(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
GN[Takapotku Open 2013 Round 2 Board 2]PW[Su Yang]PB[Janne Kössö]WR[6d]BR[4d]DT[2013-06-08]EV[Takapotku Open]RO[2]PC[Helsinki, Finland]US[Suteishi]
;B[qd]
;W[dc]
;B[pq]
;W[dp]C[Javaness [2d\]: excellent, Kosso the Killer
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;B[nc]C[backpack1 [2d\]: JeffChang! this will be a nice game
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: indeed
SirEttin [1d\]: does w stand a chance?
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;W[pn]C[backpack1 [2d\]: lol, i put all my money on white ;)
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;B[qp]C[Javaness [2d\]: I wouldn't say that white is that much stronger
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;W[jq]
;B[pk]C[selpahi [1k\]: i keep seeing q6 recently
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;W[jc]
;B[cf]
;W[cd]
;B[ci]
;W[ck]C[ranyee [3k\]: w has had half a board already
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: C3 starting to look very tempting
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;B[ef]
;W[dg]
;B[df]
;W[gd]C[Javaness [2d\]: enter! enter!
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;B[ei]C[YogSothoth [1k\]: c6 now
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: E11 feels slow, i think i would've just taken the corner
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;W[cn]C[Javaness [2d\]: E11 quite proper though
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: true
Ranchan [1k\]: e2 
Javaness [2d\]: black could consider a cornery move in the top right
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i just personally don't like letting W take C6 :)
ranyee [3k\]: k10
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;B[jo]C[YogSothoth [1k\]: Did w really have a good play on bottom side?
YogSothoth [1k\]: why not just leave it alone?
Banaan [1k\]: is there a live broadcast for this board?
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;W[lp]C[cwelsh [?\]: seem s not
bobstep [2d?\]: does su yang have a kbs user name?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i like K5 by B. Again not to my liking to let W have it
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: you mean kgs?
Klor [1k\]: finnish8d
bobstep [2d?\]: yes
ranyee [3k\]: m4 excelent
Banaan [1k\]: he has multiple
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: jeffchang
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: most known
Banaan [1k\]: finnish8d, jeffchang
cwelsh [?\]: finnish8d is more active
dfghdf [5d?\]: prefer L4, letting w build up is no issue due to low stones at left
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;B[lo]C[SirEttin [1d\]: i thought w is chinese 
cwelsh [?\]: he is, but lives in finland now
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;W[mo]
;B[mp]
;W[lq]C[Tania [1d\]: b just makes problems for himself
medical [3k\]: is b o4 the only choice?
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;B[mq]C[medical [3k\]: seems like not..
melmak: i like o4 more
pogopuschl [5d?\]: why
melmak: cause of n2 now
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;W[op]C[YogSothoth [1k\]: who considered this move?
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;B[nr]C[YogSothoth [1k\]: p4 I mean
ZeNit [?\]: o4 very kyuish move
xio [5k\]: good, two tournament games with stronger player on w!
melmak: and this is dan like?
Tania [1d\]: yes
ZeNit [?\]: yeah
xio [5k\]: shusaku kosumi pro
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;W[ko]
;B[ln]
;W[kn]
;B[km]
;W[jn]
;B[lm]
;W[qo]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Su Yang smiling as he played this move
Banaan [1k\]: cheeky.
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;B[pp]
;W[rp]
;B[rq]C[ranyee [3k\]: who is leading?
ranyee [3k\]: b?
Klor [1k\]: is that an indication of overplay or was he just content with his move?
Banaan [1k\]: depends on what happens next, ranyee
pogopuschl [5d?\]: That is impossible.
ranyee [3k\]: is e2 still open?
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;W[qm]C[rats [2d?\]: of course
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;B[qk]
;W[rn]C[SirEttin [1d\]: w has a clear adventage
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: L16 is a nice way to start making a big moyo for B
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;B[er]C[ranyee [3k\]: 3k move
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;W[dr]C[Ashpole [13k\]: lol
oasthouse [-\]: t4 first?
SirEttin [1d\]: this is going to die
ranyee [3k\]: playing such moves w will lose
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;B[dq]C[rats [2d?\]: su yang is going for 3rd championship in a row
SirEttin [1d\]: who's leading the tournament
snowman [-\]: this is the 2nd round...
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;W[eq]
;B[cq]
;W[cr]
;B[ep]
;W[fq]
;B[cp]
;W[do]
;B[fr]
;W[br]
;B[gq]
;W[fp]
;B[go]
;W[fo]
;B[fn]C[SirEttin [1d\]: b misplaced the stone?
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;W[hr]
;B[gp]
;W[eo]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i misclicked the 59 :)
SirEttin [1d\]: H7
rats [2d?\]: su yang still extremely territorial it seems
SirEttin [1d\]: rats!
dfghdf [5d?\]: as always
jungtsoyde: iiii am the swoooord master
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;B[gl]C[k23 [3k\]: now this hurt b moyo
jungtsoyde: i think b is pretty confortable
bobstep [2d?\]: yeah, it's a nice chair
jungtsoyde: w should play a move like on p15 i guess
k23 [3k\]: h6 then j8 making pressure on b group?
jungtsoyde: h6 yes, but a tenuki by b could force extremely invasion
snowman [-\]: if black is allowed to connect G2, white might need to defend
jungtsoyde: for sure p15 now
jungtsoyde: i am like 101% sure
oasthouse [-\]: w may g2
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;W[rl]C[jungtsoyde: :-)
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;B[gr]
;W[io]C[snowman [-\]: sigh
rats [2d?\]: now white can j8 directly
jungtsoyde: s8 was smart
k23 [3k\]: yes true rat
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;B[il]C[jungtsoyde: b don't have good moves at all
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;W[qf]C[jungtsoyde: this should be enough for the win
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;B[oe]C[jungtsoyde: pretty deep move imo
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: justified with the S8 there
Zahlman [1k\]: they're playing pretty fast hmm?
rats [2d?\]: it's like a probe to begin with anyway
jungtsoyde: w should play like on p15 to create basis to run tower the center and have no dunger at bad aji at  h14
Zahlman [1k\]: just r11?
rats [2d?\]: since the top right corner not totally strong
jungtsoyde: pretty weird for white
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Zahlman yea they play fairly fast
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: B has 38m W has 33m
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;W[of]
;B[pe]C[jungtsoyde: w only gain is to try to squeeze q9 stones
jungtsoyde: but seems hardish
jungtsoyde: too busy living with r14
Zahlman [1k\]: aiming at o9 ;)
goren2 [2k\]: s16?
k23 [3k\]: o9 seems nice move
jungtsoyde: w can try first o15
jungtsoyde: he still have s10 jump
rats [2d?\]: r11 now is fairly safe
jungtsoyde: O15 could be very usefull for w
jungtsoyde: even if b cuts, easy to profit
pojki [5d\]: r12..
Zahlman [1k\]: if w doesn't connect, what did the p14/q15 exchange accomplish?
rats [2d?\]: a lot
Zahlman [1k\]: feels to me like b is thicker, w is not
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;W[pi]C[SirEttin [1d\]: ear-redding move?
Zahlman [1k\]: o_O
jungtsoyde: i liked that
Zahlman [1k\]: weird shape
rats [2d?\]: s11 later is good for w :p
jungtsoyde: i think b should just tenuki and start something against g16
jungtsoyde: cus in that way b has no chance
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;B[ri]C[Zahlman [1k\]: haha, now there will be blood
jungtsoyde: lol
jungtsoyde: s11 great one
jungtsoyde: solid enuf to hunt and hurts g16
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;W[qh]C[jungtsoyde: give me some ice cream now
Zahlman [1k\]: how does it hurt g16?
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;B[nf]
;W[rk]C[jungtsoyde: w must live and for sure its moving to the left
rats [2d?\]: if you have some magic mushrooms, please share them with the rest of us
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;B[qj]C[Zahlman [1k\]: hmm
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;W[ok]
;B[ol]C[jungtsoyde: moving to the left is taking near to g16 so everything can happen, b its too hard to say
]
;W[nk]C[jungtsoyde: JUST A predict
NiceGoAuth [-\]: very black blood
Zahlman [1k\]: yeah, I got it
Zahlman [1k\]: it gets ugly now though, b shape just gets worse
Zahlman [1k\]: but has enough thickness to get away with it I think
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;B[pl]
;W[nl]
;B[om]
;W[nm]
;B[on]
;W[nn]C[Zahlman [1k\]: oh that's gross...\\
rats [2d?\]: lol
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;B[oo]C[jungtsoyde: hehhhh
rats [2d?\]: k7
goren2 [2k\]: k7
Zahlman [1k\]: I guess t4 got bigger :)
Zahlman [1k\]: but not relevant now
foeZ [-\]: oooh, jeff chang
foeZ [-\]: me gusta
jungtsoyde: jeff chang??
foeZ [-\]: yes, su yang
foeZ [-\]: finnish8d on kgs
foeZ [-\]: he was my teacher for a while
foeZ [-\]: also the organiser of the former experience go in china
foeZ [-\]: i don't think it exists anymore
Zahlman [1k\]: how do you get from su yang to jeff chang
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;W[ng]C[foeZ [-\]: don't know lol, he uses jeff chang as his english name
jungtsoyde: preparing k7 is very very very cruel to wait
Lacrimosa [?\]: he used that name before
Zahlman [1k\]: hane again
Gardan [?\]: jeff is western name .. many chinese take one when interacting with western people ..
jungtsoyde: n13 n14 o15 n12 m13 k7 right?
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;B[ni]C[jungtsoyde: LOL!
Zahlman [1k\]: sounds good to me... what?!
goren2 [2k\]: jeff might be western, but chang is not
Gardan [?\]: its surname
Zahlman [1k\]: 4d so creative
goren2 [2k\]: his surname is yang
Zahlman [1k\]: still, it's a shape point...
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: O11 was an obvious shape breaker
Gardan [?\]: arg .. my bad
jungtsoyde: i think now if l9 n11  b got squeeze
foeZ [-\]: https://www.facebook.com/su.yang.925?fref=ts <--- that's him
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i figured O13 W would've been O11
jungtsoyde: but i read it wrong
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;W[mf]
;B[oj]C[jungtsoyde: EHHimm
pogopuschl [5d?\]: Last year, Su Yang won even though Antti Tormänen beat him in the last round.
pogopuschl [5d?\]: Interesting.
Zahlman [1k\]: compromise? o_O
Lacrimosa [?\]: black likes to kill, but it doesn't work so well against stronger players
goren2 [2k\]: wish i could accesss facebook in the great prc...
bobstep [2d?\]: just get a vpn
Zahlman [1k\]: if the lower part can escape b will feel foolish
Gingersnap [7k\]: surely h14 black is huge
Zahlman [1k\]: but I guess w plan to just reduce and play endgame now... ?
Gingersnap [7k\]: H15*
foeZ [-\]: l8 still has a cut
foeZ [-\]: so im sure white can force something
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;W[mi]
;B[mh]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: this is getting decenly complex
snowman [-\]: jeff forgot to play a good shape
foeZ [-\]: by the way EuroGoTV2, how strong are you these days? Still 1d?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: my thoughts as well
goren2 [2k\]: o10
jungtsoyde: are you harry?
poipoim: EuroGoTV is the best!
jungtsoyde: harry is pretty funny
costins [2k\]: who is jeff?
foeZ [-\]: jeff = su yang
jungtsoyde: no camera?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: yea my official rank is 1d
foeZ [-\]: finnish8d ok kgs
foeZ [-\]: nice
snowman [-\]: and who's harry :)
duckduck: a wizard
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;W[mj]C[bobstep [2d?\]: eurogo
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: <- Suteishi
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: TV1 is lupis
snowman [-\]: this is a licensed broadcast
Zahlman [1k\]: ... so connect obviously....
oasthouse [-\]: m12
pojki [5d\]: q14
jungtsoyde: this is going to hurt, if w cuts and kill it will be ridiculously ridiculous
Zahlman [1k\]: cut what?
foeZ [-\]: l8 still there
foeZ [-\]: :)
jungtsoyde: k7
Zahlman [1k\]: oh right
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: foeZ, do i know you?
foeZ [-\]: haha, probably
Zahlman [1k\]: yeah w is still aimed at that clearly
oasthouse [-\]: b m12, w protects centre then b o15
Gouda [?\]: black better
Zahlman [1k\]: it got hard for b
jungtsoyde: i trust on your reading boys
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;B[jm]C[foeZ [-\]: there go
Zahlman [1k\]: oho
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;W[nh]C[Zahlman [1k\]: wow
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;B[lr]C[oasthouse [-\]: :(
jungtsoyde: mama mia
Zahlman [1k\]: b good danger sense, but now feels very silly
foeZ [-\]: gut feeling says L3 is a living shape
jungtsoyde: b was hoping k7 was sente 
goren2 [2k\]: k4
Zahlman [1k\]: living should not be hard here
Zahlman [1k\]: ... hmm
Zahlman [1k\]: maybe it is :)
snowman [-\]: :)
costins [2k\]: actually m2 is sente
suerte [3k\]: no kidding :)
snowman [-\]: maybe not :)
SirEttin [1d\]: dead
k23 [3k\]: yes
jungtsoyde: looks dead
k23 [3k\]: it seems
rats [2d?\]: ouch
jungtsoyde: can't believe
jungtsoyde: lol
foeZ [-\]: i don't see that group dieing though
suerte [3k\]: mmh, if M2 kills, then you're right, it's not sente
foeZ [-\]: then agian, i have the life & death skills of a 20k
Klor [1k\]: can't happen, must be a way
Zahlman [1k\]: k4 seems strongest attempt to live?
jyka [2k\]: w resign
jyka [2k\]: thanks for watching
SirEttin [1d\]: thx 
jungtsoyde: first h6 
Klor [1k\]: go home
jungtsoyde: LOL jyka
pojki [5d\]: w is just lookng for the best way to live, not how to live :)
suerte [3k\]: Janne “Killer” Kössö ? :)
jungtsoyde: h6 is the only moveee
ddUsopp [2k\]: k4 works no?
jyka [2k\]: k4
jungtsoyde: play ittttt
jungtsoyde: ^^
foeZ [-\]: pojki is probably right
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: k4 the logical starting point but..
snowman [-\]: white should have played G2 a long time ago...
Lacrimosa [?\]: suerte, kind of
jungtsoyde: lol Pojki
jungtsoyde: u must be right
jungtsoyde: this can't be a misread
Jacobs [2k\]: l3
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: this looks dead to me
Jacobs [2k\]: l3
snowman [-\]: L3, K4, then what
jungtsoyde: are ya sure?
pojki [5d\]: k4 - L4 - K2 is quite alive
pojki [5d\]: uh K4 - L3 - K2
jungtsoyde: yup k2 makes life
snowman [-\]: after K2, L4
goren2 [2k\]: does itmake sense to play h6 first?
jungtsoyde: i think no
Gingersnap [7k\]: is this game without time limits?
pojki [5d\]: h6 first is good
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;W[jp]
;B[kq]
;W[kp]C[jungtsoyde: what
SirEttin [1d\]: ko
pojki [5d\]: but not necessary
Zahlman [1k\]: !
jungtsoyde: w read it
goren2 [2k\]: tks
goren2 [2k\]: w k2?
jakontin [1k\]: j2?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Ginger no
pojki [5d\]: h5 threatens to cut too
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: B has 35m and W 23m left
landrover [5k\]: B k2
Gingersnap [7k\]: odd, I can't see it displayed.
oasthouse [-\]: l2
jyka [2k\]: h6 ?
ddUsopp [2k\]: dead
Zahlman [1k\]: that's because the game is copied by hand, gingersnap
SirEttin [1d\]: cut
Gingersnap [7k\]: ahhh, thanks
jungtsoyde: w is looking for h6 in a crazy way of libs
BlindTaub [1k\]: go Jeff!
jungtsoyde: then it makes sense for not playing h6 1st
Zahlman [1k\]: but it's b's turn...
jungtsoyde: yea k2
oasthouse [-\]: L2 then looks dead
jungtsoyde: h6 is the secret bro
ddUsopp [2k\]: w dead here
oasthouse [-\]: h6 g6, how does that help?
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;B[kr]C[jungtsoyde: watch for h7
]
;W[jr]C[ddUsopp [2k\]: h3 
hyomin [3d\]: go jeff
jungtsoyde: JEFFF!
foeZ [-\]: who's janne kosso btw?
hyomin [3d\]: 4 dan from oulu
hyomin [3d\]: he's really strong
Naab [5k\]: I believe he's stronger than 4d :p
]
;B[hp]C[hyomin [3d\]: his nickname is Arctic on kgs
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: hyomin is correct
Backflash [-\]: Janne sounds like woman's name
Zahlman [1k\]: whoa
snowman [-\]: nice move :)
Zahlman [1k\]: what is this shape O_o
dfghdf [5d?\]: Janne is a very male name in scandinavia
oasthouse [-\]: yea h4 good
foeZ [-\]: the empty triangle of doom
jungtsoyde: time for cut!!!
snowman [-\]: like a dagger
jungtsoyde: and lib race
BlindTaub [1k\]: what is Jeff up to
oasthouse [-\]: b played really nicely
BlindTaub [1k\]: he must have a plan
Zahlman [1k\]: cut how?
jungtsoyde: h6 g6 h7 g7 h8 h9 
Backflash [-\]: dfghdf yea, comes from Jan, finish variant just sounds like womans name
oasthouse [-\]: w will tenuki
Zahlman [1k\]: what if h7 answered at f9?
suerte [3k\]: h4 is quite a funny move :)
oasthouse [-\]: h4 really nice :)
costins [2k\]: h4 is a killing move
Backflash [-\]: k4 looks like jiraffe bowing
snowman [-\]: i'm sure white is laughing
jungtsoyde: then push and cut j8
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: snowman, actually he looks pretty serious
jyka [2k\]: dead
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: worried i would say
snowman [-\]: it's not that funny, then
suerte [3k\]: Janne “Killer” Kössö indeed
hyomin [3d\]: the kössö effect is taking over jeff
jungtsoyde: ok w looks very troubled after F9
jungtsoyde: XDDD
Zahlman [1k\]: ^^
jungtsoyde: oh no
jungtsoyde: zahlman
pojki [5d\]: well the group was not dead, white just did not manage to solve the life and death problem :)
jungtsoyde: i find a solution
jungtsoyde: just make eye and u have atari 
Fluttershy [?\]: pojki, care to elaborate?
foeZ [-\]: why is this game not being broadcast but the one on tv1 instead with the "weaker" players?
Zahlman [1k\]: it's probably more reading than I can understand right now...
Zahlman [1k\]: need to sleep soon
jungtsoyde: after white f6, white j7
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;W[im]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: foez, because this is board 2
Zahlman [1k\]: h7 here surely?
Gouda [?\]: w want semeai
suerte [3k\]: K2 instead of L4 made life I think
foeZ [-\]: not enough bandwidth to stream both?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Backflash: to be more precise it's a biblical name and comes from Jahve
martin97 [1d\]: more like h6
fye [3d\]: H8
jungtsoyde: this looks strange
pojki [5d\]: k9
ddUsopp [2k\]: h8 
oasthouse [-\]: k9
laoky [4d\]: h6 
pojki [5d\]: w is trying to make ko
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: we barely managed to get board 1 broadcasted witha cellphone
Naab [5k\]: I'm worried, kössö isn't a very killer type of a player
foeZ [-\]: haha ok, fair enough ^^
snowman [-\]: that's not a ko, that's a mark of desperation
oasthouse [-\]: h8
Backflash [-\]: what ko?
Backflash [-\]: w just dead
ddUsopp [2k\]: after h8 if k8  just k9 l8 m9 
pojki [5d\]: white is hoping for H7 - H6 - G5 - K8
ddUsopp [2k\]: h8 nice here
foeZ [-\]: how much time do they have left?
Zahlman [1k\]: ko to cut at k8
oasthouse [-\]: ddUsopp, right
ddUsopp [2k\]: not agressive, safe move
Backflash [-\]: im not even waiting for miracles here
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: B 31m W 19m
Gingersnap [7k\]: why not just b H6?
hyomin [3d\]: h8 looks proper
oasthouse [-\]: h8 is 100% clean
pojki [5d\]: so black has to play k9 or H8
Naab [5k\]: h6 gives some aji :o
snowman [-\]: H7 is proper, humiliating move
Backflash [-\]: yea, i vote for h7 
jungtsoyde: btw why w did not played the sequence > h6 g6 h7 f9 j7 h5 h8 ?
costins [2k\]: h7 -> ko
jungtsoyde: seems better than this
kentia [1d\]: wow can't believe w messed up like this
SirEttin [1d\]: how is w's facial expression?
snowman [-\]: in finland, we don't call that a ko
jungtsoyde: japanese
goren2 [2k\]: h7 could be ko, so i dont think b will play it
Zahlman [1k\]: after k8 cut, seems b could shibori even without the ko
suerte [3k\]: he looks like an Ettin right now :(
foeZ [-\]: su yang is chinese :p
jyka [2k\]: tenuki here
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: kinda hard to read W face atm. He seems normal
Zahlman [1k\]: but h8 looking better to me than h7 now
Backflash [-\]: his expression is japaneese
jyka [2k\]: gote death
jungtsoyde: hahahaha
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: B however seems to be reading deep
selpahi [1k\]: h8 h3 .. ?
jyka [2k\]: gote death right ?
hyomin [3d\]: that sounds bad for jeff
jungtsoyde: chinese with japanese expression = feeling very very nervous
Backflash [-\]: i'd cower in fear and play k9 here
Zahlman [1k\]: I doubt it's gote death
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;B[hm]C[Backflash [-\]: hoho
snowman [-\]: black is calculating his achieved gor points
ddUsopp [2k\]: lol)))
Zahlman [1k\]: here we go
goren2 [2k\]: so ko it is I guess
ddUsopp [2k\]: why not just h8?))
jungtsoyde: 995 step ko
jyka [2k\]: no ko bro
ddUsopp [2k\]: ko
Backflash [-\]: it is not a ko if there is no 2nd eye
Zahlman [1k\]: I guess not h8 because of some nonsense with h6 sente and trying to make an eye... ?
jungtsoyde: h6 g6 k8 KOKOKO bro
ddUsopp [2k\]: h6 g6 k8 k9 l8 m9 j9 
Zahlman [1k\]: the ko is to cut k8
Backflash [-\]: is it even a cut?
selpahi [1k\]: with h8 it wasn't
SirEttin [1d\]: can w tenuki
kentia [1d\]: dont look so great cut to me
Zahlman [1k\]: k8 k9 l8 m9 j9 h8 l9 l10 k10 m8 k9 m10 etc
jungtsoyde: don't forget the incredible local threats w has inside for makes eye
Zahlman [1k\]: shibori
GoldRoger7 [2d\]: ko for nothing w dead
jungtsoyde: lol
SIscurge [5d\]: such a clean kill
Backflash [-\]: if w let's b grow that stick w dies elsewhere, im not seeing somehting again i guess
jungtsoyde: w failed so
jungtsoyde: with just k2 instead of connecting, it was sad
StepbyStep [5d\]: no way for white here all black connected
Javaness [2d\]: kosso so strong
SirEttin [1d\]: G14?
jungtsoyde: he is but w failed harder
]
;W[rd]
;B[rc]C[Zahlman [1k\]: time move?
Naab [5k\]: yes, I expect kössö to get 5d promotion >:3
]
;W[hn]C[jungtsoyde: playing some moves out for relax a bit
]
;B[gn]
;W[jl]C[Javaness [2d\]: I am so going to buy the Oulu joseki dictionary now
]
;B[in]
;W[qe]C[Zahlman [1k\]: oh, making ko threats?
jungtsoyde: Oulu joseki?
]
;B[pc]
;W[im]C[jungtsoyde: what is this
]
;B[jk]
;W[kl]
;B[in]C[Zahlman [1k\]: surely q17 should be r17
oasthouse [-\]: b n12 stone helps him get out
snowman [-\]: entertainment
oasthouse [-\]: :)
Backflash [-\]: finnish joseki dictionary i bet
goren2 [2k\]: i"m not sure it was kosso doing something very well but rather su yang totally tenuking a big threat
jyka [2k\]: j3
suechan [6d\]: 100 step ko
suechan [6d\]: j3 die
jungtsoyde: suechan is right
suechan [6d\]: j3 h5
jungtsoyde: cus 6d 
Zahlman [1k\]: all these steps and b gets to shibori during it too
jungtsoyde: suechan how ya fell?
jungtsoyde: what is a shibori?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: btw the empty triangle count is: B 3 W 0
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and who says you can't win with empty triangles?
Banaan [1k\]: lol
suechan [6d\]: senseis.xmp.net
Banaan [1k\]: lol
martin97 [1d\]: its 4-0
Backflash [-\]: i see only one empty triangle q3 
rats [2d?\]: h4 was 2 in 1, so it's twice as fast
martin97 [1d\]: r3 h5 h3 q10 r8 
SirEttin [1d\]: 5-0
martin97 [1d\]: 6
]
;W[js]C[Zahlman [1k\]: I see at least 6
selpahi [1k\]: 6
Backflash [-\]: others are not empty
martin97 [1d\]: h3 h5 r3 q10 r8 q7 
Zahlman [1k\]: yeah, 6.
SirEttin [1d\]: 6-5
jungtsoyde: WHAT
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Q3 was played empty, so was R10 and H4
jungtsoyde: w is genius
GoldRoger7 [2d\]: ...
StepbyStep [5d\]: lol
suechan [6d\]: take
ddUsopp [2k\]: lol)))
GoldRoger7 [2d\]: yes
ddUsopp [2k\]: w new fail)
jungtsoyde: this is so gotish
suechan [6d\]: ah no
goren2 [2k\]: jung, please, man, lay off the bong
rats [2d?\]: if take then h4
Zahlman [1k\]: lol, threaten to make eye, but resolving ko threatens to remove one
jungtsoyde: ok goren
StepbyStep [5d\]: black pressure
jungtsoyde: sorry
rats [2d?\]: j4 i mean
suechan [6d\]: h5 j4 
dfghdf [5d?\]: dead
]
;B[iq]C[hyomin [3d\]: w lives if take
Backflash [-\]: it s not a threat ?
suechan [6d\]: j3 
]
;W[im]C[suechan [6d\]: ok
snowman [-\]: it's a threat all right
]
;B[lk]C[Zahlman [1k\]: oh, I see
dfghdf [5d?\]: oh, black cannot take right
]
;W[ik]C[Backflash [-\]: take the ko and j4? hm
]
;B[in]C[Zahlman [1k\]: h5 j4 h1 h3
]
;W[ir]C[jungtsoyde: how is this possible
snowman [-\]: but this must be frustrating for white
]
;B[hs]
;W[im]
;B[hl]C[fye [3d\]: black may not even need the ko eventually
GoldRoger7 [2d\]: b can go away
]
;W[kk]
;B[in]C[Kallem [20k\]: yeah
Javaness [2d\]: squeeze me
snowman [-\]: it's not a ko...
Backflash [-\]: oh i see now, h3 there was
SirEttin [1d\]: k10
jungtsoyde: deluxe ko
GoldRoger7 [2d\]: k10 not bad for w i think
Zahlman [1k\]: j4 doesn't even work now as a threat if I'm thinking straight
]
;W[jj]C[jungtsoyde: can w win with k10?
Backflash [-\]: h3 does?
rats [2d?\]: traded
]
;B[im]C[jungtsoyde: if this works, w is for sure a genius 
oasthouse [-\]: maybe b should have played out the squeeze
]
;W[fh]C[snowman [-\]: yeah
jungtsoyde: he read all that out??
jungtsoyde: omg w is a monster
Zahlman [1k\]: I mean, if w had j4, b just answer, then h5, play the squeeze on top, win semeai
Backflash [-\]: no way
SirEttin [1d\]: w planned this all out
jungtsoyde: i think yes he really planned
Backflash [-\]: no waaaay
jungtsoyde: seems obvious now
selpahi [1k\]: what?
jungtsoyde: but cus he done it
Javaness [2d\]: who bet all in on white?
fye [3d\]: i don't think so
Zahlman [1k\]: f12 is a great move here though :)
snowman [-\]: if only black had squeezed...
fye [3d\]: b made a mistake
jungtsoyde: w planned all with k10 and f12
jungtsoyde: .... such a 10p
dresu [2d\]: is losing this game a part of his plan to win the tournament?
fye [3d\]: generally it's not good to make a plan assuming your opponent makes a mistake
rats [2d?\]: b definately should have squeezed before taking the ko back
goren2 [2k\]: what are you all talking about? B just killed w, is he not ahead?
fye [3d\]: but white just tried his best
jungtsoyde: well fye, he was hoping that
SIscurge [5d\]: f12 is not thatscary
Javaness [2d\]: i thought black would squeeze too
]
;B[eg]C[jungtsoyde: btw what fye means?
Klor [1k\]: maybe he thought w would resign instantly
Backflash [-\]: fye = eye
Zahlman [1k\]: score est too stong as usual
rats [2d?\]: for your enformation
gruenwald [2d\]: b doing well, no?
]
;W[gf]C[suechan [6d\]: ya
jungtsoyde: g14 FTW!
suechan [6d\]: b still ok
SirEttin [1d\]: w is ahead now
Backflash [-\]: g11?
SIscurge [5d\]: hmm, if b starts to play this passively it may complicate
gruenwald [2d\]: though i played e13 at g14 
]
;B[ld]C[GoldRoger7 [2d\]: not ahead
xio [5k\]: w plays sabaki, b is thick
jungtsoyde: m16 seems overplay
Ranchan [1k\]: kössö the killes
Ranchan [1k\]: killer
suechan [6d\]: i think
suechan [6d\]: b play m17 
]
;W[ke]C[jakontin [1k\]: h11
jungtsoyde: m17 was better
]
;B[hj]C[jungtsoyde: now another move to threaten k17 lol
SIscurge [5d\]: m16 is like, please enclose your territory with l15. I think b shold have played l16..
suechan [6d\]: center not big at all
]
;W[hi]C[Javaness [2d\]: white has a lot now
jungtsoyde: w should b10
]
;B[gi]C[martin97 [1d\]: w+3.5
snowman [-\]: 80 points for black, should be enough
]
;W[hh]C[suechan [6d\]: b b15 l18 b10 
]
;B[kb]C[suechan [6d\]: and win
]
;W[jb]C[Javaness [2d\]: should be
rats [2d?\]: and m8
suechan [6d\]: b15 big
]
;B[ed]
;W[ec]C[jungtsoyde: i prefer b10
medical [3k\]: killers don't rely on yose
]
;B[ll]
;W[lj]C[jungtsoyde: b is going to lose!
SirEttin [1d\]: no yose
]
;B[be]
;W[bd]C[rats [2d?\]: and p15
jungtsoyde: and again suechan was right
rats [2d?\]: o15 i mean
jungtsoyde: :P
suechan [6d\]: b10!
BlindTaub [1k\]: b getting all the yose
]
;B[bj]
;W[bk]C[costins [2k\]: w still can win this
jungtsoyde: w needs a move
Javaness [2d\]: now it looks hard to lose
jungtsoyde: like a magical tsuke
jungtsoyde: like sai did
Javaness [2d\]: so much sente yose he could cry
suechan [6d\]: m18
SirEttin [1d\]: s15
jungtsoyde: t3 please
suechan [6d\]: or sente a16 a9
]
;B[le]
;W[lf]C[martin97 [1d\]: a16 really sente?
]
;B[kd]
;W[jd]C[suechan [6d\]: m18 big
]
;B[lb]C[suechan [6d\]: yeah
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: sue knows yose :)
]
;W[sq]C[lepore [1d\]: t3
jungtsoyde: sue is 6d at all
]
;B[sr]
;W[sp]C[suechan [6d\]: hihi i like Lee Changho
]
;B[qr]C[jungtsoyde: lee changho is good at yose?
suechan [6d\]: and Cho Hun Hyun
yamadori [1k\]: what about black d7
goren2 [2k\]: t15
bobstep [2d?\]: so much for the anti-empty triangle theory
rats [2d?\]: just s15 if want to save the stone
Lacrimosa [?\]: yes, lee changho is good at yose
BlindTaub [1k\]: Lee Sedol isn't; he never gets to practice it
Banaan [1k\]: lol
jungtsoyde: what means being good at yose
GoldRoger7 [2d\]: komi is 8 ?
lepore [1d\]: o15?
jungtsoyde: like control all the 60 last moves of the game?
jungtsoyde: and perfect count?
lepore [1d\]: o15 removes aji 
jungtsoyde: is this considered good yose?
jungtsoyde: :p
goren2 [2k\]: or mabye c10?
BlindTaub [1k\]: if you have all the control, then it's good middlegame, to set yourself up with good endgame
]
;W[dj]C[jungtsoyde: but like if you find the perfect moment to start yose and know already you will win by x points playing all the perfect yose combination of every 9p knows, then its a good yose?
BlindTaub [1k\]: good yose is related to good counting skills, since that close to the end when situations are isolated, you could potentially read to conclusion, locally speakin
]
;B[di]C[jungtsoyde: yes that was what i was trying to say
jungtsoyde: counting skillzs
]
;W[ne]C[Ranchan [1k\]: and then you play selfatari
SirEttin [1d\]: w+10
BlindTaub [1k\]: w will get tedomari
]
;B[ad]
;W[ac]
;B[ae]C[Naab [5k\]: w+10, how is that possible :o
]
;W[bc]C[jungtsoyde: someone with awesome yose here can say  a result here with 100% or a 0,5 margin error please?
SirEttin [1d\]: ask se
BlindTaub [1k\]: T15 not yet played??
]
;B[ak]
;W[al]
;B[aj]C[martin97 [1d\]: theplayers will fail
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: sorry i was disturbed
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: by a weird music
]
;W[bm]C[jungtsoyde: lol eurogo
jungtsoyde: i laugh
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: you should hear it
jungtsoyde: wich one
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: coming from the streets
taringa [3k\]: lol
jungtsoyde: hahahaha
]
;B[ja]
;W[ia]C[BlindTaub [1k\]: b getting all the endgame still
]
;B[ka]
;W[ib]C[McCallaway [2d\]: w is to passive no ?
martin97 [1d\]: are they byp?
jungtsoyde: s13
jungtsoyde: for sure
]
;B[re]
;W[rf]
;B[sd]C[jungtsoyde: badddd
]
;W[nd]C[martin97 [1d\]: i like b endgame
jungtsoyde: b mistake
jungtsoyde: now
]
;B[oc]C[lepore [1d\]: t16 better than s15 for b? preserved sente?
]
;W[cj]
;B[bh]C[goren2 [2k\]: it's close
jungtsoyde: b failed at yose
Lacrimosa [?\]: really?
GoldRoger7 [2d\]: q10 
lepore [1d\]: yeah q10 seems big
jungtsoyde: e8 
jungtsoyde: biggest move
]
;W[pj]C[jungtsoyde: strange
bobstep [2d?\]: .
]
;B[fd]
;W[fc]C[SirEttin [1d\]: r11
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: thank god they closed the windows
jungtsoyde: wich music was
jungtsoyde: :)
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: i dont know, sounded like trolling saruman
fye [3d\]: somebody probably made a self-atari
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: but it wasen't that
goren2 [2k\]: W + 3 or so
]
;B[gh]
;W[gg]
;B[gj]C[jungtsoyde: e8 please
]
;W[ij]C[Naab [5k\]: is e8 really that big?
suiram [3k\]: big for jungtsoyde
]
;B[fg]C[jungtsoyde: i am jung
jungtsoyde: xD
]
;W[no]
;B[np]
;W[fe]C[lior [3d\]: E8 WILL BE GOOD NOW
]
;B[ee]
;W[ce]
;B[bf]
;W[rh]C[goren2 [2k\]: l17
]
;B[qi]
;W[pg]C[jungtsoyde: now it was bad
jungtsoyde: x)
]
;B[ff]
;W[ge]C[medical [3k\]: what's the score for e8? 5pts in gote?
SIscurge [5d\]: Black lost this game because of the adrenalin rush he got after killing the group
jungtsoyde: yup
jungtsoyde: he got surprised sequence ended in k10
]
;B[dl]C[jungtsoyde: epic fail
jungtsoyde: phail
BlindTaub [1k\]: maybe w played for psychological advantage
BlindTaub [1k\]: this is total war
jungtsoyde: yes
jungtsoyde: i agree too
]
;W[ek]C[SirEttin [1d\]: did w know about this b weakness with adenaline?
]
;B[el]C[SirEttin [1d\]: maybe it was all planned out
]
;W[fk]C[BlindTaub [1k\]: w is a strong teacher
]
;B[cl]
;W[bl]C[BlindTaub [1k\]: he knows all about the psychology of the game
jungtsoyde: i see many high dans crushing kyus, just playing more fast, and sometimes play bizzarre moves for they respond  sometimes, like psychological tests, and it is part of strategy
jungtsoyde: its weirdo
]
;B[fl]C[jungtsoyde: but works
SirEttin [1d\]: d1
]
;W[ds]C[BlindTaub [1k\]: well played
xio [5k\]: d6 
jungtsoyde: thanks
]
;B[po]C[lior [3d\]: players used this psychological test on handi games
]
;W[pm]C[jungtsoyde: yes lior
jungtsoyde: its amazing
]
;B[md]
;W[kc]
;B[lc]C[BlindTaub [1k\]: w must get P16 eventually?
goren2 [2k\]: w + 6 or so
]
;W[fj]
;B[fi]C[jungtsoyde: its like you must getting your opponent style, and get him in your hands, then its like you make hipnosis and can play stupid moves and good moves to win
]
;W[od]
;B[me]
;W[nf]C[fye [3d\]: i'd be so disappointed if i were black
]
;B[pd]
;W[es]C[goren2 [2k\]: t14
xio [5k\]: just shows go is about territory rather than chasing groups
]
;B[fs]
;W[sf]C[oasthouse [-\]: d6
]
;B[se]C[fye [3d\]: more like b got complacent after killing the group
jungtsoyde: it was part of w's strategy
medical [3k\]: he spent all his mana on it
]
;W[cm]C[jungtsoyde: w deserves all the credit
]
;B[dn]
;W[co]
;B[sh]
;W[sg]
;B[si]
;W[dm]
;B[en]
;W[em]
;B[fm]
;W[sk]
;B[mk]C[xio [5k\]: l1 
xio [5k\]: ah sorry :)
jungtsoyde: xio u entered now right?
jungtsoyde: :P
jungtsoyde: w wins!
xio [5k\]: haha
lepore [1d\]: he meant to say e8
jungtsoyde: LOL
]
;W[nj]
;B[ej]
;W[dk]
;B[gk]
;W[dd]
;B[hk]
;W[ql]
;B[de]
;W[rj]
;B[sj]
;W[ml]
;B[mn]
;W[mm]
;B[pf]C[atlbrandon [1d\]: w+
costins [2k\]: w+-
jungtsoyde: w and his mind games
jungtsoyde: :/
GoldRoger7 [2d\]: thx to komi
jungtsoyde: torturing
lior [3d\]: w+ komi
xio [5k\]: if rules japanes, why fill dames?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: cause they also count the points by hand
Naab [5k\]: easier to count
xio [5k\]: ok
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and i put the dames so the kifu is complete :)
oasthouse [-\]: You are meant to fill dame now even in Japanese rules, aren't you?
xio [5k\]: much appreciated Euro :)
medical [3k\]: and perhaps the audience gets to see a self atari at dame filling phase ;)
jungtsoyde: i wanted to see it
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: W+7
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: komi at 7
xio [5k\]: w+komi :)
jungtsoyde: wow
jungtsoyde: w+komi is cool
Naab [5k\]: :<
dfghdf [5d?\]: b strong
dfghdf [5d?\]: impressive loss
Naab [5k\]: Kössö 5d
xio [5k\]: so taking in the account w is stronger, it's really a draw :)
])
