(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[7.00] GN[Takapotku 2006 Viktor Boganov vs. Mika Urtela 1. pöytä 2. kierros ]PW[Viktor Boganov]PB[Mika Urtela]WR[6d]BR[2d]DT[2006-02-11]EV[Takapotku 2006]RO[2. kierros]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]AN[hpr]RE[B+10.00] ;B[dp]CR[dp] ;W[pd]CR[pd] ;B[dc]CR[dc] ;W[pq]CR[pq] ;B[po]CR[po] ;W[qm]CR[qm]C[kari [?\]: onko live? dxxd [18k\]: wow....onko tämä kuuluisaa takapotkua :) ? kari [?\]: värit? ] ;B[qq]CR[qq] ;W[qp]CR[qp] ;B[pp]CR[pp] ;W[qo]CR[qo] ;B[qn]CR[qn] ;W[pn]CR[pn] ;B[rn]CR[rn] ;W[ro]CR[ro] (;B[oq]CR[oq] (;W[pr]CR[pr] ;B[qr]CR[qr]) (;W[rq]CR[rq] ;B[qr]CR[qr] ;W[rr]CR[rr]C[Umpio [10k?\]: viktor valkoinen urtela musta ] ;B[pr]CR[pr] ;W[pm]CR[pm]C[kari [?\]: ohhoh S2 dxxd [18k\]: onko rankingia pistää pöytään kari [?\]: valkoinen poikkesi josekista Umpio [10k?\]: sori sekvenssit saattaa olla sekaisin, sekos hetkeksi Umpio [10k?\]: mut tilanne on kuitenkin tämä ] ;B[nc]CR[nc]C[Umpio [10k?\]: mainostakaa tätä english roomiin tai jotain Umpio [10k?\]: ei kerkeä, tahti hektinen :P ] (;W[pg]CR[pg]) (;W[pf]CR[pf] ;B[jd]CR[jd] ;W[de]CR[de] ;B[dh]CR[dh] ;W[ec]CR[ec] ;B[dd]CR[dd] ;W[ed]CR[ed] ;B[ee]CR[ee] ;W[db]CR[db] ;B[cb]CR[cb]C[Lacrimosa [8k?\]: aah, pahamaineinen joseki ] ;W[ce]CR[ce]C[Lacrimosa [8k?\]: ei enää Lacrimosa [8k?\]: vai onko kari [?\]: en ole nähnyt tätä variaatiota ennen ] ;B[bd]CR[bd] ;W[cd]CR[cd] ;B[cc]CR[cc] ;W[be]CR[be]C[Javaness [5k\]: viktor bogdanov? Umpio [10k?\]: yeah ] ;B[eb]CR[eb]C[Javaness [5k\]: as valkea? ] ;W[fb]CR[fb] ;B[da]CR[da]C[Umpio [10k?\]: yeah Umpio [10k?\]: viktor boganov as white, mika urtela as black kari [?\]: i think this result favors black ] ;W[gd]CR[gd]C[Javaness [5k\]: M17 looks a problem for black to me, but i suppose that dans o not worry about such things kari [?\]: you can go to corner in case of emergency ] ;B[fe]CR[fe]C[kari [?\]: i would have played something else than F15 Javaness [5k\]: i still don't see why takapotku was organised on the same dates as Oza :) Umpio [10k?\]: coincidence? ] ;W[hb]CR[hb] ;B[bc]CR[bc]C[Javaness [5k\]: well somebody didn't check the Calendar :) Javaness [5k\]: white looks so heavy ] ;W[bh]CR[bh]C[Baikkis [17k?\]: yeah, can't understand why they didn't check at oza that takapotku was on the sama days Baikkis [17k?\]: *same Javaness [5k\]: something inside me wants to play tenuki kari [?\]: i would probably something like C10 ] ;B[ge]CR[ge] ;W[hd]CR[hd] ;B[he]CR[he]C[Javaness [5k\]: black plays gomoku tesuji ] ;W[fa]CR[fa]C[BuddyL [8k\]: who v who? kari [?\]: go-gomoku biathlon Umpio [10k?\]: viktor boganov 6d as white, mika urtela 2d as black BuddyL [8k\]: those rotten russians! Javaness [5k\]: such racist tendencies are inappropriate for an 8kyu Umpio [10k?\]: urtela has used 15 minutes now, viktor has used 7 Umpio [10k?\]: main time 65min Ruutana [5k\]: Black should just play J15 and the game is over. Javaness [5k\]: patience Javaness [5k\]: black must wait until the moment is ripe ] ;B[fd]CR[fd] ;W[fc]CR[fc] ;B[id]CR[id] ;W[jb]CR[jb]C[Javaness [5k\]: 8 second line stones from white ] ;B[ic]CR[ic] ;W[ib]CR[ib] ;B[hc]CR[hc] ;W[gc]CR[gc] ;B[ga]CR[ga]C[Javaness [5k\]: cute kari [?\]: i think black is in trouble already Javaness [5k\]: youo don't like his wall? kari [?\]: not especially Kumno [11k\]: for some reason i like that wall :P Kumno [11k\]: but i think its cos i am only 11k :P kari [?\]: the game is not over, but black shape is a bit weird ] ;W[kc]CR[kc] ;B[ci]CR[ci] ;W[bi]CR[bi] ;B[bj]CR[bj]C[kari [?\]: of course, if he kills these stones, then it is a different story :) ] ;W[cj]CR[cj] ;B[bk]CR[bk] ;W[dg]CR[dg] ;B[eh]CR[eh] ;W[ch]CR[ch] ;B[di]CR[di] ;W[eg]CR[eg] ;B[fh]CR[fh] ;W[fg]CR[fg] ;B[gh]CR[gh] ;W[hf]CR[hf] ;B[if]CR[if]C[Kumno [11k\]: this seems to bad for W ] ;W[hg]CR[hg] ;B[gg]CR[gg]C[Kumno [11k\]: +br Kumno [11k\]: *be ] ;W[gf]CR[gf] ;B[ff]CR[ff] ;W[ef]CR[ef] ;B[ie]CR[ie] ;W[cf]CR[cf]C[kari [?\]: sometimes i feel that i understand only my own games :/ Umpio [10k?\]: viktor is shaking his head :P Kumno [11k\]: hee :P ] ;B[hh]CR[hh] ;W[fp]CR[fp]C[Umpio [10k?\]: crap ] ;AE[dp][fp]AB[cp]C[kari [?\]: who is umpio? Kumno [11k\]: lol XD Chousuke [13k?\]: hm. Lacrimosa [8k?\]: pass once to change color Kumno [11k\]: what a heg O_o Javaness [5k\]: *goes crazy* Kumno [11k\]: O:o Umpio [10k?\]: cant change the color Lacrimosa [8k?\]: press pass Cuda [8k\]: of course you can ] (;B[ep]CR[ep]) (;B[eq]CR[eq]) (;AW[ep]C[Kumno [11k\]: goodie :) ] ;B[hp]CR[hp] ;W[cq]CR[cq] ;B[bq]CR[bq] ;W[dq]CR[dq] ;B[bp]CR[bp]C[fryskenfry [18k\]: is this a relayed game? ] ;W[en]CR[en] ;B[cn]CR[cn] ;W[br]CR[br] ;B[fq]CR[fq]C[Cuda [8k\]: yes fryskenfry [18k\]: who are playing? Lacrimosa [8k?\]: c3 is some special case thing ] (;W[io]CR[io]) (;W[hn]CR[hn] ;B[go]CR[go] ;W[fp]CR[fp]C[Javaness [5k\]: White is the Russian Viktor Bogdanov, 6d ] ;B[gq]CR[gq]C[Cuda [8k\]: Umpio [10k?\]: viktor boganov 6d as white, mika urtela 2d as black Umpio [10k?\]: once again the sequence might be off Umpio [10k?\]: kari, a lowly 8kyu on a voluntary duty :P Umpio [10k?\]: hpr on irc kari [?\]: ok Umpio [10k?\]: and sorry about that ] ;W[el]CR[el] ;B[fm]CR[fm] ;W[em]CR[em] ;B[fo]CR[fo] ;W[eo]CR[eo] ;B[gm]CR[gm] ;W[cl]CR[cl] ;B[bl]CR[bl] ;W[cm]CR[cm] ;B[bm]CR[bm]C[onlainari [17k\]: what's the weight of J13 ] ;W[dn]CR[dn]C[Kumno [11k\]: C9 now? onlainari [17k\]: it's good for black anyway ah ] ;B[ar]CR[ar] ;W[co]CR[co] ;B[bn]CR[bn] ;W[bs]CR[bs] ;B[bo]CR[bo]C[Javaness [5k\]: i preferred C9 ] ;W[er]CR[er] ;B[fr]CR[fr]C[Umpio [10k?\]: .. lisensismaksut kehiin ;) Kumno [11k\]: ? onlainari [17k\]: why F2 Kumno [11k\]: wondering that too :P Lacrimosa [8k?\]: should be sente? joshiva [4k\]: maybe he tries to cover H3 in sente ] ;W[ds]CR[ds]C[Umpio [10k?\]: white would have been cut if hadn't responeded? Umpio [10k?\]: or left with one eye? Lacrimosa [8k?\]: black has d8 Kumno [11k\]: yeah truye Kumno [11k\]: *true kari [?\]: black R17 would be good now Javaness [5k\]: P6 seems useful to onlainari [17k\]: hmm there would have been E3 D4 E1 and no eyes in bottom I guess Kumno [11k\]: yep ] ;B[kp]CR[kp] ;W[mn]CR[mn]C[Kumno [11k\]: hmm now i feel like "this is my area and its all what i need" kari [?\]: L4 was very bad BuddyL [8k\]: Interesting BuddyL [8k\]: J13 can now escape Javaness [5k\]: L4 showed insufficient consideration joshiva [4k\]: no, it can't BuddyL [8k\]: no? onlainari [17k\]: why it's bad kari [?\]: there is no ladder joshiva [4k\]: it's a loose ladder BuddyL [8k\]: what is sequence? joshiva [4k\]: it's a loose ladder kari [?\]: but L4 is "the losing move" BuddyL [8k\]: loose ladder, what does that mean? Javaness [5k\]: now black must reduce white's mojo Kumno [11k\]: if W j13 then B to K12 right? onlainari [17k\]: whyyyy L4 so bad ? Umpio [10k?\]: too slow Kumno [11k\]: yeah joshiva [4k\]: J13 K12 K13 L13 K14 kari [?\]: onlainari, you cannot use thickness like that onlainari [17k\]: hmm Kumno [11k\]: joshiva: so i was thinking it right ;) ] ;B[re]CR[re]C[kari [?\]: it is overconcentration BuddyL [8k\]: oh BuddyL [8k\]: I am no good with that sort of move kari [?\]: and S15 is another bad movw Umpio [10k?\]: "probe" kari [?\]: it is a trick play onlainari [17k\]: how about L6 ? Randomi [15k\]: who is playing? Javaness [5k\]: Russians love trick plays Randomi [15k\]: okay kari [?\]: it is mika who is playing black Kumno [11k\]: i think so ] ;W[qc]CR[qc] ;B[rk]CR[rk] ;W[rl]CR[rl]C[Kumno [11k\]: R13? Javaness [5k\]: ominous Umpio [10k?\]: yeah, mika plays black ] ;B[qg]CR[qg]C[Kumno [11k\]: \\o/ ] ;W[ri]CR[ri]C[Lacrimosa [8k?\]: kari, what would you have played instead of L4? Chousuke [13k?\]: S11 seems evil ] ;B[qi]CR[qi]C[kari [?\]: R17 or in the direction of O6 ] ;W[rj]CR[rj]C[Kumno [11k\]: Mika made good in there i think... kari [?\]: no ] ;B[qj]CR[qj]C[Kumno [11k\]: -.- ] ;W[qk]CR[qk]C[Javaness [5k\]: to kill O17 is not so good ] ;B[pk]CR[pk] ;W[sk]CR[sk]C[Javaness [5k\]: M15 is big for white Kumno [11k\]: i was looking that escape road kari [?\]: black's play is deteriorating kari [?\]: the opening was better ] ;B[oi]CR[oi] ;W[pg]CR[pg]C[Javaness [5k\]: black can ignore that move? ] ;B[ph]CR[ph]C[Javaness [5k\]: M15 looks bigger to me ] ;W[rh]CR[rh]C[kari [?\]: after this white will surround O17 ] ;B[qh]CR[qh] ;W[qf]CR[qf]C[Javaness [5k\]: R12 seems pointless Umpio [10k?\]: btw. vesa von esa ;) ] ;B[me]CR[me]C[Lacrimosa [8k?\]: ok Javaness [5k\]: vesa von esa? Lacrimosa [8k?\]: beat dxxd [18k\]: :D Chousuke [13k?\]: won :P Umpio [10k?\]: on table 2. von -> won Javaness [5k\]: who is esa/? Umpio [10k?\]: esa seuranen 2d Javaness [5k\]: oh ok Javaness [5k\]: omg Javaness [5k\]: vesa what are you doing here ] ;W[ng]CR[ng]C[snowman [-\]: i'm watching over you, java dxxd [18k\]: snowman, great work :) Javaness [5k\]: i wasn't there when it happened Lacrimosa [8k?\]: snowman, did you beat esa as badly as antti? ] ;B[mj]CR[mj]C[snowman [-\]: not so quickly this time Umpio [10k?\]: less time, more moves :P Umpio [10k?\]: any thoughts on this game? onlainari [17k\]: tengen onlainari [17k\]: tengen because it's tengen, not because it's best move :( ] ;W[le]CR[le]C[Umpio [10k?\]: mika has about 25 minutes left, viktor has 33 ] ;B[lf]CR[lf] ;W[md]CR[md] ;B[ld]CR[ld] ;W[mc]CR[mc]C[dxxd [18k\]: hard for black ] ;B[ke]CR[ke] ;W[nd]CR[nd]C[zedi [9k\]: s13 getting big? ] ;B[mh]CR[mh]C[dxxd [18k\]: hmm ] ;W[ll]CR[ll] ;B[kk]CR[kk]C[dxxd [18k\]: i was thinking l8 myself, but still.....black can close pretty ok Kumno [11k\]: L7 looks big now MaxMakinen [11k\]: minä dxxd [18k\]: kari, what do you think ? ] ;W[mp]CR[mp] ;B[mq]CR[mq]C[kari [?\]: sorry, what was the question.. dxxd [18k\]: about the situation ] ;W[jm]CR[jm]C[dxxd [18k\]: how is mika ] ;B[il]CR[il]C[kari [?\]: i would bet on white's victory kari [?\]: but that is just my first intuition.. kari [?\]: i haven't calculated.. Umpio [10k?\]: on board they are pretty even, i think. but the komi is 7 points dxxd [18k\]: maybe +-10 points ? ] ;W[fk]CR[fk]C[kari [?\]: yes Kumno [11k\]: and draw goes to B right? Umpio [10k?\]: jigo is jigo Umpio [10k?\]: ½ points for both Umpio [10k?\]: if they are tied Kumno [11k\]: oh ok... ] ;B[rg]CR[rg] ;W[rf]CR[rf] ;B[sf]CR[sf] ;W[hk]CR[hk] ;B[ik]CR[ik] ;W[hj]CR[hj] ;B[ij]CR[ij]C[snowman [-\]: se says jigo! ] ;W[lp]CR[lp] ;B[lq]CR[lq] ;W[ko]CR[ko] ;B[jp]CR[jp]C[kari [?\]: black had so much better opening that even playing moves like L4 he managed to get a close game ] ;W[jo]CR[jo] ;B[sb]CR[sb]C[Lacrimosa [8k?\]: egr tarjoaa dinerchtein vs kulkov -peliä :> kari [?\]: mikä se on noista? ] ;W[rb]CR[rb] ;B[sd]CR[sd]C[Lacrimosa [8k?\]: ykkönen kari [?\]: joo, mulla oli kelautuneena toi näyttö, niin en nähnyt niitä :) ] ;W[rc]CR[rc]C[dxxd [18k\]: eikö o8-alueelle voi kohta jo pelata ] ;B[ek]CR[ek]C[Lacrimosa [8k?\]: ei taida olla syytä pelata dxxd [18k\]: ok ] ;W[fl]CR[fl] ;B[nl]CR[nl]C[dxxd [18k\]: oho dxxd [18k\]: :P Kumno [11k\]: ilmeisesti oli Lacrimosa [8k?\]: katsoin tietenkin että o18 ;I zedi [9k\]: ;) ] ;W[nm]CR[nm] ;B[ml]CR[ml] ;W[mm]CR[mm]C[Kumno [11k\]: eiks C9 oo jo suhkot iso pelattava mustalle? zedi [9k\]: kai se kohta on ] ;B[lk]CR[lk]C[kari [?\]: musta varmaan ajatteli D8:a pelatessaan E9, mutta valkealla on C2 snowman [-\]: d8 on ilmeisesti mikan loppupelitesuji ] ;W[pl]CR[pl] ;B[ol]CR[ol]C[Umpio [10k?\]: viktor has now 10 minutes left, mika has 14 ] ;W[ne]CR[ne] ;B[no]CR[no] ;W[np]CR[np] ;B[oo]CR[oo] ;W[om]CR[om]C[dxxd [18k\]: somehow I think p5 instead of o5 would have been better Lacrimosa [8k?\]: o5 threatens cut ] ;B[qe]CR[qe]C[dxxd [18k\]: :-) Lacrimosa [8k?\]: p5 gote ] ;W[mf]CR[mf]C[Lacrimosa [8k?\]: i think :> Trumelunki [4d\]: S1 and T17 very big ] ;B[mg]CR[mg] ;W[le]CR[le] ;B[ea]CR[ea] ;W[gb]CR[gb] ;B[me]CR[me] ;W[ba]CR[ba] ;B[bb]CR[bb] ;W[le]CR[le] ;B[gl]CR[gl] ;W[ej]CR[ej] ;B[dk]CR[dk] ;W[ck]CR[ck] ;B[dj]CR[dj]C[kari [?\]: SE ei tiedä sanontaa, että 8 elää ] ;W[dl]CR[dl] ;B[me]CR[me] ;W[nq]CR[nq] ;B[nr]CR[nr] ;W[le]CR[le] ;B[mo]CR[mo] ;W[lo]CR[lo] ;B[me]CR[me] ;W[ca]CR[ca] ;B[aa]CR[aa] ;W[le]CR[le] ;B[so]CR[so]C[Lacrimosa [8k?\]: hmm ] ;W[rp]CR[rp] ;B[me]CR[me]C[zedi [9k\]: eikö s4 ekana? Lacrimosa [8k?\]: niin ] ;W[ca]CR[ca] ;B[ba]CR[ba] ;W[le]CR[le]C[snowman [-\]: ei, loppupelissä miinusta ] ;B[bg]CR[bg] ;W[cg]CR[cg] ;B[me]CR[me]C[zedi [9k\]: kuinka? Lacrimosa [8k?\]: ilmeisesti s1 ei ole sitten sente Lacrimosa [8k?\]: tai öö ] ;W[nf]CR[nf]C[Lacrimosa [8k?\]: s1 jälkeen valkoisen pitää joka tapauksessa syödä ] ;B[fj]CR[fj] ;W[gk]CR[gk]C[zedi [9k\]: tai pelaa t2 dxxd [18k\]: miten ois j6 Lacrimosa [8k?\]: t2 jälkeen pitää silti syödä ] ;B[kl]CR[kl] ;W[lm]CR[lm]C[zedi [9k\]: jep ] ;B[rs]CR[rs] ;W[hi]CR[hi] ;B[ii]CR[ii] ;W[sc]CR[sc] ;B[sr]CR[sr] ;W[rm]CR[rm] ;B[km]CR[km]C[kari [?\]: mustahan voittaa tämän vielä.. ] ;W[io]CR[io] ;B[kn]CR[kn] ;W[ln]CR[ln]C[kari [?\]: on se hurja Umpio [10k?\]: viktorilla jäljellä 2 minsaa, mikalla 6 ] ;B[lc]CR[lc] ;W[lb]CR[lb] ;B[gi]CR[gi] ;W[nh]CR[nh] ;B[ni]CR[ni] ;W[oh]CR[oh] ;B[pe]CR[pe] ;W[oe]CR[oe]C[Lacrimosa [8k?\]: egf:n mukaan 2 danin voittoprosentti on 3.7 Umpio [10k?\]: urtela on nilki Umpio [10k?\]: +k Randomi [15k\]: vai todennäköisyys? :-) kari [?\]: no, viktor ei ole varmaankaan sen sairauden jälkeen ihan 6d-kunnossa? Lacrimosa [8k?\]: joku pro opetti sille juttuja, sen jälkeen se voitti antin Umpio [10k?\]: kari, jep ] ;B[ip]CR[ip] ;W[qs]CR[qs] ;B[ps]CR[ps] ;W[op]CR[op]C[kari [?\]: musta voittaa yli 5 pojoa.. Umpio [10k?\]: hurjan kokoinen keskialue mustalla Umpio [10k?\]: black in byo-yomi kari [?\]: olisko b+8? snowman [-\]: "karimator" ] ;B[ho]CR[ho]C[kari [?\]: hehe ] ;W[im]CR[im] ;B[jn]CR[jn] ;W[hl]CR[hl] ;B[dp]CR[dp] ;W[eq]CR[eq] ;B[do]CR[do] ;W[fs]CR[fs] ;B[gs]CR[gs] ;W[hr]CR[hr] ;B[es]CR[es] ;W[fn]CR[fn] ;B[gn]CR[gn] ;W[fs]CR[fs] ;B[gr]CR[gr] ;W[gp]CR[gp] ;B[hq]CR[hq] ;W[le]CR[le]C[kari [?\]: itse asiassa taitaa voittaa jopa reilummin, en huomannut paria pistettä ] ;B[kd]CR[kd] ;W[jl]CR[jl] ;B[jk]CR[jk] ;W[gj]CR[gj] ;B[ei]CR[ei] ;W[jc]CR[jc] ;B[ae]CR[ae] ;W[af]CR[af] ;B[ad]CR[ad] ;W[aj]CR[aj] ;B[ak]CR[ak] ;W[ai]CR[ai] ;B[sq]CR[sq] ;W[sn]CR[sn] ;B[sh]CR[sh] ;W[sp]CR[sp]C[dxxd [18k\]: öh ] ;B[si]CR[si] ;W[ss]CR[ss] ;B[sr]CR[sr] ;W[sj]CR[sj] ;B[sg]CR[sg] ;W[es]CR[es] ;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[sq]CR[sq] ;B[qs]CR[qs] ;W[ss]CR[ss]C[dxxd [18k\]: onnea Urtelalle! dxxd [18k\]: hieno peli kyllä ] ;B[ag]CR[ag] ;W[bf]CR[bf] ;B[sr]CR[sr] ;W[mr]CR[mr] ;B[lr]CR[lr]C[kari [?\]: juu, voitti vaikka teki paksuudella aluetta ] ;W[qd]CR[qd] ;B[ok]CR[ok] ;W[me]CR[me] ;B[ss]CR[ss] ;W[rd]CR[rd] ;B[se]CR[se] ;W[hm]CR[hm] ;B[ms]CR[ms] ;W[as]CR[as] ;B[aq]CR[aq] ;W[nn]CR[nn] ;B[on]CR[on]C[Umpio [10k?\]: m+10 Lacrimosa [8k?\]: SE:kin on sitä mieltä ]))))) (;B[or]CR[or]) (;B[np]CR[np]))