(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[5400]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[FInnish Champioships League 2012 Round 4 Board 1]PW[Vesa Laatikainen ]PB[Olli Hella]WR[5d]BR[3d]DT[2012-11-18]EV[FInnish Champioships League 2012]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[lupis]C[jlaire [1k\]: eka!!!
SM2012A [-\]: G'morning everyone
Jye [3k\]: good afternoon from Australia.... any live streaming of these matches?
SM2012A [-\]: not this time. we're on a mobile network so it wasn't feasible
TaksiMies [3k\]: Huomenta vaan
]
;B[pd]
;W[dd]
;B[pq]
;W[dq]
;B[qk]
;W[cl]C[Rukis [8k?\]: are this ametures?
Rukis [8k?\]: these*
eve20 [1k\]: c8?
Helita [5k\]: strange move
]
;B[jp]
;W[nc]C[jlaire [1k\]: Rukis: there are no pros in finland
]
;B[pf]
;W[pb]C[SM2012A [-\]: except in the pairgo tournament where ther was :)
SM2012A [-\]: *e
]
;B[qc]
;W[kc]
;B[cc]
;W[cd]
;B[dc]
;W[ec]
;B[eb]
;W[fb]
;B[bd]
;W[be]
;B[ce]
;W[ed]
;B[bf]
;W[bc]
;B[ae]
;W[bb]C[Neospring [3k\]: ..
Shaomi [4d\]: m16 ?
gateausec [2k?\]: d10
]
;B[md]C[Shaomi [4d\]: almost !
]
;W[mc]
;B[kd]C[Rukis [8k?\]: these are live! ahh i wish i was there. althouh I would hope most people know english xD
]
;W[jd]
;B[lc]
;W[lb]
;B[ld]
;W[jc]
;B[kf]
;W[nd]C[Shaomi [4d\]: to me this doest lookpromising  for b
BinX [-\]: same Idea, different method. I thought your move was better shape though, Shaomi
]
;B[mf]
;W[nf]C[BinX [-\]: I thought n14 would be o14 
]
;B[ng]
;W[of]
;B[og]
;W[mg]C[Shaomi [4d\]: lets see how they handle it, looks painful
Arhiman [3d\]: o14 would have left the vital point opened
BinX [-\]: looks like the vital point was more painful than I thought, indeed, thanks for pointing it out
]
;B[lg]
;W[mh]C[BinX [-\]: hmm, I think r9 doesn't work so well with p13/q14 ...
]
;B[ph]
;W[me]
;B[lf]
;W[li]
;B[ki]
;W[kj]C[finity [2k\]: now black M10, white L12 and then it's just like yesterday at vesa's game :)
]
;B[kh]
;W[lk]
;B[mj]
;W[lj]
;B[ii]
;W[jj]
;B[hf]
;W[cg]
;B[ij]
;W[ik]
;B[hk]
;W[hl]
;B[il]
;W[jk]
;B[gk]
;W[gl]
;B[im]
;W[km]
;B[fl]
;W[hn]
;B[jn]
;W[fk]
;B[hm]
;W[gm]
;B[gn]
;W[fm]
;B[fn]
;W[em]C[SM2012A [-\]: looks to me that black is giving white exactly what he wanted. now to find out if it was worth wanting..
]
;B[en]
;W[hj]
;B[gj]
;W[hi]
;B[gi]
;W[hh]
;B[gh]
;W[ih]
;B[ji]
;W[if]
;B[ie]
;W[gg]C[wolokom [5k\]: overplay
BinX [-\]: may squeeze g11 for big left
Finnish8d [-\]: may I ask how much time left for both players now? : )
SM2012A [-\]: 83 minutes for white and 35 for black :)
Finnish8d [-\]: get it, thanks : )
SM2012A [-\]: should be of no surprice to you :)
SM2012A [-\]: Vesa plays almost faster than I do.
Finnish8d [-\]: well, because w this move is a decisive one and he played almost without thinking
Finnish8d [-\]: now w is just dead
Finnish8d [-\]: and if he cross cut H15, as my reading b is...
]
;B[ej]C[Finnish8d [-\]: ok nvm :P
largehc [-\]: trade? 
BinX [-\]: good move....
largehc [-\]: seems worse for b imo 
]
;W[fj]
;B[ei]
;W[fg]C[bluetable [-\]: b kyuish :P
]
;B[eh]
;W[hg]
;B[dm]
;W[el]
;B[dl]
;W[dn]C[BinX [-\]: ?
finity [2k\]: ouch
]
;B[cm]
;W[cn]
;B[bm]C[largehc [-\]: b didn't need to sacrifice his group 
]
;W[bg]C[finity [2k\]: white got 13 stones by sacrificing 8?
DalaiLama [2d\]: no?
]
;B[df]
;W[dg]
;B[eg]
;W[ef]
;B[ee]
;W[ff]C[finity [2k\]: hard to imagine Vesa calculated this wrong
LeBron [1d?\]: yeah W won
]
;B[fe]C[finity [2k\]: although this is the only possible complication..
]
;W[gd]C[Bakmoon [20k\]: What are black's options here?
finity [2k\]: I'm wondering if black K14 would give an eye for the dead black ground
finity [2k\]: *group
DalaiLama [2d\]: ground? hahaha
LeBron [1d?\]: b options? resign
Bakmoon [20k\]: I think you are right. Black can make an eye there.
DalaiLama [2d\]: black gorund dead 
DalaiLama [2d\]: haha
Bakmoon [20k\]: Doesn't matter though if black can't connect out, though.
baum [12k\]: whats the time now?
]
;B[fc]
;W[fd]C[finity [2k\]: G5 now?
SM2012A [-\]: white 78, black 20 min left
baum [12k\]: thx
finity [2k\]: has Vesa opened any beers yet?
finity [2k\]: that might be important clue what is going to happen
]
;B[ge]C[Bakmoon [20k\]: Can black consider extending at g17?
]
;W[de]C[Bakmoon [20k\]: Never mind.
SM2012A [-\]: nope, and doesn't have any lined up either
finity [2k\]: Vesa going all in today then :)
finity [2k\]: could black get enough with Q5 or something to compensate?
]
;B[gc]
;W[hd]C[Sven84 [2k\]: self ko
]
;B[gb]
;W[db]C[finity [2k\]: one does not just simply live on top
]
;B[fa]
;W[hc]
;B[eq]
;W[ep]
;B[fq]
;W[go]
;B[ek]C[bluetable [-\]: neat trick!
]
;W[dr]C[finity [2k\]: well I'm not 100 % convinced if H5 was useful?
]
;B[hq]
;W[hp]C[finity [2k\]: is this bigger than R5, for example?
]
;B[gp]C[SM2012A [-\]: what I don't get is why h17 instead of j18
]
;W[fp]
;B[gq]
;W[bn]
;B[an]
;W[ao]C[BinX [-\]: I don't really get it either... but a lot of moves seemed strange to me ^^'
]
;B[am]
;W[bp]C[HappyGoLky [6k\]: uh.  Doesn't h18 kill?
finity [2k\]: maybe white has enough on the top so he can just reduce from M9 group
finity [2k\]: HappyGoLky: yes, but small
BinX [-\]: maybe, but j18 doesn't seem so risky to me
BinX [-\]: didn't*
]
;B[mn]
;W[nl]C[finity [2k\]: white needs to careful with this group's liberties
BinX [-\]: liberties are ok, just need eyes :)
]
;B[nm]
;W[om]
;B[on]C[finity [2k\]: yes eyes would be more valuable
]
;W[pm]
;B[pn]
;W[qm]
;B[qn]
;W[mm]
;B[nn]
;W[ok]
;B[rm]
;W[rl]
;B[rn]
;W[ql]
;B[rk]
;W[ln]
;B[lo]
;W[sk]
;B[sj]
;W[sl]C[finity [2k\]: no H18?
finity [2k\]: *now
finity [2k\]: I feel like this will end up in gote for white
]
;B[ri]
;W[qb]
;B[hb]
;W[ib]
;B[ha]
;W[qe]C[SM2012A [-\]: black goes in byo-yomi
moro123 [1k\]: r15 nice
]
;B[pe]
;W[rc]C[moro123 [1k\]: w win
]
;B[rd]
;W[qd]
;B[re]
;W[pc]
;B[qf]C[finity [2k\]: was this bigger than H18?
]
;W[kn]
;B[do]C[finity [2k\]: E5?
SM2012A [-\]: I'd play d4
]
;W[eo]C[finity [2k\]: e5 f8 f5 d4 h5...
]
;B[fl]
;W[fo]C[finity [2k\]: but black will get j4 etc in sente
]
;B[ml]
;W[mk]
;B[bi]
;W[ci]
;B[cj]
;W[bh]
;B[di]C[bluetable [-\]: fancy move
]
;W[ai]
;B[bj]
;W[ko]
;B[kp]
;W[fs]C[finity [2k\]: O11 soon?
]
;B[cf]
;W[ag]C[migaja [?\]: why not g1 instead of f1?
]
;B[gr]
;W[pk]
;B[pj]
;W[oj]C[finity [2k\]: W+R soon?
]
;B[pi]
;W[ll]
;B[ip]
;W[ho]
;B[ch]
;W[af]
;B[ia]
;W[ja]
;B[qc]
;W[da]
;B[ea]
;W[qd]
;B[ni]
;W[sm]
;B[sn]
;W[gs]
;B[hs]
;W[er]
;B[ir]
;W[sd]
;B[od]
;W[ne]
;B[fr]
;W[es]
;B[oc]
;W[ob]
;B[se]
;W[sc]
;B[nj]
;W[nk]
;B[jl]
;W[kl]
;B[nh]
;W[oi]
;B[mi]
;W[lh]
;B[in]
;W[dp]
;B[fh]C[finity [2k\]: white was leading by 18.5 a while ago
]
;W[oh]
;B[pg]
;W[be]C[Cromagnon [3k\]: 2+2/
Cromagnon [3k\]: 2/
]
;B[dh]
;W[aj]
;B[ak]
;W[ah]
;B[qe]C[bluetable [-\]: b wins the semeai
]
;W[qc]
;B[io]
;W[jm]
;B[jo]
;W[oe]TW[aa][ba][ca][ka][la][ma][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][ab][cb][jb][kb][mb][nb][rb][sb][ac][cc][dc][ic][lc][ad][bd][id][kd][ld][md][ae][ce][ee][fe][ge][he][ie][je][ke][le][bf][cf][df][gf][hf][jf][kf][lf][mf][ig][jg][kg][lg][jh][kh][ii][ji][ki][ij][kk][ml][ol][pl][lm][bo][co][do][ap][cp][aq][bq][cq][ar][br][cr][as][bs][cs][ds]TB[ga][fb][rf][sf][qg][rg][sg][qh][rh][sh][ci][fi][qi][si][dj][fj][qj][rj][bk][ck][dk][fk][al][bl][cl][el][gl][hl][em][fm][gm][mo][no][oo][po][qo][ro][so][lp][mp][np][op][pp][qp][rp][sp][iq][jq][kq][lq][mq][nq][oq][qq][rq][sq][hr][jr][kr][lr][mr][nr][or][pr][qr][rr][sr][is][js][ks][ls][ms][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[finity [2k\]: cool, they're using KGS scoring to count :)
Cromagnon [3k\]: 20
SM2012A [-\]: they're not. I am :)
finity [2k\]: Olli wanted to play one game til the end? :)
NakkeN [3d\]: he lost yesterdays last game by only 1,5
finity [2k\]: ah true, against Paatero
finity [2k\]: I forgot that one
SM2012A [-\]: official result is w+26.5
SM2012c [-\]: thx lupis!
finity [2k\]: thanks!
finity [2k\]: strange that KGS gives another score =)
Kisakazomo: tänks!
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