(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[7.00]TM[4200]OT[1x15 byo-yomi] GN[Takapotku Open 2014 board 2 round 2]PW[Antti Törmänen]PB[Javier-Aleksi Savolainen]WR[7d]BR[5d]DT[2014-01-04]EV[Takapotku Open 2014]RO[2]PC[Espoo, Finland]RE[W+9.00] ;B[qd] ;W[dc] ;B[de] ;W[fd] ;B[cp] ;W[pq] ;B[po] ;W[oc] ;B[pe] ;W[np]C[Konservas [2d?\]: already looks interesting:D TP2014B [-\]: so far very normal, nothing has happened yet ^^ Konservas [2d?\]: yes, but positions looks interesting for me:> TP2014B [-\]: yeah every single corner is komoku, not quite common in pro games nowadays :P ] ;B[pj] ;W[eq]C[Konservas [2d?\]: is q10 normal?:> TP2014B [-\]: not quite, but also can hardly say it is bad Warfreak2 [5d\]: gooooo antti ] ;B[do]C[gooooo [-\]: warfreak, Antti Törmänen [7d\] vs Javier-Alexsi Savolainen [5d\] gooooo [-\]: tp2014b, you should add the players to the title so android clients can check who is who Warfreak2 [5d\]: thanks, antti is w? gooooo [-\]: yeah TP2014B [-\]: Ah I see Konservas [2d?\]: its quite interesting how white aproaches low and black high :> Warfreak2 [5d\]: hello from a phone gooooo [-\]: soon phone time for me too ] ;W[di]C[jussayin: is b trying shusaku opening? hontono [1d\]: no Naab [3k\]: what's that? jussayin: although I suppose high approach (5-4) not really part of that opening ] ;B[lc] ;W[cm]C[Javaness [2d\]: I always feel guilty playing kosumi Courga [3d?\]: do they have a kgs acount ? jojotus [3d\]: Tien and ErgoProxy Courga [3d?\]: thanks ] ;B[fp]C[gooooo [-\]: g3? ] ;W[qb]C[hikachu [4d\]: that's a weird move imo ] ;B[nd] ;W[nc] ;B[md] ;W[rc] ;B[cc] ;W[cb] ;B[cd] ;W[eb] ;B[cg] ;W[ch] ;B[dg] ;W[fi] ;B[fq] ;W[kq] ;B[nn] ;W[qo] ;B[qn] ;W[qp] ;B[rn]C[yildirim [8k\]: tenuki now hikachu [4d\]: R14? yildirim [8k\]: R 12 i think Funshirt [7k\]: q11 Funshirt [7k\]: j17? small Ahamay [5d\]: probably R12 now yildirim [8k\]: hardest move in the game of white TP2014B [-\]: both players have 46 minutes time left ] ;W[mi]C[yildirim [8k\]: TP2014B it s live on internet ? TP2014B [-\]: what do you mean? yildirim [8k\]: i mean , can we see them while playing real ? yildirim [8k\]: or just playing in KGS ? ] ;B[ki] ;W[pi]C[TPStage1: the game is played on board during the Takapotku tournament, TP2014B is recording the game here in real time TP2014B [-\]: there is no webcam, but the game is played on a real board. ] ;B[oi]C[yildirim [8k\]: ok yildirim [8k\]: tx ] ;W[oh]C[Funshirt [7k\]: r11? ] ;B[oj]C[NlsBlr [1d\]: anti is b? ExplO [1d\]: he's white Backflash [?\]: w NlsBlr [1d\]: thx ] ;W[pg] ;B[qi]C[NlsBlr [1d\]: tough board for a ko Funshirt [7k\]: y almost no threats yildirim [8k\]: S15 nice threat ] ;W[qh]C[awesome [4k\]: seems b got a fairly good opening awesome [4k\]: not that I doubt tien will win Backflash [?\]: upper elft looks bad and upper right too Backflash [?\]: not that greeat of a opening TP2014B [-\]: You mean that b got a fairly good opening against Antti? awesome [4k\]: no :) TP2014B [-\]: I think it is about even. gruik [1d\]: I would say undecided TP2014B [-\]: Not that I understand any of the first 20 moves... :) Ahamay [5d\]: haha nobody does I guess :) Javaness [2d\]: I don't really like white's position awesome [4k\]: kyus does hontono [1d\]: B 32, W 32 pts hontono [1d\]: would be my count Konservas [2d?\]: anti too peaceful hontono [1d\]: But Q15 is in an awkward position Dlayn [4k\]: whats worng with Ws postion TP2014B [-\]: That is almost the minutes they have left. Black: 34 and white 40 ] ;B[ri]C[awesome [4k\]: segway :) Dlayn [4k\]: looks like B has less potiential from here Funshirt [7k\]: s15? Konservas [2d?\]: no hontono [1d\]: no Konservas [2d?\]: white fixe the shape Konservas [2d?\]: n13 maybe greenway [1d\]: but b has no weak groups f1230 [7d\]: i think whites opening is not very good hontono [1d\]: white needs a move around N13 ] ;W[mg]C[hontono [1d\]: ahahaha Minjhou [7k?\]: "around"? hontono [1d\]: called it Backflash [?\]: you missed it Backflash [?\]: you said around^) TP2014B [-\]: You got it around right. Konservas [2d?\]: i got it right ^^ f1230 [7d\]: but black needs to play good now HighStoner [4k\]: aiming at p16? f1230 [7d\]: if o16 groups starts to get attacked then white will have easy game TP2014B [-\]: Konservas got it maybe right ;) Muttley [2k\]: b needs a move around o14 Konservas [2d?\]: :> greenway [1d\]: w cab try to attack k17 while saving p12 group Muttley [2k\]: polar co-ordinates+/-5 TPStage1: follow commentary by Jeff on this game: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-FI gogonuts [5d\]: after top left i thought b was a little bit ahead because that was bigger than w life in top right, but i didnt like o6 martin97 [-\]: maybe around l13 :) hontono [1d\]: Who is Jeff? awesome [4k\]: who is Jeff? ] ;B[hc]C[gogonuts [5d\]: why do they all play keimes into the center against antti? yunoo: L11 somewhat strange Muttley [2k\]: Jeff Chang, very strong Chinese player and part of the Nordic go school martin97 [-\]: all wrong Muttley [2k\]: I was close Backflash [?\]: leima is honor keima is knightlyhood keima is life! hontono [1d\]: H17 leaves black a bit thin, no? TPStage1: http://www.nordicgoacademy.com/teachers/jeff/ Konservas [2d?\]: becouse keimas looks cool against anti ] ;W[kg]C[gogonuts [5d\]: lol gogonuts [5d\]: but you pay :-) Backflash [?\]: every knight paid one way or another, it is knight move for a reason ] ;B[fc]C[Konservas [2d?\]: yes blackflash totaly agree;) ] ;W[ed] ;B[fg]C[Konservas [2d?\]: jeff Chang , i like his commentary :D gogonuts [5d\]: w invaded, but b doesnt look like the attacker Konservas [2d?\]: white won :> hontono [1d\]: Ustream? Should use twitch.tv ... gogonuts [5d\]: it looks like b invaded at the top :-) Backflash [?\]: hontono just shows how oldfashioned go players are:) ] ;W[ge]C[awesome [4k\]: k16 TP2014B [-\]: Ustream is what we've got. Sorry that we don't have anything better. :) onerabbit [2k\]: j14! ] ;B[hg]C[Backflash [?\]: twitch is free you know Ahamay [5d\]: I think black is still okay Ahamay [5d\]: because the opening was really good for him f1230 [7d\]: yes leftside is thin but h17 was too soft gogonuts [5d\]: wait 10 moves :-) TP2014B [-\]: but as long as Eutogotv uses Ustream, we have Ustream :) Architect [2k\]: what is the point here? i dont see b plans.. Backflash [?\]: closing w in, shouldnt work TP2014B [-\]: Do you see eyes on every white groups? :) yunoo: d9 shining Konservas [2d?\]: yea hontono [1d\]: Saying that because ustream doesn't work for me.. gogonuts [5d\]: it has been proven that w groups have +0.25 extra eyes f1230 [7d\]: white j14 now f1230 [7d\]: looks normal gogonuts [5d\]: j14 looks pretty nice for w ] ;W[jc]C[gogonuts [5d\]: no need to hack b apart anywhere gogonuts [5d\]: w saw it differently :-) Konservas [2d?\]: anti wants to finish game faster gogonuts [5d\]: hungry? Konservas [2d?\]: probably gogonuts [5d\]: maybe he thought any fool can play J14 ] ;B[he]C[hontono [1d\]: yea but now top left looks a bit weak gogonuts [5d\]: k17 worked Minjhou [7k?\]: n16 not healthy gogonuts [5d\]: panicked b :-) ] ;W[je]C[Architect [2k\]: s13 ? hontono [1d\]: pressure corner first i'd say Architect [2k\]: nvm Muttley [2k\]: top right > top left, top left w will live anyway yunoo: cutting issues here Konservas [2d?\]: g16 ?:> Architect [2k\]: k18 Minjhou [7k?\]: will tl live? Konservas [2d?\]: architect o_O awesome [4k\]: is k18 bad? hontono [1d\]: can't G16 now, no time gogonuts [5d\]: k18 doesnt connect in this case awesome [4k\]: oh... gogonuts [5d\]: because j16 is absolute w sente Architect [2k\]: w can cut h17 anyway.. point is making m18 alive Konservas [2d?\]: thats how u lose games arhcitect ;> gogonuts [5d\]: i think antti isnt trying to be mean, just wants to amuse himself ] ;B[rg]C[gogonuts [5d\]: s13 doesnt feel good, but its sensible Backseeed [4d\]: still some cut aji ] ;W[hf]C[CakeEater [1d\]: s13 seems a litle submisive Konservas [2d?\]: white is strong awesome [4k\]: sure is ] ;B[if]C[Ahamay [5d\]: you were right with your 10 move prediction, gogo Ahamay [5d\]: now it looks like game over ] ;W[hd] ;B[gf] ;W[id]C[awesome [4k\]: w played it simple Architect [2k\]: and kinda sente ] ;B[cj]C[Architect [2k\]: b still hve to fix the top right conection i think.. Konservas [2d?\]: wha..c10 ] ;W[dk]C[Konservas [2d?\]: well :) ] ;B[bh] ;W[ck]C[TPStage1: Commentary still available at http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-FI by http://www.nordicgoacademy.com/teachers/jeff/ gogonuts [5d\]: good choice b to invade gogonuts [5d\]: i have to admit i was wrong - b can play like this gogonuts [5d\]: overall ] ;B[bi]C[awesome [4k\]: :( Ahamay [5d\]: I think I would D10 first as B Ahamay [5d\]: not sure if white will still block later.. ] ;W[qf]C[Ahamay [5d\]: and R14 is huge awesome [4k\]: now w going mean Architect [2k\]: smells like corpses gogonuts [5d\]: yupp, b12 sente was all the sente b could expect yunoo: ending tenuked at left isnt a fun thing yildirim [8k\]: O 16 white group is dead ? Ahamay [5d\]: well after D10 exchange the cut is quite painful skatergaga [2d\]: almost ] ;B[el]C[awesome [4k\]: wow Architect [2k\]: uh... mutual damage gogonuts [5d\]: b knows he messed up klausP [3d\]: did Jeff comment about white playing tenuki after f4? Ahamay [5d\]: so he wants to mess up more ^^ gogonuts [5d\]: desperate attempt to kill all gogonuts [5d\]: lol gogonuts [5d\]: i like your description better hontono [1d\]: Doesn't look like a strong attack. hontono [1d\]: looks like a moyo attempt ] ;W[gk] ;B[ek] ;W[dj]C[Architect [2k\]: he is shaping w down hontono [1d\]: empty triangle coming up Architect [2k\]: trying to yunoo: killing this is hard work hontono [1d\]: H11 looks proper if he wants to continue the chase, but E8 is kinda heavy Architect [2k\]: b hnnt a choice ] ;B[hi] ;W[bj]C[NlsBlr [1d\]: hard to kill and live in the UR ] ;B[ci]C[SpiriT93 [10k\]: b9? hontono [1d\]: white's fine there NlsBlr [1d\]: i mean b Architect [2k\]: d8 e7 b8 a10 b6 hontono [1d\]: well he can't live there hontono [1d\]: so that's obvious NlsBlr [1d\]: you re right, so its almost game over ] ;W[em]C[hontono [1d\]: S15 still big hontono [1d\]: but yea awesome [4k\]: poor b gogonuts [5d\]: e7 works easily ] ;B[fm]C[gogonuts [5d\]: what is b even doing hontono [1d\]: building a middle moyo Architect [2k\]: d8 lives gogonuts [5d\]: theres nothing there hontono [1d\]: of about 5 points gogonuts [5d\]: lol ] ;W[fl]C[gogonuts [5d\]: holy moly gogonuts [5d\]: didnt see that coming hontono [1d\]: G7? Muttley [2k\]: I don't see many b points, or ways to make points (other than killing stuff) gogonuts [5d\]: thought he would be happy with e6 hontono [1d\]: How could anyone be happy with E6 gogonuts [5d\]: such a sharp move - some pro must have told antti "no more mr nice guy" ] ;B[dm] ;W[en] ;B[dl]C[gogonuts [5d\]: if you lack ambition as i do, then e6 is fine Jazzman [1k\]: lol ] ;W[dn] ;B[cn] ;W[bn]C[awesome [4k\]: haha hontono [1d\]: 6 pts gote ] ;B[co]C[hontono [1d\]: I would not want that NlsBlr [1d\]: ove NlsBlr [1d\]: ro Muttley [2k\]: I thought it was ove ro too hontono [1d\]: he's playing hangman with himself NlsBlr [1d\]: f6 Architect [2k\]: e8 pretty conected awesome [4k\]: the thing is, b was supposed to kill all left to make up for top ] ;W[fn]C[Architect [2k\]: c8 b7 b8 b9 b5 ] ;B[cl] ;W[bm] ;B[bl] ;W[bk]C[Architect [2k\]: i should be a 7 dan gogonuts [5d\]: nasty, but nice ] ;B[bo] ;W[ej]C[gogonuts [5d\]: full squeeze plus h7 ] ;B[an] ;W[fk] ;B[am] ;W[gm]C[NlsBlr [1d\]: time to resign klausP [3d\]: guess u mean g7 gogonuts [5d\]: oops, yes Architect [2k\]: h7 work as well klausP [3d\]: realy nice sac gogonuts [5d\]: but klaus is right gogonuts [5d\]: i would always take :-) klausP [3d\]: lacking abition as w know klausP [3d\]: :) klausP [3d\]: Me too Muttley [2k\]: nothing beats the feeling of capturing cutting stones HighStoner [4k\]: black resigned? awesome [4k\]: saving cutting stones! Architect [2k\]: he is looking for aji to conect s13 TP2014B [-\]: B is still fighting TP2014B [-\]: Now b has a plan hontono [1d\]: Don't wanna get burned by the disqualifire. Architect [2k\]: ? TP2014B [-\]: sorry it was like this Architect [2k\]: what is going on? ] ;B[rd] ;W[rf] ;B[sd]C[klausP [3d\]: thanks TP2014B [-\]: like this gogonuts [5d\]: in about 5 years it will be a real problem in amateur tournaments Architect [2k\]: pretty nice sequence HighStoner [4k\]: interesting noodling chibimin [-\]: noodles! gogonuts [5d\]: toiletts will be supervised :-/ hontono [1d\]: How inhumane. TP2014B [-\]: oops. w not in boyomi. He has 17 minutes :) HighStoner [4k\]: they will have google glass contact lenses kjkjk: by toilet referee hontono [1d\]: with sound gogonuts [5d\]: lol ] ;W[sg]C[sandbag [4d\]: O.o hontono [1d\]: Last fight of the game Architect [2k\]: if they get a strong machine we will change the game for 21x21 gogonuts [5d\]: we can run but we cant hide hontono [1d\]: We can't, the 19x19's got all that nice philosophy behind it. TP2014B [-\]: This better work for b Thoravatar [3d\]: starting to look good for black hontono [1d\]: 361 days, 4 seasons and all ] ;B[mb]C[Architect [2k\]: w corner dead? ] ;W[nb]C[yunoo: tsumego time klausP [3d\]: unlikely sandbag [4d\]: antii doesn´t seem to agree :D Architect [2k\]: oh Architect [2k\]: b failed leachy [2k\]: looks like some kind of tsumego problem Architect [2k\]: cant avoid the bad aji at n17 Thoravatar [3d\]: n18 doesnt seem right CakeEater [1d\]: so much cutting point HighStoner [4k\]: t18? klausP [3d\]: i see a ko variation sandbag [4d\]: b will die horribly Javaness [2d\]: ce esti de facut leachy [2k\]: i think q18 first to analyze hontono [1d\]: Watch your language, Javaness. klausP [3d\]: bunt also unlikely gogonuts [5d\]: corner isnt aliv but b has 2 problems on the outside Jazzman [1k\]: but b needs to protect some cuts some time like m15.... so hard to kill inside? yunoo: w has too many libs, alive i think ] ;B[oa]C[chibimin [-\]: I see an imminent explosion hontono [1d\]: T18 doesn't work hontono [1d\]: btw gogonuts [5d\]: shape attack is at t18, imo gogonuts [5d\]: but i think nothing works here Jazzman [1k\]: not s18? gogonuts [5d\]: so he might as well play p19 :-) Architect [2k\]: s18 works ] ;W[mc]C[Architect [2k\]: as i said... b dead Architect [2k\]: too much bad aji in n17 gogonuts [5d\]: w remining b of his 2nd weakness chibimin [-\]: q18 Poney [2d\]: White has a very nice style Poney [2d\]: Very proper hontono [1d\]: S18 doesn't work either gogonuts [5d\]: and i feel he added some spice to his solid game gogonuts [5d\]: a formidable opponent indianayk [4d\]: the situation was t18, t17,q18,q17,r17,s18,s19 for ko before p19 TP2014B [-\]: B was just about to play m18, but withdrew his hand. Backseeed [4d\]: but white didnt have to play like that indi gogonuts [5d\]: i think w would not have blocked at t17 TP2014B [-\]: here we go ] ;B[lb]C[gogonuts [5d\]: your our oracle sandbag [4d\]: q17 and b falls apart? ] ;W[na] ;B[jb]C[sandbag [4d\]: now b has to somehow manage to live in there gogonuts [5d\]: m16 right away? sandbag [4d\]: i probbly would gogonuts [5d\]: anttis advantage is that he can read it :-) yunoo: gives b a bunch of forcing moves tho ] ;W[ld]C[gogonuts [5d\]: we have to plonk it there, he can play it with assurance ] ;B[od]C[Javaness [2d\]: the difference between these two is not so great sandbag [4d\]: the difference is between them and us :D ] ;W[pc] ;B[qc]C[sandbag [4d\]: hmm with n19 sente b is alive Minjhou [7k?\]: uh oh CakeEater [1d\]: q19 Architect [2k\]: sure, they arent obssesed with blitz ] ;W[rb]C[Architect [2k\]: cuz of that they grow up ] ;B[kd] ;W[le]C[Ranchan [-\]: or they are smart and young Architect [2k\]: nah CakeEater [1d\]: i think black lose more point here ] ;B[ic]C[gogonuts [5d\]: and beautiful gogonuts [5d\]: and rich Ranchan [-\]: yup Jazzman [1k\]: snd they are not nuts, gogo :) Architect [2k\]: easy being smart, beauty and young if are already rich woodrose [1d\]: mmm no hontono [1d\]: nope sandbag [4d\]: they have to be nuts to play go that well :D Thoravatar [3d\]: r17 s18 must be a bad exchange woodrose [1d\]: good genes isnt something you buy woodrose [1d\]: yet woodrose [1d\]: because yes, smartness is genetic gogonuts [5d\]: there not good genes if everybody has them ] ;W[ke] ;B[gc]C[hontono [1d\]: actually ] ;W[gd]C[hontono [1d\]: that's nonsense ] ;B[fb]C[Javaness [2d\]: winning sequence hontono [1d\]: There just aren't any better ones if everyone's the same. ] ;W[hq]C[Architect [2k\]: there is the enviromental and genetic factors ] ;B[fr]C[Architect [2k\]: there is no way to deny it... some people just arent inteligent gogonuts [5d\]: we think in relations - the investmentbanker that makes a million is a poor sob if his buddies make 2 woodrose [1d\]: the potential is genetic, the way it develops is environmental hontono [1d\]: Nope. Architect [2k\]: hontono.. sorry but u are wrong.. hontono [1d\]: He's just not as rich. He's stil rich. yunoo: its all about astrology Ranchan [-\]: anyways back to the game Poney [2d\]: N9 looks big Ranchan [-\]: like 3 point big Poney [2d\]: Yeah coz you always calculate value like eating stones... ] ;W[nk]C[Poney [2d\]: See ] ;B[rh]C[gogonuts [5d\]: w could have tried f2 himself, but he didnt want to go wild and crazy with his slightly weak group in the center yunoo: b moves confident ] ;W[ph]C[Ranchan [-\]: o9 aint n9 ] ;B[ml]C[Poney [2d\]: Lol Ranchan ] ;W[mk]C[Poney [2d\]: You'd have answered the same Mariusz [2k\]: co to jest takapotku ] ;B[ol]C[woodrose [1d\]: what is n8 Ranchan [-\]: well, o9 is bigger than n9 ] ;W[ll]C[Architect [2k\]: who is ahead? ] ;B[jq]C[Lesmian [1d\]: to po fińsku odbitka ] ;W[jr]C[TP2014B [-\]: White is ahead Architect [2k\]: please no romen here ] ;B[ir]C[Mariusz [2k\]: dziękuję Lesmian Muttley [2k\]: 68 w + komi Muttley [2k\]: 58 b I get TP2014B [-\]: Black has been in byo-yomi for a while. White still has 4 minutes. Architect [2k\]: te rog sto! sandbag [4d\]: how do you get 68 for w :O ] ;W[iq] ;B[jp]C[Jazzman [1k\]: i gt 60 for w+ komi Muttley [2k\]: 40 top right ] ;W[hr]C[hontono [1d\]: B 51, W 64+ ] ;B[kr] ;W[is]C[Muttley [2k\]: 18 bottom ] ;B[lq] ;W[kp]C[Muttley [2k\]: 6 with living groups remaining ] ;B[ko] ;W[lp]C[gogonuts [5d\]: muttles count has been disturbed Muttley [2k\]: now, more ] ;B[mp] ;W[lo] ;B[mo] ;W[ln]C[Muttley [2k\]: trade NlsBlr [1d\]: b has about 60 Poney [2d\]: W's having a center now :) ] ;B[nq] ;W[ro]C[sandbag [4d\]: before this i counted w+komi laduradura [8d\]: but black gaind anything at all? Muttley [2k\]: I think w is going end up +10 on the board + komi Architect [2k\]: s3 feels unconfortable ] ;B[ik]C[Muttley [2k\]: sandbag, you may be right Muttley [2k\]: of course :0 hontono [1d\]: black is catching up... maybe x_x Muttley [2k\]: sometimes I count good, sometimes I count bad gogonuts [5d\]: lol ] ;W[or]C[chibimin [-\]: who's recording the game, btw? dutch2dan [1d\]: fate of a 2 kyu? jojotus [3d\]: a pity that jeff's commentary ended already ] ;B[im] ;W[hl]C[Poney [2d\]: W T6 ? ] ;B[io] ;W[lr] ;B[mr]C[hontono [1d\]: oho ] ;W[mq]C[chibimin [-\]: cool ] ;B[ea] ;W[ec] ;B[lq] ;W[ks]C[Architect [2k\]: a pro once said, as fast he started the ko, cho chikun already had counted all ko threats... yunoo: isnt b like.. ahead ] ;B[op] ;W[sn] ;B[sm]C[Architect [2k\]: cho's game analyzes method is nice ] ;W[so] ;B[rl] ;W[jd] ;B[kb]C[Architect [2k\]: b18 Architect [2k\]: biggest point ] ;W[il] ;B[go]C[sandbag [4d\]: b center still looks too weak :D f1230 [7d\]: no w wins f1230 [7d\]: too thick ] ;W[jk]C[f1230 [7d\]: from here black will not get a single point more but w will get many TP2014B [-\]: Both in byo-yomi. ] ;B[jj]C[HighStoner [4k\]: whoever plays b18 will win ;) ] ;W[nl]C[sandbag [4d\]: i agree with f1230 Muttley [2k\]: I guess w will play it then ] ;B[ok]C[gogonuts [5d\]: lol ] ;W[nm] ;B[om] ;W[bc] ;B[da] ;W[db] ;B[bd] ;W[ab] ;B[qr]C[Architect [2k\]: uhh ] ;W[rq]C[Architect [2k\]: a16 huge ko ] ;B[nr] ;W[pr] ;B[ni] ;W[nh] ;B[lh] ;W[lg] ;B[jh] ;W[ij] ;B[kk] ;W[hk] ;B[jl]C[Architect [2k\]: if b a15 sure ] ;W[ii]C[sandbag [4d\]: i guess w wins by at least 5 ] ;B[gi]C[Jazzman [1k\]: yeah, seems w won ] ;W[jm] ;B[ik]C[f1230 [7d\]: i think black should just resign f1230 [7d\]: too much suffering in this kind of yose:p ] ;W[kl]C[gogonuts [5d\]: he wont ] ;B[jk]C[trth: i think black should just quit go sandbag [4d\]: over now ] ;W[hj]C[Jazzman [1k\]: this is finnsih, but not the end TPStage1: no time to calculate, so they'll most likely play until the end ] ;B[km]C[Muttley [2k\]: loser has to buy drinks, F1230 Muttley [2k\]: do not resign. woodrose [1d\]: b should cease from existing ] ;W[lm]C[f1230 [7d\]: here white messed up.. ] ;B[kn] ;W[dh]C[f1230 [7d\]: quite big ] ;B[ad]C[f1230 [7d\]: this area should be white territority but he got eaten.. ] ;W[ai] ;B[bg]C[laduradura [8d\]: yeah in the the break at l2 as a succes ] ;W[hn]C[laduradura [8d\]: was ] ;B[in] ;W[ho] ;B[ip] ;W[hp] ;B[mh] ;W[li] ;B[kh]C[gogonuts [5d\]: w almost ahead with komi ] ;W[lk] ;B[ih] ;W[fh]C[CakeEater [1d\]: they play very ctrange yose ] ;B[gh]C[sandbag [4d\]: e14 ] ;W[pp]C[f1230 [7d\]: white suffers from the im winning yose.. ] ;B[no] ;W[rk] ;B[ql] ;W[gs]C[Adrian1023 [17k?\]: drgd Adrian1023 [17k?\]: jhkg ] ;B[sh] ;W[sf] ;B[fs] ;W[fo]C[Adrian1023 [17k?\]: i am 2d Architect [2k\]: good for u ] ;B[of] ;W[ng] ;B[ep]C[Arnaud99 [5k\]: I'm 5k gogonuts [5d\]: lol ] ;W[ef]C[matt383 [5k\]: i'm 4k in a bad period :D ] ;B[eg] ;W[ee]C[hontono [1d\]: too much information ] ;B[ma] ;W[pa] ;B[gp]C[sandbag [4d\]: I am 3d :O ] ;W[df] ;B[cf]C[Arnaud99 [5k\]: no you are sandbag ] ;W[dd] ;B[jf] ;W[ce]C[gogonuts [5d\]: hm. big win after all sandbag [4d\]: taht is why I say i am 3d ] ;B[be] ;W[jg]C[Architect [2k\]: mann.. Architect [2k\]: b must be carefull ] ;B[ff] ;W[kc] ;B[kf] ;W[lf] ;B[qg] ;W[pf] ;B[ac] ;W[bb] ;B[eh] ;W[ig] ;B[ei] ;W[fj] ;B[os] ;W[ps] ;B[ms]C[Architect [2k\]: k6 for fun ] ;W[ca] ;B[fa] ;W[jn]C[Architect [2k\]: m10 is sente btw ] ;B[jo] ;W[jm] ;B[jn] ;W[hm] ;B[jm] ;W[ji] ;B[kj] ;W[lj]C[hontono [1d\]: b's yose is not impressive yunoo: ops, i forgot the right corner, thats not even close ] ;B[hh] ;W[mq] ;B[qa]C[sandbag [4d\]: w wins easily ] ;W[pb] ;B[lq] ;W[ie] ;B[hf] ;W[mq] ;B[gn] ;W[lq]C[martin97 [-\]: the ko isnt big??? ] ;B[oq] ;W[mn]C[Jazzman [1k\]: just by k3 shape w "has" to win sandbag [4d\]: the ko was biggest Arnaud99 [5k\]: O10 Thoravatar [3d\]: 1.333 point, but no, other moves seem bigger ] ;B[ah] ;W[gr]C[laduradura [8d\]: more Beef [3d\]: w + 7.5 hontono [1d\]: W + 8.5? ] ;B[aj] ;W[ak] ;B[nj] ;W[de]C[TPStage1: komi is 7 Ranchan [-\]: komi is 7 leachy [2k\]: w by komi (=7?)exactly perhaps ] ;B[ns]C[Beef [3d\]: ah hontono [1d\]: ah ] ;W[ai] ;B[eo] ;W[fm] ;B[aj] ;W[ib] ;B[hb]C[TP2014B [-\]: yes, komi is 7.0 ] ;W[ai] ;B[rr] ;W[sr] ;B[aj] ;W[pn] ;B[oo] ;W[ai] ;B[sq] ;W[sp] ;B[aj]C[Jazzman [1k\]: w+10 ] ;W[qj] ;B[rj] ;W[ai]C[Thoravatar [3d\]: k19 is ko threat ] ;B[al] ;W[aj]C[gacua [1d\]: b will never win this ko ] ;B[gq] ;W[ls] ;B[mj] ;W[fe]C[Architect [2k\]: chinese ] ;B[gj]C[gnarf [1d\]: what rules is it? TP2014B [-\]: japanese Ranchan [-\]: w+9 gacua [1d\]: japanese as in options/rules ] ;W[]C[sandbag [4d\]: well done antti gnarf [1d\]: ok, thx. Why komi 7 than? any particular reason? TPStage1: because we can dutch2dan [1d\]: 7th Championship? TP2014B [-\]: It has always been 7 in Takapotku tournament hontono [1d\]: because black wins ties? leachy [2k\]: gg thanks for transcribing ;) gnarf [1d\]: ^^ ok Architect [2k\]: what is the result? jojotus [3d\]: hontono: no, jigo is possible Javaness [2d\]: kiitos TP2014B [-\]: White wins by 9. gacua [1d\]: W + 9 TPStage1: ties are handled as ties, half point for both players hontono [1d\]: i see Architect [2k\]: tty TP2014A [-\]: Thanks! TP2014B [-\]: Thank you for watching! TP2014A [-\]: Anti veri stong Kolibry [6k\]: thanks :) gnarf [1d\]: thx marionet [4k\]: is third round still today? jojotus [3d\]: tomorrow marionet [4k\]: ok thanks TP2014B [-\]: tomorrow. For the exact time see my info TP2014B [-\]: (They are in your local time) ])