?
Zuvi [1k\]: Let's see..
Zuvi [1k\]: They've played 40 moves
Zuvi [1k\]: Markku Jantunen 2 dan has used 25 minutes, Jaakko Virtanen 1 kyu 21 minutes
TeroM [1d\]: they think too much
Zuvi [1k\]: That's the qualifying game for B-group. In B-group will play Antti Tormanen 2 dan, Olli Lounela 3 dan, Antti Holappa 2 dan, Einari Niskanen 1 dan
Zuvi [1k\]: And the winner from Markku-Jaakko and the loser from Timo-Kari
]
;W[gf]CR[gf]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[gj]CR[gj]C[goantti [3d\]: I cloned this game in Sauna for speculation
sika2 [?\]: A-group is Vesa Laatikainen, Matti Siivola, Lauri Paatero... (and?)
TeroM [1d\]: the winner of this game...
sika2 [?\]: and two more, isn't it?
sika2 [?\]: are the rules explained somewhere, at least in Finnish :) ?
sika2 [?\]: oh, Kare jantunen will be there, because he won the qualifier
deft [4d\]: F11 F10 H12 ?
Zuvi [1k\]: There are Vesa Laatikainen 5 dan, Matti Siivola 5 dan, Lauri Paatero 3 dan, Kare Jantunen 3 dan and Otso Alanko 1 dan
Zuvi [1k\]: And the winner of this game
sika2 [?\]: right, thanks
Zuvi [1k\]: So the three best from last year's a-group, the winner of last year's b group and the two best from qualifying tournament
]
;B[hg]CR[hg]
;W[hi]CR[hi]
;B[hh]CR[hh]
;W[ii]CR[ii]
;B[di]CR[di]
;W[ei]CR[ei]
;B[dh]CR[dh]
;W[ek]CR[ek]
;B[fi]CR[fi]C[Zuvi [1k\]: Time used: white 34mins, black 29mins
deft [4d\]: looks like B wasted a stone in this pattern...
sika2 [?\]: what is the wasted stone? peeping at the bamboo joint?
]
;W[gl]CR[gl]C[deft [4d\]: well, in the end F11 was necessary but now W does not have to answer
sika2 [?\]: ic
deft [4d\]: why G8? B can not cut anyway
Zuvi [1k\]: Could it be for helping K4 stone?
deft [4d\]: yes, but it feels a little bit slow, compared to G3 
]
;B[jg]CR[jg]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[po]CR[po]
;B[pq]CR[pq]C[Golpher [3k\]: white is going for the center moyo?
]
;W[np]CR[np]
;B[oq]CR[oq]
;W[mn]CR[mn]
;B[qn]CR[qn]C[deft [4d\]: G4/H4 looks big
]
;W[jh]CR[jh]C[deft [4d\]: B is probably not too worried since he has B12
]
;B[kg]CR[kg]
;W[kh]CR[kh]
;B[lg]CR[lg]
;W[if]CR[if]C[Zuvi [1k\]: white: 39mins, black: 34 mins
Zuvi [1k\]: (used)
EiNaRi [3d\]: suvi, how are you going to manage byo-yomi? :)
]
;B[hf]CR[hf]C[Kare [5d?\]: e8 must have been overplay
]
;W[ie]CR[ie]C[Kare [5d?\]: (just saw the beginning..)
goantti [3d\]: yes, looks a bit like it
]
;B[fe]CR[fe]
;W[ig]CR[ig]
;B[ih]CR[ih]C[sika2 [?\]: cuts all over..
]
;W[lh]CR[lh]
;B[gc]CR[gc]C[Kare [5d?\]: b will not win this game
]
;W[gd]CR[gd]C[Kare [5d?\]: or maybe, because Kari will go into byoyomi early, and then it gets interesting :)
lauri [3d\]: :)
]
;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[he]CR[he]
;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[fd]CR[fd]C[lauri [3d\]: I think G17 was overplay, H15 would have been better
]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[gh]CR[gh]
;B[gg]CR[gg]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[hc]CR[hc]
;W[ic]CR[ic]
;B[fb]CR[fb]C[Zuvi [1k\]: Getting more difficult now that they're playing faster
Zuvi [1k\]: Would help if I was in the same room ;)
EiNaRi [3d\]: :)
sika2 [?\]: g19 famous tesuji, but does it work here?
Zuvi [1k\]: Teemu writes the game down to two papers and I run between the rooms :)
EiNaRi [3d\]: :)
sika2 [?\]: sound very convenient :)
sika2 [?\]: maybe j18 is better, if it leaves not bad aji...
goantti [3d\]: lots of bad aji at C17
lauri [3d\]: Black group is already alive, so corner is not that big
]
;W[ga]CR[ga]C[lauri [3d\]: J18 should be sufficient
sika2 [?\]: nevertheless, I like that move, g19
sika2 [?\]: (I never get to play it in my games... :-( )
goantti [3d\]: too fancy here, leaves a bit of aji on the right side
Zuvi [1k\]: time used: white 47mins, black 42 mins
Kare [5d?\]: game over anyway
Gardan [1d\]: who will tell it to pleyer
Gardan [1d\]: players
Kare [5d?\]: Kari knows..
Kare [5d?\]: tell it to Timo
Olawi [1d\]: it aint over till its over, boys and girls
Teemu [3d\]: But after k11, black attacks three groups at the same time. :)
Olawi [1d\]: mr. puha has been known to work miracles
]
;B[nc]CR[nc]C[goantti [3d\]: after K11 black has 2 week groups instead of 1...
goantti [3d\]: week=weak
]
;W[cb]CR[cb]C[Gardan [1d\]: hmm .. 25 min to time to leave for opening club door .. hophop
goantti [3d\]: I can print this out if I have time to come into the club...
sika2 [?\]: aji removal...
]
;B[mh]CR[mh]C[Gardan [1d\]: goantti, that would be very nice and maybe vesa sensei will look thorough
goantti [3d\]: crosscut :-)
]
;W[ji]CR[ji]C[Henkipatto [1d\]: chicken :(
Gardan [1d\]: Kari avoids problems
Kare [5d?\]: Tell us about the other game, please
Zuvi [1k\]: Humm.. wait a sec, I'll go and see
Zuvi [1k\]: Markku has used 45 mins and Jaakko 47 mins - hard to tell what happens :)
Gardan [1d\]: kyu mess ?
sika2 [?\]: lots of dead groups? :)
Zuvi [1k\]: Markku has a big territory, so does Jaakko - now fighting how big :)
Kare [5d?\]: all Jaakko's games are like that thse days..
Zuvi [1k\]: But I haven't been watching and a quick look doesn't tell much
Gardan [1d\]: isn't there free dan to use ?
]
;B[kb]CR[kb]C[Zuvi [1k\]: There are me, Teemu and Tuomo watching
Zuvi [1k\]: Teemu and Tuomo are recording the games
Gardan [1d\]: ach
Zuvi [1k\]: You'll see the Markku-Jaakko game later
Kare [5d?\]: great
EiNaRi [3d\]: oh great :)
]
;W[jb]CR[jb]C[goantti [3d\]: k17 :-p
lauri [3d\]: Seem best :)
]
;B[qf]CR[qf]C[Gardan [1d\]: but first we take corner ;)
Henkipatto [1d\]: then we take Berlin
sika2 [?\]: hehe
Gardan [1d\]: wall
Zuvi [1k\]: white: 52mins, black: 50mins
lauri [3d\]: White is paying for G19, it really should have been J18
Kare [5d?\]: really strange to see Timo use as much time as Kari
Kare [5d?\]: usually it's 1 to 5
EiNaRi [3d\]: was c18 really well timed ?
Kare [5d?\]: c18 was bad
Kare [5d?\]: not big enough
goantti [3d\]: as lauri explained...
EiNaRi [3d\]: almost lost move :(
lauri [3d\]: true
Kare [5d?\]: Kari wants to win a close game
]
;W[pf]CR[pf]C[lauri [3d\]: As always
]
;B[pg]CR[pg]C[goantti [3d\]: 2 moves to secure the corner and then black still gets kikashi...
Jonii [7k\]: Kari = b or w? :o
Zuvi [1k\]: Kari is white
Jonii [7k\]: k
Olawi [1d\]: after seeing the opening, I didnt really have to ask :D
EiNaRi [3d\]: :)
EiNaRi [3d\]: you know which one was puha :)
Kare [5d?\]: onneksi ei tarvitse pelata... Tää uusi systeemi oli kaikkien mielestä kamala, nää lisäpelit on todella rasittavia
lauri [3d\]: Timo seems to like joseki in bottom right corner...
Jonii [7k\]: Uus systeemi?
Kare [5d?\]: karsintapelit
goantti [3d\]: sanoo mies "miksi ei voi 4/5 riittää A-sarjaan vaan pitää pelata 5. peli tosissaan"
goantti [3d\]: :-)
Kare [5d?\]: nii :)
Jonii [7k\]: ^^
]
;W[of]CR[of]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[qd]CR[qd]C[sika2 [?\]: request for time check, Zuvi
Zuvi [1k\]: Both players have about 10 minutes.
sika2 [?\]: tx
]
;B[jc]CR[jc]C[Kare [5d?\]: :)
lauri [3d\]: Timo might win, he is much better in fast games, I think
Kare [5d?\]: and he played k17
Zuvi [1k\]: Kari doesn't like fast byo-yomi
goantti [3d\]: hehee, my move
lauri [3d\]: Stones g17 etc are not important anymore,
Gardan [1d\]: why can't they play faster ..
Zuvi [1k\]: white: 56mins, black: 53mins
lauri [3d\]: but how to make use of this
goantti [3d\]: I think Time and I both like to make "interesting" kikashi moves
Kare [5d?\]: i guess w should j18
]
;W[ib]CR[ib]C[Kare [5d?\]: l 15 is option, but..
Zuvi [1k\]: Kari thought that too :-)
goantti [3d\]: l17 naturally for white :-)
lauri [3d\]: I was thinkin of L17 K16 l15 sequence
goantti [3d\]: aa, l15. I thoght just L16
]
;B[pe]CR[pe]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[Olawi [1d\]: timo is brutal :)
Kare [5d?\]: Suvi dont give the moves so fast, old people watching...
Olawi [1d\]: I wish I could have seen his face when playing those moves..
sika2 [?\]: hehe
Kare [5d?\]: If Kari tries to play it safe Timo might still have a chance..
]
;B[lc]CR[lc]C[Gardan [1d\]: lauri, coming to HGK ?
]
;W[ne]CR[ne]C[lauri [3d\]: Today?
Gardan [1d\]: yes
lauri [3d\]: Have not planned, as usual
Gardan [1d\]: :-/
]
;B[og]CR[og]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[ng]CR[ng]
;W[qg]CR[qg]
;B[rg]CR[rg]
;W[qh]CR[qh]
;B[rh]CR[rh]C[Gardan [1d\]: ugly
]
;W[qi]CR[qi]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[rc]CR[rc]C[Teemu [3d\]: Only the good and bad are missing. ;)
sika2 [?\]: did deft just earn a KGS promotion?
sika2 [?\]: congrats! \\o/
Olawi [1d\]: theyre in byo now?
deft [5d\]: thanks :)
Gardan [1d\]: but not towards HGK
Gardan [1d\]: now
deft [5d\]: HGK?
sika2 [?\]: Helsingin Go Kerho = Helsinki Go Club, I think
furr [?\]: sausage factory
Loke [23k\]: it the go club of helsinki or something like that
Loke [23k\]: +is
deft [5d\]: right :)
Murskaaja [6k\]: timo is white?
Olawi [1d\]: no, B
sika2 [?\]: Go-Kerho actually..properly
Murskaaja [6k\]: oh
deft [5d\]: what a mess...
goantti [3d\]: l16 is nästy
]
;B[ri]CR[ri]
;W[mf]CR[mf]
;B[mg]CR[mg]
;W[mb]CR[mb]C[Zuvi [1k\]: Both soon in byo-yomi..
lauri [3d\]: R10 is only move
Kare [5d?\]: not sure s11 was the way to go, now w has eyes in s15 if needed
deft [5d\]: W should L15 , not N18
deft [5d\]: with N18 it is easy for B to play R10
lauri [3d\]: yes, N18 is unnecessary
Murskaaja [6k\]: perhaps W plays L15 next
lauri [3d\]: Then he lost on emove
lauri [3d\]: one move
deft [5d\]: exactly
sika2 [?\]: hmm, I have to go soon. where can I get the game record later?
Kare [5d?\]: b l15 now, no point in saving o17 when cannot attack the corner
goantti [3d\]: on Zuvi's account perhaps? or at suomigo maybe?
sika2 [?\]: sounds good.. thx
Teemu [3d\]: Kare, surely right side bigger?
deft [4d\]: B should R10 I think, Kare
]
;B[le]CR[le]C[Zuvi [1k\]: B is in byo-yomi
Kare [5d?\]: too peaseful, atleast go for o9 or something..
Kare [5d?\]: c
deft [4d\]: peaceful?? 
lauri [3d\]: Kikashi T16 is good for white
Kare [5d?\]: yup
goantti [3d\]: now if white R10 or such makes black to make eyes on the side, N17 is profit
Kare [5d?\]: r11 stones must be dead
]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[Kare [5d?\]: or it will not end well
deft [4d\]: now all B stones come under attack
deft [4d\]: you can't miss a point like R10 ...
Murskaaja [6k\]: B R10 instead jf M15, and the stones in the up would die? 
]
;B[se]CR[se]C[Zuvi [1k\]: white also in byo-yomi.
lauri [3d\]: Outch white missed T16
Kare [5d?\]: now n17 is good again
deft [4d\]: L16
goantti [3d\]: yep
lauri [3d\]: :)
Kare [5d?\]: can get interesting
]
;W[mc]CR[mc]C[Kare [5d?\]: no..
Kare [5d?\]: so now to kill r11
Kare [5d?\]: big scale
Kare [5d?\]: like n8
Kare [5d?\]: or any stone there, just close your eyes and play around there
goantti [3d\]: n8 maybe too big scale :-)
Player1 [?\]: Where are they playing this?
Kare [5d?\]: Tampere
Player1 [?\]: Where in Tampere?
EiNaRi [3d\]: b has to worry about his own (n12) group too..
Kare [5d?\]: in the middle of Finland
Murskaaja [6k\]: Hervanta
Kare [5d?\]: Finland is in northern Europe.. :)
Player1 [?\]: I live in Hervanta
Olawi [1d\]: tampere in the middle :)
Olawi [1d\]: har
deft [4d\]: W can't be killed
Kare [5d?\]: close enough Olawi :)
deft [4d\]: B better think about safety for his own group
Olawi [1d\]: unless you count lapland to also be in finland..
Kare [5d?\]: very safe after r11 dies :)
Olawi [1d\]: which you probably dont ;)
deft [4d\]: how to kill?
lauri [3d\]: Perhaps black Q9?
deft [4d\]: geta :)
Kare [5d?\]: deft you have to kibitz better, you just lost a rank :)
furr [?\]: :P
Loke [23k\]: :/
deft [4d\]: it's because I didn't see Q9 ;)
Kare [5d?\]: I didnt see it either, must be my time soon :)
goantti [3d\]: but kare, you don't have a rank...
Kare [5d?\]: ok, let's talk about something else...
snowman [-\]: i've seen q9-like move in a game between Colmez and Catalin
lauri [3d\]: But White S10 is sente against black, so I don't think white will die...
goantti [3d\]: depends on the libery count
lauri [3d\]: (Too lazy to count)
snowman [-\]: six liberties, hmm, 6d required
Player1 [?\]: :)
Zuvi [1k\]: Uah, kauhee vauhti peliss�.
Player1 [?\]: koska se byo-yomi alkaa?
Zuvi [1k\]: Markku voitti Jaakon 0,5p.
Zalasha [5k\]: mikäs tää on?
Zuvi [1k\]: Player, no Teemu oli byo-yominlaskijana ja mie kirjasin pelia, ei kukaan ehtiny nakuttaa tanne
Zuvi [1k\]: Mutta nyt.
snowman [-\]: from the playing rate, i'd guess visala-puha
]
;B[pk]CR[pk]
;W[rj]CR[rj]C[Kare [5d?\]: haa q9
Zuvi [1k\]: Yep, Kari is white, Timo is black.
]
;B[rf]CR[rf]
;W[sc]CR[sc]
;B[sd]CR[sd]C[Kare [5d?\]: i wonder if Timo counted it or just played s14..
]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[nk]CR[nk]C[Zuvi [1k\]: Kasiala menny epaselvaksi, kun pelasivat niin nopeasti naa siirrot.. hyva kun kirjata ehti
Zuvi [1k\]: Kestaa hieman loytaa siirrot, kun kirjasin siirtoon 190 asti tassa valissa
Zuvi [1k\]: Sitten ei enaa pysyny mukana
Kare [5d?\]: parempi rauhassa
Player1 [?\]: ei kai se byo-yomi niin nopea ollu,ettei kirjata ehtiny?
]
;W[nq]CR[nq]C[Zuvi [1k\]: 25 kivea 5 minuutissa
Zuvi [1k\]: Ja ne pelas sen _nopeesti_
Zuvi [1k\]: Player, koneella oiskin ollu helpompi, mutta kun piti paperilla
Olawi [1d\]: onko jantunen-virtanen päättynyt?
]
;B[go]CR[go]
;W[er]CR[er]
;B[jo]CR[jo]C[Zuvi [1k\]: Joo. Markku voitti 0,5p kun Jaakko puolusti yhen kiven turhaan.
Player1 [?\]: :)
]
;W[ip]CR[ip]
;B[io]CR[io]C[EiNaRi [3d\]: :)
]
;W[dq]CR[dq]C[Olawi [1d\]: argh
]
;B[dp]CR[dp]C[Olawi [1d\]: voi aakkoa :(
]
;W[cr]CR[cr]C[snowman [-\]: toivottavasti oppi jotain
]
;B[gi]CR[gi]
;W[kj]CR[kj]
;B[kp]CR[kp]
;W[ko]CR[ko]
;B[eq]CR[eq]
;W[dr]CR[dr]
;B[kk]CR[kk]
;W[fj]CR[fj]
;B[fh]CR[fh]
;W[jk]CR[jk]C[Murskaaja [6k\]: varmaan tuon muistaa kyll?
]
;B[jl]CR[jl]
;W[ik]CR[ik]
;B[lj]CR[lj]
;W[ij]CR[ij]C[furr [?\]: oliko tää kompa ?
]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[kq]CR[kq]
;W[jr]CR[jr]
;B[kr]CR[kr]C[Murskaaja [6k\]: kysymysmerkki on mun rikkinainen aakkonen
furr [?\]: ah :)
]
;W[jq]CR[jq]C[Murskaaja [6k\]: vai musta aikoo elella noilla kivilla :)
snowman [-\]: ei näytä hyvältä valkealle
]
;B[lo]CR[lo]C[Murskaaja [6k\]: mielenkiintoista
]
;W[kn]CR[kn]
;B[ln]CR[ln]
;W[km]CR[km]
;B[lm]CR[lm]C[Murskaaja [6k\]: tuskalliselta nayttaa kylla
]
;W[kl]CR[kl]
;B[mp]CR[mp]C[lauri [3d\]: mä kun jo luulin, että valkea voittaa...
Kare [5d?\]: voittikos musta just pelin?
deft [4d\]: game over..
lauri [3d\]: Seems
Kare [5d?\]: weird
Zuvi [1k\]: Just you wait..
deft [4d\]: :)
Murskaaja [6k\]: ehka valkoisella on joku assa hihassa
Player1 [?\]: 190 siirtoahan tässä piti olla?
Murskaaja [6k\]: visalan murskaustesuji
Zuvi [1k\]: Player, pelattiin pidemmallekin, mutta en ehtiny kirjata kuin sen verran.
]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[co]CR[co]
;W[bq]CR[bq]
;B[bk]CR[bk]
;W[bj]CR[bj]
;B[al]CR[al]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[cn]CR[cn]C[snowman [-\]: nyt alkaa mennä rähmä-gon puolelle
]
;W[ll]CR[ll]C[Murskaaja [6k\]: tuosta seurannee aika kinkkinen vaanto 
Kare [5d?\]: fight of wills now (atleast not of skill anyway..)
Player1 [?\]: :)
Zuvi [1k\]: Now there might be some wrong moves, it was difficult to write down
snowman [-\]: that's how you translate rähmä-go
Kare [5d?\]: yep :)
]
;B[mm]CR[mm]
;W[nj]CR[nj]
;B[oj]CR[oj]C[Murskaaja [6k\]: wrong moves are not that big problem if the board ends up in a correct position :)
]
;W[nl]CR[nl]
;B[ml]CR[ml]
;W[mk]CR[mk]
;B[ok]CR[ok]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
;B[fm]CR[fm]
;W[nm]CR[nm]
;B[nr]CR[nr]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[nn]CR[nn]C[snowman [-\]: m9?
]
;W[no]CR[no]
;B[on]CR[on]
;W[lp]CR[lp]
;B[lq]CR[lq]
;W[ks]CR[ks]C[lauri [3d\]: Rämä-go
]
;B[mo]CR[mo]
;W[lr]CR[lr]C[Kare [5d?\]: o2 was so bad
Murskaaja [6k\]: onpa vaanto :)
]
;B[gm]CR[gm]C[snowman [-\]: huh
Murskaaja [6k\]: N3 nayttas kivalta valkoiselle
deft [4d\]: why not N3???
snowman [-\]: they should learn how to play in byoyomi
lauri [3d\]: Definitely
snowman [-\]: this is embarassing
deft [4d\]: :)
Kare [5d?\]: now is the right time to say something about the rise in level of Finnish go.. :)
Zuvi [1k\]: Well not sure from now on
Zuvi [1k\]: But white won
Player1 [?\]: :)
Zuvi [1k\]: :-)
snowman [-\]: :[
deft [4d\]: amazing...
Zuvi [1k\]: So Kari Visala goes to group A and Timo Puha to group B
deft [4d\]: thanks for relaying the game..
Murskaaja [6k\]: hopefully Kari kicks ass in A group :)
EiNaRi [3d\]: thank you suvi (and others at tampere:)
Murskaaja [6k\]: this service was most welcome and nice :)
lauri [3d\]: Kiitokset kirjaajille!
Kare [5d?\]: kiitos pelaajille, loppu oli hyvää viihdettä
snowman [-\]: ohoh, nyt kerhoon
Player1 [?\]: viihteen puolelle meni
Zuvi [1k\]: Kare, ja viimeist� viihdett� ei ees n�hty :)
Zuvi [1k\]: Jos ne saa sen kirjattua loppuun tossa ny ite ni laitan sit tanne
Kare [5d?\]: se oli varmaan jo k18
Zuvi [1k\]: Ja Markun ja Jaakon peli kans
Player1 [?\]: zuvi, missä te pelasitte nää?
Zuvi [1k\]: Teemulla
Player1 [?\]: ok
Zuvi [1k\]: Nyt kayvat tuolla peleja lapi
Player1 [?\]: ok
Player1 [?\]: mä meen lukemaan kemiaa ----->
pVeli [1d\]: vaht happen?
EiNaRi [3d\]: kari voitti
pVeli [1d\]: kappas vaan
pVeli [1d\]: onnea ponnea toveri kapellimestarille:)
TeroM [1d\]: outo peli
TeroM [1d\]: no sitä se byoyomi tekee
fear [-\]: lo
fear [-\]: kaikki nukkuu :D
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