(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
GN[European Pair Go Championship round 5 board 1]PW[Shikshina, Shikshin]PB[Kovaleva, Surin]WR[7d]BR[6d]DT[2014-05-04]EV[European Pair Go Championship round 5 board 1]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Pempu]
;B[pp]
;W[dd]
;B[cp]
;W[qe]
;B[fc]
;W[ic]
;B[od]
;W[qc]
;B[of]
;W[cf]
;B[qg]
;W[ob]
;B[dc]
;W[cc]
;B[cb]
;W[ec]
;B[db]
(;W[ed])
(;W[eb]
;B[ed]
;W[fb]
;B[cd]
;W[de]
;B[bd]
;W[gc]
;B[ip]
;W[nq]
;B[oq]
;W[np]
;B[pn]
;W[kq]
;B[jr]
;W[kr]
;B[jq]
;W[ko]
;B[eq]
;W[ql]
;B[qj]
;W[ol]
;B[ro]
;W[pi]
;B[pj]
;W[pg]
;B[pf]
;W[qf]C[Eilinen [-\]: Players?
]
;B[oi]
;W[qh]C[imperion [1d\]: genius
]
;B[og]
;W[ph]
;B[nj]
;W[ok]
;B[oj]
;W[ml]
;B[nm]
;W[mm]
;B[fd]
;W[gd]
;B[dj]
;W[mi]
;B[oh]
;W[mj]C[ProoMas [1d\]: s11
ProoMas [1d\]: then push through
]
;B[lg]
;W[kh]
;B[jf]
;W[le]
;B[lf]C[ProoMas [1d\]: this is painful to watch
]
;W[ke]C[ptitlou [2d\]: no video ?
Darkkk [1d\]: e14 
]
;B[nk]
;W[nl]
;B[jg]
;W[hg]
;B[pe]C[Darkkk [1d\]: s13
]
;W[pd]
;B[jh]
;W[bp]
;B[cq]
;W[cl]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: c8 genius move
]
;B[cn]
;W[el]
;B[fj]
;W[bj]
;B[ki]
;W[ci]C[anewtry [-\]: players are  Svetlana Shikshina Ilya Shikshin   Natalia Kovaleva  Dmitry Surin 
]
;B[pc]
;W[qd]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: is android client really with that bug about name of players?
]
;B[mk]C[EPGC2014b [?\]: We don't have a video stream
]
;W[hj]
;B[fl]C[ptitlou [2d\]: ok no pb
]
;W[dn]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: f9?
anewtry [-\]: i have no idea about the android client
]
;B[cm]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: d8
]
;W[dm]
;B[bl]
;W[ck]C[imperion [1d\]: g11 
anewtry [-\]: EPGC2014b,  are there any sgf files for the previous broadcasted matches?
]
;B[gm]
;W[co]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: what rank is kova?
]
;B[bo]C[anewtry [-\]: 6d
]
;W[do]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: ty
]
;B[bn]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: n17
Sampi [3d\]: im totally betting on w
kishimoto2 [2k\]: p2 is ok for now?
kishimoto2 [2k\]: or o2
ProoMas [1d\]: w is much much stronger
ProoMas [1d\]: white team could probably win with 4 stone handi...
]
;W[bq]
;B[br]C[Sampi [3d\]: plus, they're brother and sister
Sampi [3d\]: they have to understand each other very well
kishimoto2 [2k\]: who teach who?
ProoMas [1d\]: don't know if it's a plus lol
]
;W[go]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: i need to know some of the history of roln and shikshina
anewtry [-\]: shikshina is a 3p
ProoMas [1d\]: Shikshina is 3p, Shikshin 7d, but he wins against his sister more often than not...
kishimoto2 [2k\]: but who started playing go?
jsnd [2k?\]: on mobile, which are the shikshins?
bguricee [6d\]: roln is much stronger than shikshina
kishimoto2 [2k\]: first*
humbaba [1k\]: however, hasn't black more points?
kishimoto2 [2k\]: i think no
ptitlou [2d\]: shikshins are w jsnd
ProoMas [1d\]: black has nothing :|
Sampi [3d\]: their father taught them go from a young age
]
;B[in]C[vingol [1d\]: not when g7 in danger
kishimoto2 [2k\]: i see sampi
kishimoto2 [2k\]: thanks
jsnd [2k?\]: I have their fathers book on shape
humbaba [1k\]: right
ProoMas [1d\]: who's their father?
kishimoto2 [2k\]: some chinese 9p
ProoMas [1d\]: really?
kishimoto2 [2k\]: no :D
anewtry [-\]: :D
jsnd [2k?\]: Russian
Sampi [3d\]: russian 5/6d i think
]
;W[fp]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: russians are very good
EPGC2014b [?\]: Valery shiksin I think
]
;B[kl]C[EPGC2014b [?\]: father I mean
kishimoto2 [2k\]: roln is the stronggest ?
Sampi [3d\]: for sure ;)
EPGC2014b [?\]: very strong
]
;W[jm]C[Sampi [3d\]: roln is the strongest player in europe imo
tetsuo [1k\]: his sisteris strongr than him:)
kishimoto2 [2k\]: its too much for my mind
ProoMas [1d\]: one of the strongest
]
;B[ep]
;W[eo]C[anewtry [-\]: kovaleva is also a good player here 
ProoMas [1d\]: roln has won egc in 2011 and 2010
kishimoto2 [2k\]: roln is stronger than catalin?
anewtry [-\]: she is one of the strogest female player in europe
]
;B[fq]C[troll [2d\]: ooh, just noticed, pavol lissy has surpassed dinerstein in gors
kishimoto2 [2k\]: pavol = cheater?
troll [2d\]: ya
kishimoto2 [2k\]: nice
kishimoto2 [2k\]: when o2?
]
;W[hm]C[ProoMas [1d\]: 2012, Ilja finished 3rd, while some koreans took 1st and 2nd places
bguricee [6d\]: roln vs catalin: 3-3
Sampi [3d\]: those koreans didnt live in europe though
kishimoto2 [2k\]: why roln is not pro yet?
]
;B[hl]C[troll [2d\]: because he is too weak to become a korean pro
Sampi [3d\]: he dropped out of the european pro qualifying tournament for some reason
]
;W[im]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: the pro rank would be so good for roln
]
;B[ik]C[ProoMas [1d\]: well
]
;W[ij]C[ProoMas [1d\]: does it change anything?
kishimoto2 [2k\]: i think somehow
troll [2d\]: proomas, it does actually, then he can participate in pro tournaments
kishimoto2 [2k\]: pro tournaments will be so nice
ProoMas [1d\]: oh please tell me how many pro tournaments are there in Europe :|
kishimoto2 [2k\]: on korea 
kishimoto2 [2k\]: he is trying to be korean pro ?
troll [2d\]: he would obviously participate in the asian ones
Bsea [2k\]: G9 huge
ProoMas [1d\]: yeah, but that's not so easy.
ProoMas [1d\]: to travel half across the world
ProoMas [1d\]: for a tournament :|
kishimoto2 [2k\]: he already got sponsoring 
kishimoto2 [2k\]: no problem
kishimoto2 [2k\]: parentosoring
kishimoto2 [2k\]: XD
]
;B[fn]
;W[fo]
;B[jk]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: g9
pok [2d\]: g9 f9 g8 g10 h9 h12 b connects
]
;W[gq]
;B[gr]
;W[hr]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: connects?
]
;B[hq]
;W[hp]
;B[gp]C[pok [2d\]: mmh
pok [2d\]: actualy not :D
kishimoto2 [2k\]: xD
]
;W[gk]C[pok [2d\]: g9ok then
pok [2d\]: ah
]
;B[fk]
;W[gq]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: uh oh
kishimoto2 [2k\]: this ko smells like a bonus
]
;B[hs]
;W[iq]
;B[ir]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: o2 never play?
]
;W[hq]
;B[ho]
;W[gp]C[daniug [2d\]: is this second round of today?
]
;B[kp]
;W[lp]
;B[jp]
;W[or]
;B[pr]
;W[fr]
;B[gs]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: c2
kishimoto2 [2k\]: nv,m
kishimoto2 [2k\]: h12 is ok?
]
;W[dp]
;B[dq]
;W[cr]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: meh not
troll [2d\]: ko but..
kishimoto2 [2k\]: hoe ko
kishimoto2 [2k\]: how
troll [2d\]: oh, no ko
troll [2d\]: b can just a3
]
;B[dr]
;W[bs]C[pok [2d\]: d1 work for w too
]
;B[cs]
;W[ar]C[troll [2d\]: which he doesnt do because.. urm.. there is a squeeze?
pok [2d\]: instead of b1 
]
;B[as]C[mayumi [3d\]: k4 would die
pok [2d\]: w had d1 c1 e1 c2 a2 a4 j1 k1 k5 j5 h6 a3 k6 e2 l1 
]
;W[is]
;B[js]
;W[bs]C[pok [2d\]: instead of b1 
pok [2d\]: which was no ko
pok [2d\]: and 7 captured stones
pok [2d\]: oh nvm , d1 e1 j1 
pok [2d\]: so ko best option ^^
kishimoto2 [2k\]: b is really suffering
pok [2d\]: d1 c1 e1 j1 *
humbaba [1k\]: no ko threat..
rollstory [1k\]: c2 is the only
kishimoto2 [2k\]: thats really painful
]
;B[ap]
;W[cr]C[anewtry [-\]: looks over
BraKet [2k\]: d1
kishimoto2 [2k\]: maybe b18 threat is huge
]
;B[lo]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: m5 looks tenukable
anewtry [-\]: no tenuki
BraKet [2k\]: hmm
]
;W[ds]C[anewtry [-\]: lol
kishimoto2 [2k\]: w rich
kishimoto2 [2k\]: xD
Minjhou [10k\]: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo7ry5YAUX1qkt3l6.jpg
]
;B[kn]C[BraKet [2k\]: now b has to kill everything in return
kishimoto2 [2k\]: and l6 cant
imperion [1d\]: res
BraKet [2k\]: who is it that played d1? Shikshina or Shikshin?
kishimoto2 [2k\]: p4 first imo
kishimoto2 [2k\]: n5*
]
;W[mo]
;B[ln]
;W[mq]
;B[lr]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: p4
]
;W[mr]C[BraKet [2k\]: why p4
]
;B[ks]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: cus its fun
]
;W[lq]C[BraKet [2k\]: XD
]
;B[nn]
;W[mn]
;B[ls]
;W[jn]C[Leonidas [2k\]: d1 -> 152 mod 4 = 0, so whoever played 4th move played 152 also
ProoMas [1d\]: yup
]
;B[jo]C[kishimoto2 [2k\]: agreed
ProoMas [1d\]: w to kill all
]
;W[km]C[ProoMas [1d\]: res
salty [2d\]: over
daniug [2d\]: kill em all
MaLa [3d\]: gege
BraKet [2k\]: leonidas u believe I've made the same calculus right before XD
kishimoto2 [2k\]: nice killl
kishimoto2 [2k\]: gg
BraKet [2k\]: w couple is invincible
ProoMas [1d\]: they're not a couple lol
EPGC2014b [?\]: B resigns
EPGC2014b [?\]: thx for great kibiz :)
ProoMas [1d\]: how surprizing
ProoMas [1d\]: =D
ProoMas [1d\]: thanks
BraKet [2k\]: of course they are ù.ù
BraKet [2k\]: in secret
kishimoto2 [2k\]: th'yre brothers
ProoMas [1d\]: like Lannisters
kishimoto2 [2k\]: xd
ProoMas [1d\]: ^^
BraKet [2k\]: ah
BraKet [2k\]: lo
BraKet [2k\]: lol
kishimoto2 [2k\]: HAHAHa
kishimoto2 [2k\]: tthey are mafia 
kishimoto2 [2k\]: don't mess with them
ProoMas [1d\]: Then Shikshina will go on to give birth to the worst attitude go player ever, which will win Honinbo Title and someone will poision him
TuLy [4k\]: res?
andreiraz [2k\]: Where can we find the results?
BraKet [2k\]: lol
]))
