(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[5400]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[Finnish Championship 2010 Final Game 3]PW[Antti Törmänen]PB[Javier-Aleksi Savolainen]WR[6d]BR[5d]DT[2011-01-16]GC[Rhis is the third and decisive game for the Finnish Championship of 2010. The game was actually played in 2011 due to scheduling problems.]EV[Finnish Championship 2010 Final]RO[3]PC[Espoo, Finland]US[Joonas Pihlajamaa]C[FinFinal [-\]: Assu is late, the game will start in 20 mins or so
Suvi [2d\]: eventoin jo, pistän kuulutuksen sit kun ootte alottamassa
Suvi [2d\]: sano sit kun alkaa olla h-hetki lähellä
Juippi [3d\]: who could have guessed
cherisse [-\]: being late minus time on clock? who's Assu?
lokori [3k\]: assu == javier-aleksi
innna [?\]: Onko eurogotv:llä taas kuvaa?
snowman [-\]: on tää humoristista tämä my life as a go player
Darchik [3d\]: yoyo
kurii [3k\]: mitenhän tässä käy
TonyTiger [5d?\]: what are they waiting for? christmas?
Suvi [2d\]: assu is late again
Lasokki [12k?\]: hangover?
Suvi [2d\]: he's always late
Suvi [2d\]: mutta
Suvi [2d\]: Antti \\o/
cherisse [-\]: hmm time to find some snack
Suphyph [9k?\]: i had a snack, but assu is late so i finished it already. :(
FinFinal [-\]: Assu is here now, he'll grab some snack and we'll start then
FinFinal [-\]: so likely around 11:30
TonyTiger [5d?\]: :D
FinFinal [-\]: sorry for the delay
Suphyph [9k?\]: link for video feed?
Lacrimosa [?\]: yeah, i want to see Assu eat
TonyTiger [5d?\]: are they going to do the nigiri thing?
kamistar [16k?\]: aamulla kalpeana hiljaa
Suvi [2d\]: tony, yes
verysober [?\]: same ppl playing as yesterday
verysober [?\]: whats teh win to lose ratio?
snowman [-\]: eeh
Suvi [2d\]: erm
verysober [?\]: 1 each
verysober [?\]: ?
Suvi [2d\]: 1-1
snowman [-\]: http://www.suomigo.net/wiki/SMFinaali2010
Suvi [2d\]: there wouldn't be a third game if it wasn't 1-1 :)
smartrobot [9d\]: when will it start?
kurii [3k\]: Less than 20 minutes I guess
smartrobot [9d\]: thanks
Suvi [2d\]: nyt assu ***
Suvi [2d\]: halutaan jo viihdettä :)
snowman [-\]: who needs a game when we have this wonderful kibitz
Warfreak2 [4d\]: ko
snowman [-\]: no ko
kurii [3k\]: Wonder if Antti will play sansan
Warfreak2 [4d\]: it's a ko
kamistar [16k?\]: the one who wants to be finnish champion
Warfreak2 [4d\]: ko to decide the champion
Warfreak2 [4d\]: you'll see
kamistar [16k?\]: manhood ko
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: why no TV broadcast today?
FinFinal [-\]: Nigiri on EuroGoTV
snowman [-\]: this is a zen final
FinFinal [-\]: it's a bit late
FinFinal [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: great!!!!
Suvi [2d\]: \\o/
Suvi [2d\]: oottakaa
Suvi [2d\]: mää kuulutan :)
cherisse [-\]: gg :)
snowman [-\]: nigitte kudasai
MariaOzaw3: anttii'll win
MariaOzaw3: he pretended to lose in first game
kurii [3k\]: Assu got black
FinFinal [-\]: Assu gets black
snowman [-\]: hah, assu learned something from yesterday
Suvi [2d\]: so white wins all the games in these finals
Warfreak2 [4d\]: goooo antti
Gardan [-\]: suvi, no spoilers please :)
Suvi [2d\]: :D
chimbba [1k\]: suvi you know the result already?
Suvi [2d\]: yeah, sure i see the future
verysober [?\]: lol wonder if it's a psycological thing
chimbba [1k\]: this game was played last night after the bar?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
snowman [-\]: they played this game already last year, this is just a ceremony
MariaOzaw3: all final game result in all sport  are all set
sulimo [3k?\]: main time - 2x(late time) ?
verysober [?\]: Performance enhancing drugs ftw
verysober [?\]: bit of steriods and antti has won this one
FinFinal [-\]: Game starts
chimbba [1k\]: weeooo
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pq]C[Suvi [2d\]: Go Antti!
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;W[qc]C[kurii [3k\]: YEs
kurii [3k\]: 3-3
Gardan [-\]: It has begun!
verysober [?\]: r17...very conservative
Kisakazomo [2d\]: \\o/
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;B[cp]C[kamistar [16k?\]: \\o/
Suteishi [6d\]: antti going for his weird hoshi+sansan on W?
cherisse [-\]: 3-3 O_O
Martin82 [7k\]: c16
snowman [-\]: mums mums
chimbba [1k\]: looks delicious
Suteishi [6d\]: D16 would be typical Antti
sulimo [3k?\]: is he eating a pop tart?
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;W[cc]C[snowman [-\]: they are dressed up properly, very good
Lasokki [12k?\]: fuuu-
kurii [3k\]: So good
joo [14k\]: where can I see the video feed?
haltija [-\]: b has won
Juippi [3d\]: Antti finally wants to win
verysober [?\]: wooooh
Suvi [2d\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
verysober [?\]: i forgot my eurogotv username
sulimo [3k?\]: is there any time penalty?
fatihsulak [?\]: r5 would be fun here
verysober [?\]: could i just have video stream
cherisse [-\]: two 3-3 omg?
snowman [-\]: relax, sulimo
Excalibor [?\]: whoah
Suvi [2d\]: very, then http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv3s-show
joo [14k\]: thanks
smartrobot [9d\]: go antti!
Excalibor [?\]: antti is in good mood :-)
measwel [1d?\]: it just started?
sulimo [3k?\]: relax? sorry, i'll refrain from asking questions
kurii [3k\]: Going to be tough for Assu
FinFinal [-\]: sulimo: Assu will now need to share his time between the bread and game
kryft [2d\]: How are they dressed? I can't see the feed.
FinFinal [-\]: so kinda penalty yes :)
Suvi [2d\]: kauluspaidat
verysober [?\]: thanks suvi
sulimo [3k?\]: mmm, delicious penalty
kryft [2d\]: :)
python [12k\]: would u like to comment for us smartrorbot?
verysober [?\]: python...good suggestion
sulimo [3k?\]: are you offering for him? haha
smartrobot [9d\]: sorry, i have to go out for lunch
measwel [1d?\]: That's a psychological ploy. I am the master. I have the food. :)
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;B[qf]C[Suteishi [6d\]: ah, cya later smartrobot
smartrobot [9d\]: after lunch, i can be back to comment =D
Suteishi [6d\]: :)
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;W[nc]C[Suvi [2d\]: and where's milan
joo [14k\]: kryft: http://i55.tinypic.com/2h6x2xk.jpg
cherisse [-\]: have lunch while watching :o
FinFinal [-\]: sulimo: Yes, the event catering is sponsored by me
smartrobot [9d\]: sorry, have supper
smartrobot [9d\]: not lunch =o
verysober [?\]: hm...igot work in 1 hour...so i hope your lunch is before i leave
chimbba [1k\]: w really likes the third row
FinFinal [-\]: should've hanged a picture of myself on the wall as a sponsor logo :)
GDragon [2d\]: hmm miks toi video lagii
fatihsulak [?\]: r8 
Suvi [2d\]: finfinal, hehe
kamistar [16k?\]: koska internetsku
kamistar [16k?\]: valaistus muuttui
snowman [-\]: kaamos päättyi
FinFinal [-\]: I adjusted the framerate to a bit slower, seems to change the brightness
Suvi [2d\]: heh mä luulin saaneeni still-kuvaa, mutta ne olikin vaan uskomattoman paikallaan tosi pitkään ilmeisesti
Suvi [2d\]: koska sit kuitenkin ilman mitään nykäystä alkoi taas liike :>
lokori [3k\]: joo sama täällä :)
chimbba [1k\]: onko tämmösestä fusekista mitään teoriaa?
Suvi [2d\]: "alussa voi pelata mitä vaan" :)
verysober [?\]: yellow top is the colour of a winner
chimbba [1k\]: suvi ok :D
acellist1 [4k\]: seems that go is popular in finland
kryft [2d\]: Ei tämä niin erikoinen ole.
Suvi [2d\]: jeh
snowman [-\]: assu's kakari was "a new move"
fatihsulak [?\]: thx finfinal it seems better now 
Suvi [2d\]: acellist, finland has most go players compared to the population in europe
acellist1 [4k\]: very neat, thanks
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;B[qj]C[kamistar [16k?\]: do they use fmle (i heard it could improve quality in streams)
kamistar [16k?\]: flash media live encoder
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;W[ep]C[Gardan [-\]: first high move 
verysober [?\]: Not surprising finland also comes on top with excellent schools then...given their big go playing populous
zife [-\]: relatively big
Inousha [2k\]: last supper?
joo [14k\]: populous is an adjective
fatihsulak [?\]: e3 (probably bad guess again :) )
zife [-\]: I'm fairly sure germany and france have far more players than finland
Capital [?\]: populace :)
measwel [1d?\]: b should pincer
measwel [1d?\]: question is which pincer
Martin82 [7k\]: what about that 3space extension on the right?
kurii [3k\]: H4
measwel [1d?\]: maybe yes
zife [-\]: population*
FinFinal [-\]: Stream delay seems to be about 5 seconds
acellist1 [4k\]: i think h4
joo [14k\]: or populace
zife [-\]: populace normally only means common people
largehc [2k\]: oh, it's äntti's 3-3
Excalibor [?\]: only one stone over the 3rd line!
Suteishi [6d\]: actually i think g4 h4 e3 d6 are all playable
verysober [?\]: zife it's a technicallity, lets talk about game...i think pincer is ftw
coolzr [11k\]: g3
zife [-\]: of course it's technicality
Suteishi [6d\]: G3 is bad imo
Suteishi [6d\]: G3 might make a low position for B with Q3
Suteishi [6d\]: i would bet my money on g4 or h4 
Suvi [2d\]: oij, jusandanin "ratkaiseva peli" svenska rummetissa
fatihsulak [?\]: white is also low in the board, so maybe no problem :) 
Suvi [2d\]: namii vs. weiying
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;B[gp]
;W[en]
;B[cn]C[Suteishi [6d\]: fatih, i mean it might make B stones not effective
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;W[cq]
;B[bq]
;W[dq]C[verysober [?\]: thqt is quick 
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;B[bo]C[kryft [2d\]: Go namii
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;W[gq]
;B[hq]
;W[hp]
;B[ip]C[measwel [1d?\]: uh oh
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;W[ho]
;B[iq]C[fatihsulak [?\]: no g2?
snowman [-\]: this is joseki as well
measwel [1d?\]: the result seems good for b
joo [14k\]: Oh god, he's eating something with his fingers while playing Go
joo [14k\]: I hate it when people do that
Suteishi [6d\]: measwel, remember it's B sphere of influence
lokori [3k\]: perhaps eating while playing is a clever psychological tesuji againts the opponent?
zak86rog [5k\]: that's called metagame
joo [14k\]: XD
Gardan [-\]: its also honte if you are hungry
fatihsulak [?\]: if g5 then result is worse than normal joseki right? 
Martin82 [7k\]: sure lokori, but for that purpose its even better to eat an apple...
driftwood [13k?\]: hm like a real life ko threat? i know where your car is so dont you dare win that ko?
Martin82 [7k\]: more noise ;)
snowman [-\]: white g2, black j5 and black's position is ok
measwel [1d?\]: yes
snowman [-\]: "right side" is almost like a mini-chinese
lokori [3k\]: white is gazing the board dead serious
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;W[go]C[verysober [?\]: what
chimbba [1k\]: odd move
verysober [?\]: white is eating
verysober [?\]: and drinking
verysober [?\]: no guy in white shite
verysober [?\]: lol
verysober [?\]: shirt*
Lacrimosa [?\]: white shite o_o
chimbba [1k\]: g2
Suvi [2d\]: krhm
fatihsulak [?\]: h5 at f4 better so this is a little good for black? 
verysober [?\]: complete typo then
haltija [-\]: b should g2 and d16
acellist1 [4k\]: w opts for less aji
measwel [1d?\]: I think w should have invaded
snowman [-\]: special strategy but not easy to recommend
verysober [?\]: b n4?
lokori [3k\]: i would like to know what white is planning with that move. j5 is not that sente anymore if black plays it but this still seems very strange
cherisse [-\]: there are foods on the side of the goban!
FinFinal [-\]: Black has 75 minutes, white 83
measwel [1d?\]: enough to finish dinner...
largehc [2k\]: you mean finnish the dinner
measwel [1d?\]: :)
chimbba [1k\]: g2 f3 q5
Suvi [2d\]: lokori, ainakin se on ny täysin aseteltu
measwel [1d?\]: let him play O14
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;B[io]
;W[po]C[fatihsulak [?\]: q5 new guess :)
Gardan [-\]: lokori, we probably get info of it from gooften later
Vilikki [8k?\]: Is there a videofeed somewhere?
FinFinal [-\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
lokori [3k\]: hah i thought black would not play j5 after that white move but he did :)
measwel [1d?\]: yes there is
acellist1 [4k\]: q5 seems good against this structure now
haltija [-\]: j5 too timid
Vilikki [8k?\]: Thank you
chimbba [1k\]: i never understand moves like j5
snowman [-\]: why don't they play g2
measwel [1d?\]: b is going to make lots of points here anyway
fatihsulak [?\]: maybe r4 is better now 
measwel [1d?\]: but he must mind r12
Martin82 [7k\]: p5?
measwel [1d?\]: p5 attaches weak stone
measwel [1d?\]: but hmmm
hhikaru [8k\]: O4 ?
largehc [2k\]: would pincer
zak86rog [5k\]: I think he should pincer too
measwel [1d?\]: what about q4 ?
lokori [3k\]: i would play o4 but it is not the right move i think :)
zak86rog [5k\]: run w towards the wall
measwel [1d?\]: o4 probably allows w to settle easy
Gresil [-\]: the wall isn't thick
measwel [1d?\]: he has space all the way to r8
measwel [1d?\]: after r5 w can only make a mini extension
measwel [1d?\]: but it does threaten r12
wuztop: r4, r5, or r7 my guess
Gekirin [1d\]: q4 give easy shape for white
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
kasuaali [30k?\]: tien is black, right? the android client shows only - for names.
Suvi [2d\]: tien is white
measwel [1d?\]: gekrin sequence?
Gresil [-\]: what's this about gherkins
measwel [1d?\]: how to play after q4?
kasuaali [30k?\]: Suvi, eh? how are the colors chosen then? i thought Tien was white for the 2nd game?
Inousha [2k\]: r5 r6 r4 q6 o3 r8 ?
FinFinal [-\]: kasuaali: New nigiri
kasuaali [30k?\]: weird.
Suvi [2d\]: not at all
Suvi [2d\]: they first had nigiri to choose colours for the first two games
Suvi [2d\]: and, if an extra game is needed, then it's new nigiti
Suvi [2d\]: r
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;B[np]C[snowman [-\]: i'm very upset about their weird play in the joseki that i will probably lose this kibitz
fatihsulak [?\]: o4 unexpected 
Inousha [2k\]: mmmh yeah, I read O4 as bad lol
Gekirin [1d\]: just... if B q4 , w r5 ,p5 later helped w
lokori [3k\]: yes like i said i would have played this but i don't think it is correct :)
haltija [-\]: o4 is probably what white wanted
cherisse [-\]: but doesn't o4 seems enough for black
measwel [1d?\]: maybe b has a surprise in mind
Martin82 [7k\]: its solid
fatihsulak [?\]: maybe black wants to play p10 in sente
snowman [-\]: maybe black is planning for a dinerchtein-move
Lacrimosa [?\]: that's r3 r4, right?
measwel [1d?\]: what's a dinerchtein move?
FinFinal [-\]: breakfast style
kamistar [16k?\]: planning dinner?
chimbba [1k\]: r2 r4?
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;W[ql]C[snowman [-\]: r3, r4, right
Liisa [2d\]: this could be good place to play breakfast move, because black is strong
lokori [3k\]: assu just finished breakfast so it's antti's turn for breakfast now
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;B[qp]C[snowman [-\]: white avoids that :)
measwel [1d?\]: what's a breakfast move?
Suteishi [6d\]: p8
chimbba [1k\]: r4 was quick
Inousha [2k\]: yeah
Suteishi [6d\]: can't block at r5 
snowman [-\]: he played r4 nevertheless :)
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;W[ol]
;B[oj]C[Liisa [2d\]: so it looks like white's decision was good to avoid breakfast move =)
Inousha [2k\]: fighto! :p
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;W[qo]C[measwel [1d?\]: what's a breakfast move?
fatihsulak [?\]: r5 instead of q5 would give the same result :) 
Gekirin [1d\]: if first r5 , b q7 ?
snowman [-\]: white r3, black r4
Martin82 [7k\]: b looks fine here to my eyes
lokori [3k\]: breakfast move sounds very menacing and vicious
lokori [3k\]: must play that
measwel [1d?\]: but what is it?
lokori [3k\]: in the next available opportonity
kamistar [16k?\]: well if you don't eat will you play more hungrier?
snowman [-\]:  measwel, do you read any replies?
measwel [1d?\]: I did not see any?
Suteishi [6d\]: why is it breakfast move? it's a very known move to make korean small avalanche
lokori [3k\]: breakfast (the pro player) likes to play it?
Suteishi [6d\]: q5 o4 r3 r4 
chimbba [1k\]: he wrote an article about it
Liisa [2d\]: I like it a lot and I have developed my own special case variant of that move.
snowman [-\]: dinerchtein wrote about it first, in english
Suteishi [6d\]: ah ok
chimbba [1k\]: "my favourite trick play" or so
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
measwel [1d?\]: so what is the move exactly?
Gresil [-\]: it's been said about six times so far
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i prefer blacks position here
Suteishi [6d\]: measwel, 'ill open a clone of this game to show you
measwel [1d?\]: okay thank you
Suvi [2d\]: where
Suvi [2d\]: sauna?
Suteishi [6d\]: in my room, just use my gamelist
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;B[ml]C[dxxd [1k\]: oh man :/
HoTing [1d\]: is this really an attack?
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;W[nk]C[Inousha [2k\]: nah, he want bottom real bad
snowman [-\]: m11, perhaps
Inousha [2k\]: chase white while b gets strong
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;B[mi]C[snowman [-\]: and then d16 for a laarge scale attack
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;W[mk]C[waldi16 [5d?\]: go black
FinFinal [-\]: White has 60 minutes, black 80
Inousha [2k\]: this seems so bad for w lol
FinFinal [-\]: sorry, White 80, black 60
measwel [1d?\]: Suteishi, thank you for showing.
Suteishi [6d\]: np :)
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;B[ll]C[sulimo [3k?\]: yes ty
sulimo [3k?\]: i don't like w's position
smartrobot [9d\]: i'm back =D
sulimo [3k?\]: did you sup?
Suteishi [6d\]: wb
acellist1 [4k\]: yay
smartrobot [9d\]: yes
sulimo [3k?\]: hope it was good :-)
Inousha [2k\]: ...
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;W[lj]C[smartrobot [9d\]: good, i'm full now
kamistar [16k?\]: hope not too full
Inousha [2k\]: ...
smartrobot [9d\]: haha, not too full
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;B[dd]C[Inousha [2k\]: oooh snowman was right
Inousha [2k\]: ^_^
snowman [-\]: ^_^
erf [?\]: SE is funny as usual
measwel [1d?\]: w needs a small miracle
smartrobot [9d\]: d16 is not a good choice for b i think
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;W[cd]C[lokori [3k\]: it's not that sruprising that snowman was right because he is very strong :)
measwel [1d?\]: what should it be?
erf [?\]: what would you have played, smartrobot?
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;B[de]
;W[eb]C[smartrobot [9d\]: approach from f17
measwel [1d?\]: for territory?
smartrobot [9d\]: yes
erf [?\]: it seems hard for B to use the influence he is making
sulimo [3k?\]: i guess the center isn't very big for anyone
smartrobot [9d\]: because b cant find much use of d16 for development
measwel [1d?\]: thank you
Suteishi [6d\]: sounds like our last game smart... ;P
smartrobot [9d\]: =o
Suteishi [6d\]: "can't find much use of.... influence"
Suteishi [6d\]: :P
measwel [1d?\]: maybe b can turn c15
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;B[gd]
;W[bf]C[smartrobot [9d\]: w is happy with this joseki
measwel [1d?\]: big corner
Inousha [2k\]: this seems bad for b indeed
measwel [1d?\]: i wonder if w can still compensate for all B got in lower right ?
Suvi [2d\]: it's only just begun
Lodurr [1d?\]: it will be good only if he'll find a way to attack w weak group
Suvi [2d\]: patience
sulimo [3k?\]: if w group was weaker then i think it'd be okay
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;B[dh]C[snowman [-\]: g2, pleez
snowman [-\]: anyone
notMe [1d\]: how about o6? looks important for both.
Inousha [2k\]: lol
Suteishi [6d\]: B G2 and W say, heh tenuki
measwel [1d?\]: tenuki and die?
lokori [3k\]: black o6 seems to leave holes for white to exploit
notMe [1d\]: g2 gote? really?
Inousha [2k\]: tanuki ^^
Suteishi [6d\]: if hes brave ;)
Suteishi [6d\]: i know some who are
measwel [1d?\]: thankyouki :)
FinFinal [-\]: White made a short tea-nuki
FinFinal [-\]: And now back. :)
sulimo [3k?\]: you should have changed goban to chess board while he was gone
measwel [1d?\]: hehe.
floating [1k\]: wonder what flavor his tea was
snowman [-\]: and change the excalibur to an ing clock
Suteishi [6d\]: hard to figure out the next move
sulimo [3k?\]: that'd just be cruel and unusual
kamistar [16k?\]: tenuke
FinFinal [-\]: floating: Clipper organic earl grey :)
measwel [1d?\]: a pro would have no trouble
Abominable [11k?\]: something around k10 maybe
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
floating [1k\]: ok :>
measwel [1d?\]: k10 I would never
wuztop: L17?
measwel [1d?\]: I think W should help his r5 group
FinFinal [-\]: Black has 54 minutes, white 74
Jake6500 [20k\]: Agreed
Jake6500 [20k\]: But I suck so. Lol
DangoMango [2k\]: hwo strong are these players on kgs?
Lodurr [1d?\]: k16 maybe
Lodurr [1d?\]: 8-9d white and 6d b
FinFinal [-\]: White is TIen 8d and black Ergoproxy 6 dan
zife [-\]: antti is tien, assu is ergoproxy
Abominable [11k?\]: lol I just used the link, and it had someone in boxers yawning
Abominable [11k?\]: then I realized it was an advertisement
mpi [2k?\]: yesterday tien was 9d:)
sulimo [3k?\]: "then i took a sip of coffee, then i yawned, then i told everyone what i was doing in game chate" -- abominate
snowman [-\]: rank fluctuation
Abominable [11k?\]: hmm if this is the 3rd game, what is the score ?
FinFinal [-\]: Ah so he is, 9d
zife [-\]: finfinal, is it loose tea or tea bags
Abominable [11k?\]: 1-1 ?
FinFinal [-\]: it fluctuates a bit
Abominable [11k?\]: there wouldn't be a 3rd game if it was 2-0, right?
Lodurr [1d?\]: obviously. It's deciding game
FinFinal [-\]: zife: somewhat loose tea bags :)
erf [?\]: let's hope for no triple ko
Abominable [11k?\]: I'm new to tournament stuff, so I had to ask
FinFinal [-\]: Abominable: No, if one wins first two
sulimo [3k?\]: r12
erf [?\]: r12 seems a little risky
Abominable [11k?\]: okay, so my question was silly : - )
sulimo [3k?\]: yes, but most fun maybe
measwel [1d?\]: r12 interesting idea
Suteishi [6d\]: r12 is good, but risky :p
Suteishi [6d\]: so why not play it?
measwel [1d?\]: hihi
lokori [3k\]: r12 sounds like totally irresponsible :) P12 or P13 perhaps 
measwel [1d?\]: nah
sulimo [3k?\]: p12 or p13 lack the right emotion
Suteishi [6d\]: lokori, those just force B fix up his shape
measwel [1d?\]: yes
Martin82 [7k\]: r12 q13
lokori [3k\]: M5 would also be the proper emotional move i think
Abominable [11k?\]: for anyone who hasn't noticed it yet, black is pretty sure about his victory
Abominable [11k?\]: I remember seeing "next Finnish champion" in his info
Warfreak2 [4d\]: unfortunately antti is far too strong
slownet [6d?\]: white is pretty sure too
Suvi [2d\]: it's been there for quite a many years i
Suvi [2d\]: i'd say
Abominable [11k?\]: oh, I see : )
erf [?\]: Antti has been champion previously, though, hasn't he?
apina [1k\]: yes, 2008
donGoku [3k\]: what is the result till this game?
Abominable [11k?\]: 1-1
kamistar [16k?\]: 1-1!
Vandraren [4k\]: 1-1
Abominable [11k?\]: this is the deciding game
donGoku [3k\]: thx
Abominable [11k?\]: (I wasn't the only one asking this! :))
donGoku [3k\]: :)
joo [14k\]: And more than one person answered.
joo [14k\]: Possible symmetry!
Suteishi [6d\]: smartrobot, whats a more cautious way than invading R12?
sulimo [3k?\]: 1-1
apina [1k\]: K16
fatihsulak [?\]: how is o5 
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;W[ne]C[Gresil [-\]: that looks kind of nebulous.
Suteishi [6d\]: this looks kinda weird
measwel [1d?\]: he can extend further on top after this. maybe not bad
lokori [3k\]: perhaps this prepares for r12 or extension
kamistar [16k?\]: niin hyvää puuta
wolokom [5k\]: p3 is very nice for white
lokori [3k\]: after this r12 seems not so irresponsible anymore
fatihsulak [?\]: r16 
wuztop: it also shows confidence he is not behind on points
eleiteo [-\]: w O15 makes miai of R12 and J17
snowman [-\]: tien-like move
lokori [3k\]: very nice game so far
Michi86 [6k\]: how about the black's left side...
sulimo [3k?\]: i'd just r12 and let god sort it out
measwel [1d?\]: r12 could be losing move
largehc [2k\]: yeah
measwel [1d?\]: w takes initiative then
Suvi [2d\]: sulimo, "god to play and win" -tsumego, huh
chimbba [1k\]: so what's the active solution?
measwel [1d?\]: good question. If you see it, let me know :)
sulimo [3k?\]: yup ^^
largehc [2k\]: what about n13 ?
chimbba [1k\]: maybe s17..or s9..dunno. w positon looks quite good
sulimo [3k?\]: s17? i don't know about that
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;B[ng]C[FinFinal [-\]: pa-chik
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;W[id]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
largehc [2k\]: so colse
sulimo [3k?\]: ugly shape for b
chimbba [1k\]: yeah..
eleiteo [-\]: as predicted ;)
measwel [1d?\]: and w gets what he wanted
largehc [2k\]: better an ugly shape than no shape
measwel [1d?\]: big extension
Suteishi [6d\]: ugly shape and still has a scary weakness
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;B[jl]C[lokori [3k\]: that was a nice move from black
lokori [3k\]: prepares all sort of possibilities
measwel [1d?\]: k8?
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: time to kill d16
largehc [2k\]: what?
largehc [2k\]: how is that killable in any way?
smartrobot [9d\]: the game is not exciting.. no fight, no blood
snowman [-\]: TIME TO KILL D16
sulimo [3k?\]: wishbone shape... it looks like a wishbone and you wish it was stronger 
Martin82 [7k\]: k8 looks slow to my eyes
smartrobot [9d\]: probably because it's final game
Gresil [-\]: if it were stronger you couldn't wish upon it
TonyTiger [5d?\]: both antti and javier are sharing the same hallucination... *sigh*
measwel [1d?\]: which is?
FinFinal [-\]: smartrobot: If yesterday's games were of any indication, it will get bloody - soon :)
largehc [2k\]: you can't win games only with a berserker rage 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i can
lokori [3k\]: cho chikun can
Inousha [2k\]: lol
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;W[nn]C[smartrobot [9d\]: hope so =D
largehc [2k\]: try winning a championship with that
lokori [3k\]: invade recklessly and kill the opponent or live - cho chikun way 
Martin82 [7k\]: gu li can too
measwel [1d?\]: long overdue move
Inousha [2k\]: w plans for P3 soon?
eleiteo [-\]: Most beauty and subtleness of go are not in blood or fightning. To me, this is very exciting
]
;B[gr]C[Jinni [2k\]: this could not be more boring
snowman [-\]: yey
Suvi [2d\]: tulihan se sieltä
itepilah [1d\]: what are you eating Final?
]
;W[fq]C[lokori [3k\]: heh, i don't think o6 was overdue but after k8 it became more important
sulimo [3k?\]: and some people are bloodthirsty maniacs and that excites them... like mr robot apparently
Inousha [2k\]: lol jinni
]
;B[mn]C[FinFinal [-\]: itepilah: pistachio nuts
lokori [3k\]: now what will white do that is a good question
Suvi [2d\]: kill
Inousha [2k\]: I'd like to see some go-kungfu aswell tbh
Suvi [2d\]: all
measwel [1d?\]: you got the question right :)
lokori [3k\]: is n5 possible? is there aji to break havoc there
sulimo [3k?\]: hane
snowman [-\]: i thought i ate them all yesterday
itepilah [1d\]: that black thing is pistachio?
lokori [3k\]: i think now the long awaited fight will ensue
smartrobot [9d\]: i like watch bloody fight
esidebob [-\]: how much time do the players have?
esidebob [-\]: left
sulimo [3k?\]: Food catered by and consumed by FinFinal :-)
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;W[rp]C[Inousha [2k\]: eehhh
FinFinal [-\]: snowman: you only ate the tip of the iceberg ;)
zife [-\]: maybe you should be called smartterminator instead
Inousha [2k\]: both awfully carefull
]
;B[rq]
;W[ro]C[FinFinal [-\]: Black has 45 minutes, white 62
Inousha [2k\]: o5 for w
Inousha [2k\]: then P3
esidebob [-\]: thanks
]
;B[no]C[Inousha [2k\]: awww
sulimo [3k?\]: b&w are pacifists it seems
ikuy [3d\]: how much time each other left?
erf [?\]: B can still invade the upper side and start a fight
Lodurr [1d?\]: did you see previous games, sulimo?
itepilah [1d\]: is this sente?
sulimo [3k?\]: no
sulimo [3k?\]: but i need any information to draw conclusions, i'm not stupid
sulimo [3k?\]: i don't need* ><
FinFinal [-\]: ikyu: see my comment on previous move
Inousha [2k\]: or are youuuu ^^
lokori [3k\]: i don't think this is sente against white but rather big gote to seal the territory
lokori [3k\]: if so, where will white play
sulimo [3k?\]: r12
sulimo [3k?\]: :-)
]
;W[qg]C[lokori [3k\]: almost :)
erf [?\]: off by one
ikuy [3d\]: okay finfinal thanks, just joined here :)
Gresil [-\]: oh those wacky pacifists
lokori [3k\]: now the fight
sulimo [3k?\]: yes, w decided to cuddle with b
lokori [3k\]: white settled with S4 and can now kill :)
measwel [1d?\]: and he looked as such a nice guy...
itepilah [1d\]: this is getting aggressive
erf [?\]: people were hoping for some fighting so W delivers
Martin82 [7k\]: "first blood!" ;)
sulimo [3k?\]: aggressive hugging begin!
]
;B[pf]C[notMe [1d\]: this does not make sense to me
Lodurr [1d?\]: now just s10 
Inousha [2k\]: how can you hug agressively?
sekretnyM [4d\]: s12?
Gresil [-\]: white must want to consolidate the top as he's behind in cash. this looks like it could hinder it.
Jake6500 [21k\]: Tackle hug?
Inousha [2k\]: lol
snowman [-\]: any territory black loses will be compensated by ripping of whites corner
lokori [3k\]: i don't understand r13 either but perhaps it's just a move to create aji so that overall result is better for w there
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;W[rh]C[lokori [3k\]: or perhaps white can live :)
chimbba [1k\]: s12 good call
go1d [6d\]: p3 ???
snowman [-\]: r16
chimbba [1k\]: peep
]
;B[pk]C[needs [9k\]: q9
lokori [3k\]: can white connect to the lover right with some move if black does not prevent it?
itepilah [1d\]: how old are the players?
Suvi [2d\]: 20ish
sulimo [3k?\]: between 8 and 80
slownet [6d?\]: they are 40 in total
FinFinal [-\]: white about 22, black about 18
kamistar [16k?\]: is s8 good?
itepilah [1d\]: thx
xDragon [-\]: w really that young?
kamistar [16k?\]: s10*
lokori [3k\]: yup
lokori [3k\]: they are the new wave of finnish go lol
xDragon [-\]: i thought hed won a lot of finnihs championships
kamistar [16k?\]: bit hangover
esidebob [-\]: seems like assu also joined the fancy shirt club for today
lokori [3k\]: snowman has won a great bunch of finnish championships in the past
Suvi [2d\]: is it 19 now or what
Suvi [2d\]: snow?
snowman [-\]: see http://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps/teams/FINhttp://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps/teams/FIN
FinFinal [-\]: lokori: Yes, the championship trophy behind Antti contains mostly his name
slownet [6d?\]: lol
snowman [-\]: sorry, http://pandanet-igs.com/communities/euroteamchamps/teams/FIN
Suvi [2d\]: 19 it is
notMe [1d\]: i think r13 was bad timing
apina [1k\]: and not so many other names
FinFinal [-\]: Black has 42 minutes, white has 53
Suvi [2d\]: ainiin mulla on vielä ilmoittautumatta joukkuekisaan :>
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;W[rl]C[Suvi [2d\]: kun ei löytyny kuvaa sillon kerran kun oisin sen tehny
]
;B[pl]C[lokori [3k\]: whoa 
sulimo [3k?\]: q7 p7 seems dangerous
snowman [-\]: what's again wrong with r16
]
;W[rj]C[Suvi [2d\]: oww
sulimo [3k?\]: hmm
chimbba [1k\]: huh
lokori [3k\]: b allows connection this is most violent
TonyTiger [5d?\]: omg
Suvi [2d\]: is it really a good idea to leave those stones in the center
lokori [3k\]: at least the game gets more interesting now
measwel [1d?\]: game over
Zairex [1k\]: yes! blood!
esidebob [-\]: this feels like a road of mutual suffering
sulimo [3k?\]: this makes o6 look silly
]
;B[on]C[Michi86 [6k\]: blood inc.
hqta1 [8k\]: who is blood?
hqta1 [8k\]: blood=bloodarena
]
;W[pg]C[hqta1 [8k\]: ?
lokori [3k\]: i think this exchangewas slightly better for w 
Martin82 [7k\]: b is going for the centre attack. after all he played for influence with D16
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;B[of]C[itepilah [1d\]: is this game set in Tampere?
FinFinal [-\]: Espoo
Suphyph [9k?\]: now b can invade top and attack center at the same time?
]
;W[pm]C[FinFinal [-\]: The game is also being broadcast live over EuroGoTV3, http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
Suteishi [6d\]: i have no clue whats going on... i would never let my stones be cut here
Suvi [2d\]: soon those center stones will kill evvvvverything :>
Suteishi [6d\]: i doubt it :D
measwel [1d?\]: including themselves
Abominable [11k?\]: if so, then there's magic in go
acdcabbacd [1k\]: w will spli n11 and d15 and KILL BOTH
lokori [3k\]: white got some of the blacks claimed territory and black got some white stones in the center :)
TonyTiger [5d?\]: maybe they were hinted about the kibitz and decided to make the game interesting again :)
Abominable [11k?\]: white probably won't let go of those stones
erf [?\]: B has a troublesome weakness at o10/11
wuztop: if center stones get cut, b can destroy w top territory at ease
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: now white makes b think he is weak and chaces o13 group while killing d16 in process, natural and easy
snowman [-\]: peaceful game would have ended as a loss for either
sulimo [3k?\]: w can get p13 sente agains q9 i think
sulimo [3k?\]: so he can cut 3 stones
lokori [3k\]: white has all sort of nice moves now
Suvi [2d\]: antti prefers a nice game and entertainment to winning :-)
FinFinal [-\]: TonyTiger: Yeah we are relaying the kibitz as synthesized computer voice to the players (not :)
Excalibor [?\]: thus he played double sansan ^^
sulimo [3k?\]: microsoft sam, eh?
FinFinal [-\]: Suvi: Yeah Antti said yesterday that he played too seriously and not entertaining enough :)
Gresil [-\]: ain't nothing wrong with double sansan
kamistar [16k?\]: does that t2s recocnise both finnish and english?
Excalibor [?\]: of course not
Lodurr [1d?\]: p7 p13 o14 o10?
Suvi [2d\]: finfinal, yep :)
sulimo [3k?\]: double nini is strongest opening
Excalibor [?\]: but it makes for an interesting game, as it's not a very common fuseki
Gresil [-\]: pshaw, that's for ninnies
sulimo [3k?\]: haha
chimbba [1k\]: he has to cut, right?
Suvi [2d\]: i'd cut
sulimo [3k?\]: careful... puns are illegal in finland
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;B[ri]C[Gresil [-\]: puns don't kill people
vroom [4k\]: penguins do
lokori [3k\]: oh that was very nice move 
lokori [3k\]: did not see that coming at all :)
chimbba [1k\]: getting complicated
Suteishi [6d\]: FinFinal, im disappointed on Antti if he loses cause of trying to make the games entertaining :P
]
;W[qi]
;B[om]C[Suvi [2d\]: he won't lose
Artevelde [1d\]: how can he win this game?
]
;W[oh]C[Suvi [2d\]: you think it's over after 70 moves?
innna [?\]: artevelde, seen antti play before?
Liisa [2d\]: oh my, I was watching a while Juri's match on sweden and there has happened something!
Artevelde [1d\]: I haven', but this looks like a roller coaster for B
Suvi [2d\]: what goes up comes down
Suteishi [6d\]: Liisa, hes here watching this game
measwel [1d?\]: end of the line
Warfreak2 [4d\]: go antti
Warfreak2 [4d\]: we believe in you!
jnalanko [3k\]: in antti we trust
Michi86 [6k\]: we want blood
itepilah [1d\]: strong is the force with him
Suvi [2d\]: michi, won't be long
TonyTiger [5d?\]: play it again, antti
slim76 [3d\]: there will be blood
snowman [-\]: don't shoot the messenger
kasuaali [30k?\]: It's good Assu cant see the kibitz, everyone cheering for Tien :-)
slownet [6d?\]: go assu!
Vandraren [4k\]: go assu! *O*
Suvi [2d\]: he'll read it afterwards
Kisakazomo [2d\]: Yeah Assu \\o/
Warfreak2 [4d\]: captured stones are only worth 0.97 moku now, due to inflation because antti captures so many
esidebob [-\]: yo kazomo, who's there?
slownet [6d?\]: assu the cutest
koticgood [4k\]: what is assu? ergoproxy is his kgs account right?
sulimo [3k?\]: i want b to win because i like ergo proxy
kamistar [16k?\]: blood and sacred rituals
FinFinal [-\]: Black now has 32 minutes, white 49
sulimo [3k?\]: assu is a nickname
Kisakazomo [2d\]: katsomo täynnä
esidebob [-\]: (GO ANTTI!)
snowman [-\]: kissakatsomo
Kisakazomo [2d\]: ..tai no ainakin meijin on täynnä
Artevelde [1d\]: we're subjected to an overdose of finnnish wit here
Hawkie [2d\]: I wonder if W can manage to create 6 groups here and live with them
Suteishi [6d\]: joko meijin on korkannu bissen?
esidebob [-\]: melkein vois tulla vähän piipahteleen siellä
Kisakazomo [2d\]: heti aamusta. tuu ihmees
esidebob [-\]: eilen väsytti ihan sikana, nyt on tosi pirtee olo taas
kryft [2d\]: Ts. nukuit?
Suvi [2d\]: jänskättääkö kun on japaninmatka pelissä eikä voi ite pelata siitä
esidebob [-\]: oli ns. laatu-unet
Suvi [2d\]: tosin ei huono sijaispelaaja, kun on antti puikoissa :)
]
;B[pn]C[esidebob [-\]: no tavallaan on helpompaa kun ei voi itse vaikuttaa :)
]
;W[qm]C[Suvi [2d\]: :)
esidebob [-\]: olihan mullakin saumani vaikuttaa aiemmin, mut siitä mitään tullu...
smartrobot [9d\]: aha, Antti is one the way to win =)
smartrobot [9d\]: r13 is nice
Suteishi [6d\]: you got bored and went to beat kghin and now you are back? :p
Artevelde [1d\]: Jos olisin tiennyt, mitä te oli
smartrobot [9d\]: =o
itepilah [1d\]: robot you got blood
Artevelde [1d\]: Ymmärrän, koska ei ole murtumisesta
FinFinal [-\]: Artevelde: Google translate? :)
Artevelde [1d\]: :)
slownet [6d?\]: i have spine
FinFinal [-\]: You just said "I understad, because it is not from breaking"
zife [-\]: will it make more sense if I translate it back to english with google translate
]
;B[ni]
;W[nh]
;B[li]
;W[mg]C[Artevelde [1d\]: no those were Dutch expressions
smartrobot [9d\]: this is not a trade..
Gardan [-\]: it's a space station
esidebob [-\]: it's a massacre?
kurii [3k\]: It's a robbery
needs [9k\]: Why ?
Suvi [2d\]: it's antti \\o/
sulimo [3k?\]: w get a lot more
Artevelde [1d\]: "if only I knew what you're talking about, because I don't understand a bit ("break") of it
Michi86 [6k\]: b also gets quite nice stuff to center
Excalibor [?\]: yeah, it wasn't a fair exchange, indeed... black got pwned
itepilah [1d\]: so many points in the corner
apina [1k\]: i should ignore suvi while Antti is playing
Suvi [2d\]: :)
sulimo [3k?\]: suvi is his gf?
Werfeus [4d\]: r6 takes r5 stones, no?
Suvi [2d\]: haha, no
esidebob [-\]: suvi semi-professional cheerleader
Suteishi [6d\]: sulimo, lol :p
Artevelde [1d\]: how can White lose this game?
FinFinal [-\]: Artevelde: They were discussing that esidebob gets to WAGC this year if Antti wins, Assu if he wins
Artevelde [1d\]: ok thx
slownet [6d?\]: who is esidebob:O
zife [-\]: antti can't go?
Suvi [2d\]: not this year
Suvi [2d\]: because of the points system
Suteishi [6d\]: slownet, hes the destroyer of worlds
Suvi [2d\]: every time you go you lose points
esidebob [-\]: it is I, esidebob.
slownet [6d?\]: i'm gonna meat the destroyer of the worlds in japan
snowman [-\]: no, i'm esidebob
slownet [6d?\]: meet
slim76 [3d\]: I am Spartacus
Suteishi [6d\]: he will honte you to death
Lacrimosa [?\]: nice to meet you, Spartacus
snowman [-\]: where is Spartaaa when we need him
Leibnix [6k\]: at n12
]
;B[ji]C[sulimo [3k?\]: in sparta?
haltija [-\]: we need nuclear weapons to solve this
tukan [4k\]: hehe honte to death :D
driftwood [13k?\]: well... throwing stones in a big black hole won´t make two eyes right?
tukan [4k\]: pitty that the difference is so great :(
Excalibor [?\]: k11 looks very good for black's center
esidebob [-\]: top right corner got really out of hand
TaksiMies [4k\]: i believe in santa claus
lokori [3k\]: so does black
slownet [6d?\]: q8 was unfortunate
Martin82 [7k\]: is b really soooo far behind?
tukan [4k\]: white will attack g16?
snowman [-\]: time for se :)
Hernee [3d?\]: who's ahead?
chimbba [1k\]: w is
Leibnix [6k\]: b+8.5
lokori [3k\]: white could play something like G10 i think
ikuy [3d\]: j14 
Hernee [3d?\]: b+? Dang, I kinda was hoping for Antti to win
fatihsulak [?\]: j14 necessary? 
Leibnix [6k\]: :)
apina [1k\]: i think esidebob is already booking flights to Japan
chimbba [1k\]: k13
FinFinal [-\]: Black has 22 minutes left, white 47
Gardan [-\]: b has played one more move so there is chance for antti to find 8.7 point move ..
tukan [4k\]: hmm also nice
FinFinal [-\]: The game is also being broadcast over EuroGoTV3, http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
itepilah [1d\]: k14?
haltija [-\]: o13 could be the losing move
floating [1k\]: what is in japan ?
Suvi [2d\]: wagc
Hiridur [2d\]: L16? -Mokki
sulimo [3k?\]: sushi
floating [1k\]: who goes if b wins ?
Zairex [1k\]: b
Suphyph [9k?\]: b
floating [1k\]: mkay
Hernee [3d?\]: How much time left?
Gardan [-\]: scribe was catch "stealed" food!
Gardan [-\]: stealing ... 
Lodurr [1d?\]:  FinFinal [-\]: Black has 22 minutes left, white 47
FinFinal [-\]: Hehe, black was just flicking through my Japan travel book on the shelf :)
sulimo [3k?\]: you should be able to edit the time under the names
Suvi [2d\]: :)
Suphyph [9k?\]: haha
zife [-\]: motivation
]
;W[qk]C[itepilah [1d\]: r9? isn't it small?
Hernee [3d?\]: R9?
Gardan [-\]: sulimo, send feature request?
Hawkie [2d\]: honte
Werfeus [4d\]: r6 would have taken r5 stones
Hernee [3d?\]: What's this?
Werfeus [4d\]: with b r6 w r9
Abominable [11k?\]: prevents a ko
sixgen [4d\]: b had a tesuji to take the R5 stones
needs [9k\]: ..
Warfreak2 [4d\]: if b push r6 then s9 atari and t8 hane
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: I don't see it, w could use t7 to connect
Hernee [3d?\]: Oh, rite
smartrobot [9d\]: t7..
smartrobot [9d\]: tesuji
Werfeus [4d\]: hm outread me.
]
;B[kd]C[esidebob [-\]: even so, this is a 732 point reverse sente endgame
smartrobot [9d\]: i learn from this
dxxd [1k\]: :D
kryft [2d\]: smartrobot, :) What did you learn?
Suteishi [6d\]: esidebob is precise in counting
Hernee [3d?\]: K15! Figting spirit!
smartrobot [9d\]: t7
itepilah [1d\]: black must play actively
lokori [3k\]: this is difficult for white now
lokori [3k\]: uh oh
TonyTiger [5d?\]: back to square one
Hernee [3d?\]: Fighting spirit demon that eats the world!
]
;W[le]C[Hernee [3d?\]: W is awfully cautious
]
;B[ke]
;W[kf]C[sixgen [4d\]: Hernee, that does not really translate like that :-)
FinFinal [-\]: White J18 connects underneath?
Hernee [3d?\]: `?
eleiteo [-\]: w is beatifully cautious
slownet [6d?\]: b+2.5 go assu
floating [1k\]: maybe he looks foor k15
Suteishi [6d\]: assu looks like hes crying
Suteishi [6d\]: i doubt he is tho
FinFinal [-\]: no :)
TonyTiger [5d?\]: black has bean there
itepilah [1d\]: mr bean?
FinFinal [-\]: Black has 16 minutes, white 42
]
;B[ie]C[Gardan [-\]: :)
]
;W[jf]C[tukan [4k\]: timesuji will decide :)
Hernee [3d?\]: Oh my...
]
;B[ic]C[ikuy [3d\]: j14 
Hernee [3d?\]: sixgen, what's wrong with my translations?
]
;W[if]
;B[hd]
;W[pj]C[Michi86 [6k\]: ?
Hernee [3d?\]: Why this? What's going on????
Excalibor [?\]: now white can reduce black's center from j14
floating [1k\]: goteish! 
]
;B[ok]
;W[oi]C[floating [1k\]: no ;/
]
;B[nj]C[TonyTiger [5d?\]: where is the ko?
measwel [1d?\]: its hidden in the miriads of possibilities
chimbba [1k\]: w huge lead
Inousha [2k\]: time to invade left?
sixgen [4d\]: chim, count again
Hernee [3d?\]: W huge lead? You sure?
chimbba [1k\]: yea
Abominable [11k?\]: "lol I don't count I'm 1k"
Hernee [3d?\]: It was B+2,5 just a while ago
TaksiMies [4k\]: b +30,5 :)
sixgen [4d\]: w has a couple more secure points, but all the potential is black
Abominable [11k?\]: nice use of SE, you gained the internet
TaksiMies [4k\]: Ols friend Randy has spoken
TaksiMies [4k\]: Old
chimbba [1k\]: you really prefer b here? ok
Hernee [3d?\]: You guys confuse me
]
;W[ld]C[Hernee [3d?\]: I just want to know the final result of this game
sixgen [4d\]: that we cannot tell
lokori [3k\]: the score estimate tool does not matter
itepilah [1d\]: half point game
sulimo [3k?\]: b win in 11th by tko
Michi86 [6k\]: b12  or so?
measwel [1d?\]: d8 black? has b12 and f8 as miai. What do you guys think?
]
;B[lc]C[ikuy [3d\]: w+ about 8 points + komi now, but b has more potential, but still seems good for w ^^
sixgen [4d\]: (ref. the endgame in the first match yesterday)
wuztop: sure looks like w ahead by 10
floating [1k\]: there is nothing to gain on the left side+center ?
]
;W[mc]C[Suteishi [6d\]: if you count solid points W ahead, tho W has no real potential to make more points where B does
Excalibor [?\]: i love to watch the shapes flowing, it's very elegant
chimbba [1k\]: left side...maybe, if b gets to moves in a row...
sixgen [4d\]: B12 to finish this now
measwel [1d?\]: thats why I look at d8
]
;B[lb]C[Gardan [-\]: b in hurry to capitalize that potential
Michi86 [6k\]: there is alot nice potential in left side+center for black
measwel [1d?\]: d8 has b12 or f8 as follow up
Michi86 [6k\]: but
Vador [4k?\]: Is there a broadcast of this game ?
Hernee [3d?\]: W would respond to D8 with C11
floating [1k\]: w respond to b12 ?
FinFinal [-\]: The game is broadcast at http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
]
;W[kc]C[floating [1k\]: w's
measwel [1d?\]: perhaps b12 is better yes
]
;B[kb]C[Inousha [2k\]: heh?
Yugure [1k\]: K16 ??
Vador [4k?\]: Thx
mafutrct [-\]: tenuki of course
Abominable [11k?\]: too small?
Inousha [2k\]: l17 was just played for sente right?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: k16 is endgame
Yugure [1k\]: yes
Inousha [2k\]: n18 
Warfreak2 [4d\]: l17 just for probe
esidebob [-\]: L17 probe with good timing
slownet [6d?\]: ah...
Warfreak2 [4d\]: either way w gets some endgame
Yugure [1k\]: L17 yosu miru lol
slownet [6d?\]: then prbably b b12 was better
measwel [1d?\]: c11 now maybe :)
Lodurr [1d?\]: left side! left side!
measwel [1d?\]: surely left side
measwel [1d?\]: but where
chimbba [1k\]: c9
Yugure [1k\]: C11 
Abominable [11k?\]: p3 possible?
Inousha [2k\]: c10 seems nice to me
]
;W[cg]C[Hendrix [1d\]: p3 possible.. but not very good :)
Yugure [1k\]: xDD
chimbba [1k\]: all got it wrong
Yugure [1k\]: yes xD
Abominable [11k?\]: not very good but amazingly good
]
;B[bi]C[Gardan [-\]: w doesn't give b targets of attack
Inousha [2k\]: owned
Excalibor [?\]: mmm
Jake6500 [20k\]: I like the look of c10 more...
Yugure [1k\]: ¨P3 don t work
chimbba [1k\]: guess w thinks this is enough
Inousha [2k\]: thank you jake ^_^ for what its worth :p
Jake6500 [20k\]: Not much really. Lol
sixgen [4d\]: I don't like C13
Inousha [2k\]: haha :)
Vador [4k?\]: Seems like B going for another great moyo as in previous game
Ashebaret [1k\]: seems b 's happy 
]
;W[cj]C[sixgen [4d\]: white already had his nose in at J14, C13 duplicated the effort
Excalibor [?\]: hey, jake! ^^
]
;B[ci]C[Jake6500 [20k\]: White might have a lot of trouble stopping blacks expansion to the centre later through the bottom right.
Jake6500 [20k\]: Hi Excalibor? Lol
]
;W[dj]C[Excalibor [?\]: you guessed right, he played c10 :)
Hernee [3d?\]: FIGHTING SPIRIT!
Excalibor [?\]: ddk powa, way to go! ;-)
itepilah [1d\]: antti is super calm
Inousha [2k\]: lol
sixgen [4d\]: yeah, white is trying to take this into a decicive fight
slownet [6d?\]: f2, kill
]
;B[em]C[polyphydra [7k\]: why r9??
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: I think he is quite succesful at that, but is it good fight for him?
sixgen [4d\]: too bad there are more black stones visible from that area than there are white ones.
Hernee [3d?\]: polyphydra, because R6 would've been mildly annoying
Vador [4k?\]: Djezus, B likes to capture them VERY large !!!
Jake6500 [20k\]: I like b overall position right now.
Hendrix [1d\]: yes.. why r9..?
Hernee [3d?\]: D10 was very risky move, which is why I said "fighting spirit" after W played it
FinFinal [-\]: I think smartrobot said black had tesuji without R9 so black could take R5 stones
Hernee [3d?\]: I'm looking forward to see how W handles this
polyphydra [7k\]: but he could always connect to s10
]
;W[cl]C[Yugure [1k\]: white  will live in =)
slownet [6d?\]: f2 really dangeroux
Jake6500 [20k\]: how?
Jake6500 [20k\]: I dont see a large benefit in f2 right now.
slownet [6d?\]: you are right
Hernee [3d?\]: W propably needs to answer F2
Jake6500 [20k\]: It wont even help b escape.
Abominable [11k?\]: *probably
Vilikki [8k?\]: How's b's time? :o
Hernee [3d?\]: Bwah, stupid word
FinFinal [-\]: Black has 8 minutes, white 33
Abominable [11k?\]: I know, I just learned it : - )
Yugure [1k\]: 8 minutes >.>
lokori [3k\]: most entertaining 
]
;B[dm]C[Kisakazomo [2d\]: e8 killing move!
Abominable [11k?\]: how huuuuuuuuuuuuuge is the byo-yomi / similar ?
Kisakazomo [2d\]: hmmm
Hernee [3d?\]: How's additional time setting system thingie?
Gay [5d\]: mordo
wildaxt [3k\]: did white put himself in a misery why he didnt just reduce with e 8 ? 
FinFinal [-\]: 1x1min byo-yomi
Gay [5d\]: moro
Kisakazomo [2d\]: yo gay
]
;W[fi]C[Abominable [11k?\]: it's like Guo Juan always says about invasions
Gay [5d\]: täällähä o kovat pelit meneillään
Abominable [11k?\]: "Close your eyes and jump in!"
TonyTiger [5d?\]: white connects D10 to J14
]
;B[fr]C[wildaxt [3k\]: xD
Hernee [3d?\]: F11 seems a bit soft...
Kisakazomo [2d\]: Tapa se Assu!
Jake6500 [20k\]: H9 for black, ok or?
Kisakazomo [2d\]: Tapa!
slownet [6d?\]: die
esidebob [-\]: impossible to kill, but good endgame
Yugure [1k\]: why dies?
Yugure [1k\]: white E2 and after????
slownet [6d?\]: it was more like
slownet [6d?\]: die!!!!
mafutrct [-\]: ...c1
Martin82 [7k\]: e2 d4
Hernee [3d?\]: It dies? THis can't be
Kisakazomo [2d\]: eside come here! we have good beer :)
Yugure [1k\]: C1 ????
]
;W[er]C[Jake6500 [20k\]: Now I think I get the benefit of that move.
a55666666 [3k\]:  are they so hot  ?
esidebob [-\]: :) i dare not move
Hendrix [1d\]: b2?
coolzr [11k\]: d13 needed?
]
;B[fn]C[Jake6500 [20k\]: White wont die I dont think but black takes the corner?
Kisakazomo [2d\]: YliGon puheenjohtaja vaatii!
]
;W[fo]C[LastAngel [?\]: which account does savolainen has here on kgs?
Kisakazomo [2d\]: Liity seuraamme
]
;B[eh]C[mafutrct [-\]: c2 i meant sry xD
Kisakazomo [2d\]: W is IN THE BAG
FinFinal [-\]: Arto äänessä? :)
Kisakazomo [2d\]: ofcoorse
nanoc [6d?\]: g9?
Konsta [?\]: Meijin
Jake6500 [20k\]: Will black play c2?
Kisakazomo [2d\]: Indeed. Tulkaa kaikki juomaan herkullistsa Karjalaa!
Kisakazomo [2d\]: ja kahvia :)
Gay [5d\]: f8
Mimosa [6k\]: aika aikaista kaljotteluun
esidebob [-\]: mä juon vaan muumilimunaatia
vroom [4k\]: the winner of this game is the new world champion?
Liisa [2d\]: yes
Abominable [11k?\]: *Finnish
Gay [5d\]: yeah
apina [1k\]: mimosa, kaljottelu ei katso aikaa
Gay [5d\]: world champion
Mimosa [6k\]: :D niimpä nii
Kisakazomo [2d\]: Tuu blandaa muumilimusi karjalalla
joo [14k\]: :O
vroom [4k\]: finnish world champion
FinFinal [-\]: Master of the Universe
vroom [4k\]: :)
Abominable [11k?\]: wat
Gay [5d\]: finnish world?
Hernee [3d?\]: World champion, of course.
Mimosa [6k\]: mie oon töissä nii täällä kaiheesti kaljaa saa juoda :( vain pihatalkoissa
slim76 [3d\]: Mr. Finland
Vandraren [4k\]: doesn't matter wether finnish or world champion, both the same ;)
Warfreak2 [4d\]: final finn-tasy
Hernee [3d?\]: I really really really really want to see w getting away with this
sixgen [4d\]: w can now see only one friendly group, time to pull out the eye making tesujis
Gay [5d\]: f8 looks good now
Jake6500 [20k\]: lol final finn tasy, lol
Hendrix [1d\]: the first finnish to finish the other finnish first will be finnish
Hernee [3d?\]: I thought D10 was super risky, and I still think it was, and I still see no way for W to squeeze a good result out of this
Abominable [11k?\]: Jimmy that made no sense!
Hendrix [1d\]: I know :)
Capital [?\]: no it made sense
Capital [?\]: if you add "champion" to the end
]
;W[gk]C[Hendrix [1d\]: yep
Abominable [11k?\]: but he did not!
esidebob [-\]: D10 seems like "do or die" to me
Hawkie [2d\]: Yeah, it's not like we are stripping nationality from the losing finalist
Hernee [3d?\]: Finnish him!
Abominable [11k?\]: noooooooooooooooooooooooo
Warfreak2 [4d\]: flawless victory
Vador [4k?\]: Focus please
Lodurr [1d?\]: hm, I was thinking about h9 
LovroKlc [-\]: I think W can win this...
vroom [4k\]: the loser must leave finnland naked
apina [1k\]: esidebob, that group would be for nice veivi
joo [14k\]: Are you sure they're both Finnish nationals
esidebob [-\]: it's not easy at all to capture white here
Abominable [11k?\]: *Finland
joo [14k\]: They might not be by some weird circumstance.
Gay [5d\]: moro pessi
sixgen [4d\]: joo, yes, we are
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: seems almost impossible to capture white here, but what do I know
Pessi [3d\]: moro
joo [14k\]: "we"?
Pessi [3d\]: :D
FinFinal [-\]: joo: Antti lost his nationality already last year when he lost to Vesa in the finals
joo [14k\]: lol
Gay [5d\]: :D
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: kato Pessi, moi
Gay [5d\]: ihan kiva katella tätä pelii duunis
Hernee [3d?\]: Antti lost to Vesa?
Abominable [11k?\]: so he has to fight hard to get it back
AmerBeton [6k\]: white is gonna win
Gay [5d\]: saa 20e tunti
Pessi [3d\]: moi vaa sulleki :p
Hendrix [1d\]: can w do anything against the b5 group?
Suteishi [6d\]: pessikin heräs
Pessi [3d\]: joo, :DDDD
Hernee [3d?\]: When? What?
Pessi [3d\]: ..... :DDD
Yugure [1k\]: I say" W ll die" =)
apina [1k\]: Hernee, last year
Jake6500 [20k\]: G7, H6, work inward. I think its possible but might take too many moves?
FinFinal [-\]: Hernee: Last year's finals Vesa won 2-1 the same championship
joo [14k\]: /me is confused.
AmerBeton [6k\]: not the same spirit
Hernee [3d?\]: Where's Vesa now?
Abominable [11k?\]: observing the game
zife [-\]: kibitzing
Pessi [3d\]: kai ny herää ku herätetää
Suteishi [6d\]: :D
Hernee [3d?\]: Where's your Vesa now?
Abominable [11k?\]: lol...
FinFinal [-\]: Hernee: sleeping, it seems, as snowman is shown in grey
Gardan [-\]: on left -->
]
;B[fh]
;W[gi]C[Hernee [3d?\]: That's right :/
Yugure [1k\]: left <----
coolzr [11k\]: VORUJ
lokori [3k\]: still there, has not left
Gardan [-\]: same diffrence
Capital [?\]: black must be pretty close to running out of time now
Abominable [11k?\]: has not left right
FinFinal [-\]: Gardan: Too much kahvi at kisakatsomo? ;)
Gardan [-\]: nope .. too much blood in coffee circulation
Hawkie [2d\]: Gardan: That's wrong, that's right
FinFinal [-\]: Black has 3 minutes, white 27
Jake6500 [20k\]: Is H 12 ok for black?
Hendrix [1d\]: w g7 next?
AmerBeton [6k\]: w's gonna win
Excalibor [?\]: and then 1 minute byo-yomi?
]
;B[fk]C[FinFinal [-\]: yes
Excalibor [?\]: ok. thx :)
Gay [5d\]: black losing
AmerBeton [6k\]: f8
Gay [5d\]: unless he kill something
Abominable [11k?\]: this might sound silly, but I wish white uses most of his time now
Abominable [11k?\]: it's quite a delicate moment
Jake6500 [20k\]: Im still thinking black will win.
vroom [4k\]: then it must be true
AmerBeton [6k\]: w has the spirit
Gay [5d\]: i believe 20k
Hernee [3d?\]: I'm thinking either this game is never finished, or either player will win, or it will be a tie
Abominable [11k?\]: 20k has the spirit
Gardan [-\]: wondering how much w can sacrifice of that group .. G7 would surely connect some stones ..
Yugure [1k\]: oh nice tsuke
vroom [4k\]: thanks
Hernee [3d?\]: Horrible tsuke. Now w will win
Gay [5d\]: just f8?
Yugure [1k\]: xDDDD
Zairex [1k\]: f10
Yugure [1k\]: no nice tsuke
lokori [3k\]: good tsuke
Hernee [3d?\]: Totally awful
Abominable [11k?\]: tsuke.
Jake6500 [20k\]: I think black going to g7 could be good.
Vador [4k?\]: G7 doesn't accomplish anything for B...
Jake6500 [20k\]: Just to stop white expanding.
Liisa [2d\]: somehow this tsuke reminds me the first game.
Gardan [-\]: my comment of G7 was w move 
Jake6500 [20k\]: I know.
Suteishi [6d\]: can anyone give the euro-go-tv link?
]
;W[fj]C[joo [14k\]: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/eurogotv3s-show
Vilikki [8k?\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV3
Suteishi [6d\]: thankies
Hernee [3d?\]: See? Now B lost
Gay [5d\]: dont think w will sacrifice anything
]
;B[fl]C[Hernee [3d?\]: B lost the game, and so did YOU!
Jake6500 [20k\]: b e10. Stops white? Or useless lke g7?
MikGo [2d?\]: i lost
Jake6500 [20k\]: no, it'd be useless...
sixgen [4d\]: b wants to get C2 un sente too
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: now, w resque private o6
Vador [4k?\]: What do they eat ?
Abominable [11k?\]: b2 easier than c2?
Vador [4k?\]: Finnish peanuts ?
Jake6500 [20k\]: rescue o6? seriously? how?
joo [14k\]: The stones, accidentally
joo [14k\]: I'd love to see that happen
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: no, not seriously
klausP [3d\]: Whites moves say: "you can never beat me, if I just play save."
Koukkaaja [3d\]: they're having stones for munchies
]
;W[hj]C[Jake6500 [20k\]: Didnt think so.
lokori [3k\]: nice
Abominable [11k?\]: handmade ponnuki
Hawkie [2d\]: Diamond in the rough
lokori [3k\]: rahat vai kolmipyörä
Gardan [-\]: not flawless 
Jake6500 [20k\]: B H8?
Hernee [3d?\]: They're so much healthier than synthetic ones
esidebob [-\]: the artificial ponnuki of death
FinFinal [-\]: Perhaps Antti is already playing to have something write about in his blog :)
lokori [3k\]: ponnuki of connection
chimbba [1k\]: worth 30 points
slownet [6d?\]: b should j9
a55666666 [3k\]: Can you read his mind?  what is main problem ? 
a55666666 [3k\]: player or game 
FinFinal [-\]: Black has 1 minute left, white 23
Jake6500 [20k\]: wow, j9 is good.
Gardan [-\]: basically connected already .. do b didn't capitalize much of center territory
Gardan [-\]: do=so
slownet [6d?\]: b get sente for t3
Jake6500 [20k\]: Yea...
sixgen [4d\]: that ponnuki has an extra blemish at F11, also it does not have the seed inside. but agreed, still worth 30 :-)
wildaxt [3k\]: w is connected :/ 
]
;B[hm]C[Jake6500 [20k\]: Why didnt black try to occupy more of the center?
lokori [3k\]: black tried
klausP [3d\]: did domeone count?
Gardan [-\]: SE
klausP [3d\]: w+ komi is my gues
Gay [5d\]: w + 10
joo [14k\]: Good lord, is he picking his nose?
Rib [4d\]: w+15 or so
Jake6500 [20k\]: Dam, I guessed H8. Lol
]
;W[gg]C[klausP [3d\]: so much, Rib?
Yugure [1k\]: oh W+R lol
FinFinal [-\]: Black is entering byo-yomi
Gay [5d\]: w can resign
Hernee [3d?\]: W can resign? But everything worked out like W wanted to :o
Zairex [1k\]: seki
]
;B[cr]C[Jake6500 [20k\]: I still think black will win because of the bottom right leading into the center. Thats a huge amount of territory practically given to black.
Gay [5d\]: d2 
Abominable [11k?\]: top right isn't exactly tiny either : )
klausP [3d\]: gay, of course w can resign, but why should he? w is winnen
Gay [5d\]: he has won
zife [-\]: if he wants that assu goes to japan
Jake6500 [20k\]: But it has more played stones in it than bottom right.
Hernee [3d?\]: jake, w got a lot elsewhere
coolzr [11k\]: Z҉A҉L҉G҉O̚̕̚
Jake6500 [20k\]: Yea, true.
Jake6500 [20k\]: But I think the bottom left can do damage to white.
]
;W[fs]C[Yugure [1k\]: what is black s time?
findhowHK [3d\]: white leading
Jake6500 [20k\]: And if black plays out the top left well and connects and sets up some territory at the top I think he might just get over the line.
FinFinal [-\]: byo-yomi
measwel [1d?\]: I was away a bit. Now I see no points for B either on left side or in center.
Yugure [1k\]: what is the byo yomi?
Suvi [2d\]: 1x1min japanese
Yugure [1k\]: ok
FinFinal [-\]: there's 1 period so basically 1 minute per move
FinFinal [-\]: and if assu doesn't play in 12 secs, he loses
]
;B[hs]C[Jake6500 [20k\]: if black plays L 10 at some point it will help further expand territory in the center.
]
;W[dr]C[Hernee [3d?\]: KGS really needs time stamping
Michi86 [6k\]: how much doesn Antti have time left?
FinFinal [-\]: 20 minutes
Michi86 [6k\]: thanks
Excalibor [?\]: it would be useful to have timestamps
nanoc [6d?\]: W+8,5
Excalibor [?\]: but it would also add to the noise in kibitz :)
]
;B[cs]
;W[dp]C[measwel [1d?\]: b lost?
MikGo [2d?\]: juontaja, viive?
Suvi [2d\]: eiku valvoja
]
;B[bm]C[MikGo [2d?\]: ei ku nii
Suvi [2d\]: logo lehmä
FinFinal [-\]: joku 5 sekkaa
measwel [1d?\]: t3
Prodigious [4d\]: tjtjtj
FinFinal [-\]: EuroGoTV:llä
Hernee [3d?\]: L10?
fatihsulak [?\]: f17 
delic: who cares :)
Jake6500 [20k\]: sorry, L 12
]
;W[jj]C[Jake6500 [20k\]: Although that should be left till later. Wouldnt do much.
sixgen [4d\]: isn't J11 dangerous?
measwel [1d?\]: hmmm
]
;B[kj]
;W[kk]C[Yugure [1k\]: good yose
tukan [4k\]: something like q17 fwould work for yose?
Koukkaaja [3d\]: J11 would have lead to an abrupt end
]
;B[ki]
;W[jk]C[Suvi [2d\]: pff
Jake6500 [20k\]: assuming M9
lokori [3k\]: hah this is greate
]
;B[lk]C[lokori [3k\]: w rules
Hernee [3d?\]: This is a crate
FinFinal [-\]: White also has still 18 minutes for yose
measwel [1d?\]: crate?
Michi86 [6k\]: you know, i box
FinFinal [-\]: measwel: he meant grate
Michi86 [6k\]: a*
Vador [4k?\]: W about 60 in the E
Jake6500 [20k\]: W should stop B in top left corner? Or am I wrong.
Vador [4k?\]: B also about 60 in S
]
;W[ff]C[Hernee [3d?\]: This has to hurt
Jake6500 [20k\]: B e 13?
]
;B[gh]C[Vador [4k?\]: Great move, E13 !
]
;W[hh]C[Suvi [2d\]: come on
haltija [-\]: b9 connects
bdares [1d\]: F15 followed by A8.
]
;B[ii]C[TomiP [1k\]: who's playing? no clue how to see it with android...
sekretnyM [4d\]: b9 doesnt connect
Jake6500 [20k\]: e 13 then either e or d 14
FinFinal [-\]: Antti white, Assu black
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;W[hi]C[TomiP [1k\]: k, ty
Jake6500 [20k\]: double connection point as result?
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;B[fe]C[haltija [-\]: or a8, whatever, meant that the stones can be saved
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;W[ef]C[coolzr [11k\]: wtf
Yugure [1k\]: wtf?
Jake6500 [20k\]: blocking the connection...
Excalibor [?\]: cool
sekretnyM [4d\]: anyway f17 i sente is nice
chimbba [1k\]: it's just sente
Jake6500 [20k\]: those stones r probably dead now?
semiclassy [1d\]: Tien stong
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;B[bk]C[Suvi [2d\]: they connect down.
Lodurr [1d?\]: it's for f17 
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;W[bj]C[Lodurr [1d?\]: probably
Jake6500 [20k\]: They might be alive still actually. But dangerous position.
kasuaali [30k?\]: damn. ja just ku en kattonu.
Hernee [3d?\]: chimbba, that's what it seems to me
Goverplay [2k\]: why did he resign
Goverplay [2k\]: ?
Gardan [-\]: count and see how much b is behind
Hernee [3d?\]: B doesn't seem to be behind at all, that's kinda the problem
Goverplay [2k\]: ?
Prodigious [4d\]: i don't know how you're counting, then :p
FinFinal [-\]: It seemed white was controlling the endgame after black went to byo-yomi, too
chimbba [1k\]: W+10 or so, no way to catch up
kasuaali [30k?\]: and this means eside goes abroad, right?
Suvi [2d\]: yes
Hernee [3d?\]: esidebob? Why?
Gardan [-\]: and w has end games like L8, K16 waiting .. 
Suvi [2d\]: hernee, pistesysteemin takia
Suvi [2d\]: http://www.gowrite.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=86 , http://www.gowrite.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=86&start=12
Suvi [2d\]: tossa pistesysteemi ja pistetilanne
Hernee [3d?\]: Miksei Assu ja Tenba?
FinFinal [-\]: mikolla eniten pisteitä koossa
Suvi [2d\]: lue se pistesysteem ija katso pistetilanne :)
Suvi [2d\]: se selittää miksei
Suvi [2d\]: assu olis lähteny jos olis voittanu, kun se olis ekaa kertaa mestari
kasuaali [30k?\]: mikolla isoin ko
Suvi [2d\]: ja sellainen tyyppi lähtee aina, jos ei oo käyny ennen
Suvi [2d\]: mutta kun ei tullu uutta mestaria niin mennään pistetilanteen mukaan
Hernee [3d?\]: Hmm
Hernee [3d?\]: Nois pisteissä ei tunnu olevan mitää järkeä
Hernee [3d?\]: Miten toiseks SM:ssä tullu voi saada vähempi pisteitä ku joku joka ei SM:ssä finaalii päässy ollenkaa?
Gardan [-\]: siinä on historiaa mukana eli 
Gardan [-\]: tänä vuonna kyllä kakkonen saa enemmän kuin sarjassa 3-6 sijoittuneet
floating [1k\]: nöööööy
kurii [3k\]: How much time left?
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;AB[ei][ej]SQ[ei][ej]C[Trumelunki [4d\]: this makes moves around g18 or f17 more valuable
TonyTiger [5d?\]: ...
Hernee [3d?\]: What?
smartrobot [9d\]: ???
erf [?\]: resign
Jake6500 [20k\]: a10 and a8 look important right about now.
hqta1 [8k\]: ??
FinFinal [-\]: Black resigns
Zairex [1k\]: :D
LovroKlc [-\]: wha?
chimbba [1k\]: what
TonyTiger [5d?\]: nice :)
MikGo [2d?\]: :D
Yugure [1k\]: chat happens?
TonyTiger [5d?\]: congrats antti
Suvi [2d\]: Antti \\o/
Suvi [2d\]: Onnea!
Lodurr [1d?\]: resigned
erf [?\]: so Antti is the champion
Excalibor [?\]: congras!!!!
MikGo [2d?\]: Antti! \\o/
smartrobot [9d\]: over?
hqta1 [8k\]: Antti
Zairex [1k\]: onnea tien !
sixgen [4d\]: congrats, esidebob!
Suvi [2d\]: onnea myös esidebobille :)
erf [?\]: b made two moves in a row, resigned
ikuy [3d\]: congrats
Yugure [1k\]: W resigned?
Henull [14k\]: Onittelut :)
smartrobot [9d\]: good job
sixgen [4d\]: well done, Tien
esidebob [-\]: \\o/
Yugure [1k\]: why is W cutted?
esidebob [-\]: well done antti
seppos [1d\]: hyvä Antti!
delic: onnea esidebob :-)
Suvi [2d\]: yugure, black resigned.
erf [?\]: congrats Antti
Capital [?\]: b played 2 moves
Capital [?\]: apparently
Yugure [1k\]: \\o/
Hernee [3d?\]: And thus, lost
erf [?\]: e10 and e11 were two moves in a row, b resigned with them :)
Yugure [1k\]: so black resigned
Trumelunki [4d\]: Congratulations to Antti
findhowHK [3d\]: funny
chimbba [1k\]: good way to resign :)
Yugure [1k\]: yes lol
fgfgbfbf: is white so much ahead in points?
mooooo [5k\]: antti gonna be called 7dan egf soon
fgfgbfbf: bE12 and bG16 both live?
zife [-\]: it's a traditional way to resign actually
LovroKlc [-\]: Antti will probably lose EGD rating cus of this match
Suvi [2d\]: -4 points
Suvi [2d\]: about
Kisakazomo [2d\]: Thanks for the show!
Jake6500 [20k\]: E 26 yes, e 12 unsure.
VIH [3d\]: At least 10 points
Suvi [2d\]: kiitos molemmille pelaajille, oli jänskää
zife [-\]: either that or putting the stones you have captured on board
Kisakazomo [2d\]: Onnee Antti! Ja hyvä vääntö Assu!
Jake6500 [20k\]: But I think he should have continued a little anyway.
Suvi [2d\]: ny pitäs olla ääntä kamerassa
Suvi [2d\]: niin kuulis jälkipelit
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: onnea Tienille, sekä esidebobille japanin matkasta
erf [?\]: thanks for the game relay too
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: hyvät väännöt oli
Kisakazomo [2d\]: Rokkenroll Kunkku, kamat reppuun ja menoks!
FinFinal [-\]: erf: thanks :)
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: kiitokset assullekki hyvistä peleistä
Suvi [2d\]: kiitti kirjauksista ja kuvasta, nyt ääntä siihen :)
Suvi [2d\]: jooh assu pisti hyvin kampoihin, tuli jännät pelit
FinFinal [-\]: en tiedä kuuluuko äänet
Suvi [2d\]: ei ainakaan nyt
jnalanko [3k\]: nyt kuuluu
FinFinal [-\]: entäs nyt?
chimbba [1k\]: joo
Wraith [2d\]: jee
Warfreak2 [4d\]: super antti
Lodurr [1d?\]: sad I don't know finnish =(
measwel [1d?\]: what happens?
Suvi [2d\]: mulle ei kuulu :(
measwel [1d?\]: finished?
Mimosa [6k\]: nii siin o
Gardan [-\]: b played E10+E11
FinFinal [-\]: someone hearing the sound?
Hernee [3d?\]: I don't see why B resigned
fgfgbfbf: I hear the sound
Hernee [3d?\]: I heard spooky voice
chimbba [1k\]: sound all right
joo [14k\]: woah. black resigned?
Kisakazomo [2d\]: we hear some bits
Hernee [3d?\]: So I stopped watching that live stream
jnalanko [3k\]: i hear it perfectly
innna [?\]: hyvin kuuluu
Hernee [3d?\]: Anyway, why did B resign?
chimbba [1k\]: way behind
FinFinal [-\]: white too much ahead
Hernee [3d?\]: SE says B was ahead
FinFinal [-\]: and white has more time to think, so not much chance to catch up
fgfgbfbf: note that wC10 is not dead
FinFinal [-\]: Hernee: SE is just so much stronger that it counts points differently
measwel [1d?\]: whats up with e10 / e11 ?
fgfgbfbf: white connects in the game in wE10, there's no black stone
chimbba [1k\]: you are 3d, should no SE is not very trustworthy
Suvi [2d\]: ah, kgs blokkas äänet, suljin molemmat ni nyt kuuluu
Suvi [2d\]: :)
klausP [3d\]: oh, er hat sich c10 fangen lassen???
Hernee [3d?\]: chimbba, dunno, if you have better ideas as to how to figure out the score, please share
FinFinal [-\]: Hernee: count yourself? :)
esidebob [-\]: what was happening top left was way too painful for b
Wraith [2d\]: FinFinal, you should circle both E11 and E10 :)
zife [-\]: hernee, e10 and e11 were not actually played in the actual game which is why using SE is a terrible idea
chimbba [1k\]: hernee are you saying b resigned when he was in the lead?-)
Wraith [2d\]: No, the circle tool instead ;)
FinFinal [-\]: Wraith: no, I think this is grate
kasuaali [30k?\]: So, b resigned, eh?
FinFinal [-\]: jeh
kamistar [16k?\]: \\o(
zife [-\]: ehkä se kantsis siirtää takas siihen vikaan siirtoon ennen luovutusta ni ei tuu näitä kysymyksii niin paljoa
chimbba [1k\]: joo
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