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GM[1]
PC[OGS: http://online-go.com/game/review/2518]
BR[5d]
WR[6d]
CP[online-go.com]
RE[?]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[japanese]
C[Game chats will be available in SGF downloads once the game has finished.
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Gardan: perustuu siihen että laitetaan kaikkeen mihin saa helposti
Halibut: B seems ahead on pts :)
Ootakamoku: b has no secured points yet, only potential, w has secure points
Eilinen: Onko se Juri kuin paljon myöhässä
suomigo: white has also yet to show up
Gardan: jaa-a .. 45min sitten valitteli selkäänsä mut muuta infoa ei oo ainakaan julkisesti
Halibut: wow, W ahead without showing up
Gardan: haven't made any mistakes
djeinstine: 9d pro.

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Halibut: O.o

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djeinstine: P1 new research.

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djeinstine: Shin-fuseki 5-1 opening.

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Ootakamoku: o11 now :)

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Ootakamoku: oh, even more severe

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djeinstine: Hmm I like black here.

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Halibut: whoa n3 looks deep

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Ootakamoku: b moyo wall just came under attack :P

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djeinstine: Hmm I feel like the proverb "dont go fishing when your house is on fire" comes into play here.

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Halibut: fishing *shiver*

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Ootakamoku: who is fishing?

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djeinstine: Ootakamoku: maybe because I'm weak but I felt m17 was a tenuki when N3 invasion could have been attacked  or J4 wall put to good use.
Ootakamoku: reasonable argument, but where is the profit from that attack?
Ootakamoku: as surely you cant expect to kill w

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djeinstine: No but left side is really open.

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Ootakamoku: so attack in a way to prepare fo rsomething like b c8?

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djeinstine: Yea something along those lines.

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Ootakamoku: ya, I dont see why not

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Ootakamoku: this looks bad for b..
Ootakamoku: getting pushed around saving cutting stones, that are losing their value in the process

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Ootakamoku: w locally alive if he wants to
Halibut: might be wary that B gives up m9 and after m11, replies L4 ?
Ootakamoku: but m10 stones give life to w, so doesnt help b

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Ootakamoku: something like this?. From move 0: Q16 D4 Q3 R5 D16 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R15 R16 P13 O13 R12 O16 N16 R11 P16 Q15 P12 O15 O11 N17 P9 P4 P5 O5 P6 O6 P7 R4 S5 F3 C6 J4 N3 O3 N4 O4 K5 K4 M5 M17 D2 O7 O8 N8 N9 M9 M8 N7 M7 Q8 P8 N10 O9 S4 P11 J5 K6 H7 L9 M10 L10 L11 K11 L8 L7 K8 M11 N11 L12 N12 L4 

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Ootakamoku: stayin connected is nice in principle, but w shahe looks.. difficult to fix
Ootakamoku: maybe just k10

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Pempu: onko kisakatsomossa väkeä?
Pempu: Sieltä on jatko kallio-goohon tänään.
djeinstine: Were M7 stones really that important?
Halibut: top side would concern me now if I was W
Gardan: now they are alive fully so no attack .. 

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djeinstine: I feel like W should have gotten K12 instead.

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Pempu: Reino
Ootakamoku: I still suspect the board going blank etc, has to do with switching browser window, on android.

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Pempu: it has been doing that here?

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Ootakamoku: did to me right before I asked who the scribe was
Ootakamoku: odd joseki choice for b
Pempu: ok Anyone else noticing board glitches?

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Gardan: yeah .. it did blank

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Ootakamoku: and also, its not observer side, since I reloaded a page to no avail

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jokkebk: did they just switch to bonus time?
Pempu: ok thanks for the info
Ootakamoku: jokkebk, its joseki, hence the fast play

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jokkebk: hmm, white: tons of points on right, black: tons of points on top

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Ootakamoku: b looks overconcentrated to me
jokkebk: well, white isn't very light either

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jokkebk: somehow I feel it's still quite even
jokkebk: dubbelhane?
jokkebk: nah
Ootakamoku: jokkebk, Im not refering overconcentration for shape, but overconcentration that b gained thick outside, but its too close to his other outside positions
jokkebk: yes I thought you meant that

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jokkebk: but on the other hand black top seems bigger yet than white side, and other areas quite closely even out still
Halibut: B 40+ at the top but not so much elsewhere
Gardan: nice shape

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Ootakamoku: h14.. why?
Ootakamoku: w f12
Ootakamoku: or just tenuki possible too I think
jokkebk: free points before living?
suomigo: Oota it switched back to the beginning for the scribe as well so a different issue compared to yesterday
Gardan: h14 is points and removes quite a lot aji 
Ten: Wait, is this really enough for white?
jokkebk: C9 very big though, the biggest middle game point?
Ootakamoku: w will get good yose attacking j4?
Ten: I count close to no territory there, and black leading anyway

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Ootakamoku: jokkebk, c9 is quite small unless it attacks something or defend from attack

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Ten: This'd better work out, then
jokkebk: what is the time situation?
Ten: Vesa likely has more
jokkebk: well let's paraphrase:

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jokkebk: how much more time Vesa currently has than Namii?
Ootakamoku: well, they have played barely over an hour, so even if all the time was used by namii, which it hasnt, he would still have time left

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Gardan: for sure .. juri was late and vesa is fast 

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suomigo: Vesa has around 40 minutes more

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Ootakamoku: vesa 75min, white 35min?

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Ten: Black seems confident, here

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Ootakamoku: w could have taken t4 double sente yose before g11?
Ten: The latest sequence just opened up h2, though

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Ten: Yeah, it was white's anytime

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Ten: Ok, this could be white's game after all

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Ootakamoku: g1?
Ten: That's what it'll have to be
Ten: Unfortunate case for black, he might not even be able to live

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Pempu: Vesa is shaking his head

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Gardan: all in
jokkebk: ko for victory
Ootakamoku: not sure this is even ko
Ootakamoku: h1 doesnt make local eyes
jokkebk: classic Vesa-Juri game after all

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jokkebk: two years ago Namii lost in a surprise fight for life, if I recall correctly

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jokkebk: looks like they are following your lead?

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Ten: Looks like resignation time
Ootakamoku: b could still try to connect up to d12?
Ten: No matter, the points aren't enough anymore
Ootakamoku: right

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Gardan: no seki then 

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Ootakamoku: well, w played like this so that he can still offer seki to b
Ten: White might as well take h9 now and be done with it
Gardan: thats 2 moves for 20pts
Ootakamoku: if w gives seki, b has no eye

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Ten: Well okay, killing everything is ocol too
Ten: *cool

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Ootakamoku: ah, right

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Ootakamoku: w trying to kill it outright
jokkebk: this game really got out of hand

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Ootakamoku: if b connects in gote, he cant live locally
jokkebk: too bad, I was kinda rooting for Vesa :)
Ootakamoku: ermm.. let me rephrase that, fi b connects in gote, he dies
Ten: NGA-oppilaille tiedoksi että ajattelin käydä tätäkin peliä läpi luennolla joka alkaa yhdeltä
Ten: </maksettu mainos>

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Ootakamoku: great :)
Gardan: jiihaaa </maksettu selkääntaputus>

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Kehveli: lähetätkö sen myöhemmin oppilaille sähköpostilla?

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Ootakamoku: b7 kills unless Im missing something obvious

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Gardan: kehveli, kaikki luennot tulee .. ja webiin myös

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Kehveli: jees

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Ten: Itse asiassa spämmimailia ei lähetetä enää aina marraskuusta alkaen
Ten: Mutta kaikki voi tosiaan ladata /academy-sivulta

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Gardan: nyt ois gote seki tarjolla 
Ootakamoku: aika tilapäinen semmonen :P
suomigo: musta luovuttaa
Gardan: oijoi 
Pempu: White wins by resignation
Gardan: tarviis siis mennä auttamaan ruuan kanssa et ehtii luennolle 
jokkebk: kummalle gote?
jokkebk: ja onko
jokkebk: missä mustan J4 ryhmän silmät jos musta pelaa J1?
jokkebk: juu
quest: oliks nyt tulos siis W+R
jokkebk: juu

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Ten: Could've done like this. From move 0: Q16 D4 Q3 R5 D16 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R15 R16 P13 O13 R12 O16 N16 R11 P16 Q15 P12 O15 O11 N17 P9 P4 P5 O5 P6 O6 P7 R4 S5 F3 C6 J4 N3 O3 N4 O4 K5 K4 M5 M17 D2 O7 O8 N8 N9 M9 M8 N7 M7 Q8 P8 N10 O9 S4 P11 J5 K6 H7 L9 M10 L10 L11 K11 L8 K8 M12 L12 M11 L7 K12 F17 H17 C14 F16 G16 G17 C16 C17 E16 F15 D17 D15 E15 E14 E17 D14 F14 G15 C15 D12 C12 C13 B13 D13 C18 B17 B18 B12 A14 F18 E18 E19 D18 C11 J12 L13 J11 J13 H13 J14 H15 H16 G14 G16 C9 H14 G12 F12 H3 E4 E3 E2 D3 F4 K2 L2 L3 J2 M2 G2 G11 T5 T6 T4 S7 D5 C5 D1 C1 E1 C2 D9 D8 B9 C8 S16 H2 K3 G1 F2 H4 K1 G5 F6 G6 G7 F5 E5 E6 F7 D6 H5 G4 H6 H1 F10 F11 E10 E11 C10 E9 D10 F8 

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Ootakamoku: dies like this, need another resistance. From move 0: Q16 D4 Q3 R5 D16 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R15 R16 P13 O13 R12 O16 N16 R11 P16 Q15 P12 O15 O11 N17 P9 P4 P5 O5 P6 O6 P7 R4 S5 F3 C6 J4 N3 O3 N4 O4 K5 K4 M5 M17 D2 O7 O8 N8 N9 M9 M8 N7 M7 Q8 P8 N10 O9 S4 P11 J5 K6 H7 L9 M10 L10 L11 K11 L8 K8 M12 L12 M11 L7 K12 F17 H17 C14 F16 G16 G17 C16 C17 E16 F15 D17 D15 E15 E14 E17 D14 F14 G15 C15 D12 C12 C13 B13 D13 C18 B17 B18 B12 A14 F18 E18 E19 D18 C11 J12 L13 J11 J13 H13 J14 H15 H16 G14 G16 C9 H14 G12 F12 H3 E4 E3 E2 D3 F4 K2 L2 L3 J2 M2 G2 G11 T5 T6 T4 S7 D5 C5 D1 C1 E1 C2 D9 D8 B9 C8 S16 H2 K3 G1 F2 H4 K1 G5 F6 F5 E5 G6 G7 E6 F7 D6 H1 G4 F1 G3 

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