(;CA[UTF-8]FF[4]ST[2]GM[1]AP[GOWrite:3.0.5]SZ[19]KM[6.50]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]TM[5400]DT[2016-12-17]EV[SM 2016 Finaali]PW[Juri Kuronen]BR[5d]WR[6d]RU[Japanese]RO[2]GN[SM 2016 Finaali round 2]PB[Juuso Nyyssönen]PC[Uusi ylioppilastalo, helsinki]FG[259:]PM[2] ;B[cp];W[pd];B[pq] ;W[dd]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: \:)] ;B[qf];W[nc];B[po];W[qe];B[pf];W[pj];B[ql];W[ph];B[mf];W[md];B[oh];W[oi];B[nh];W[mj];B[kf] ;W[ep]C[flurane \[5k\]\: notationsvirhe?] ;B[hp]C[snowman \[-\]\: miten ne shichot menikään lumivyöryissä... zife \[-\]\: löytyyks täst positiosta enemmän propelei tolle alun tilanteelle ku se 2 Zonked \[3d\]\: heh, molempia vaihtoehtoja oli 1.. toisessa c4 toisessa d4 zife \[-\]\: kummatki näist on niin hyvii kiipeemää nykyää et tikkailla ei oo välii enää snowman \[-\]\: noi lokaalit jatkot on harvinaisia, tenuki yleisempi Zonked \[3d\]\: aina saa kuulla miten tässä on vaihtoehtoja, kumminkin pitkällisen mietiskelyn jälkeen päädytään aina oogeimaan zife \[-\]\: ennustan et täl kertaa ei tuu oogeimaa snowman \[-\]\: kudo pelasi daidaikeiman xie yiminiä vastaan mennä viikolla] ;W[co]C[zife \[-\]\: namii sano eilen et se ei kikkaile gossa zife \[-\]\: joten tänää sen kikkailee snowman \[-\]\: puhumme paljon, sanomme vähän snowman \[-\]\: tämä on kai aika selkeä takemiya-joseki zife \[-\]\: mä ajattelen ulkomaalasia katsojia zife \[-\]\: jos me puhuttas asiaa niit harmittas ettei ne ymmärrä mitä puhutaa Zonked \[3d\]\: onkos tuol jotain pelottavia ladder breakereitä? vois meinaan pelata d5 Zonked \[3d\]\: d5 d4 c6 b5 c3 ftw \:)] ;B[dp];W[do] ;B[eo]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: tähänkin kai tarvitaan lädderi.. snowman \[-\]\: ah, muramasaa ei olekaan näkynyt vähään aikaan] ;W[lg]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: 1 kpl läddereitä kiitos pablobuss\: ovela] ;B[bo];W[lf] ;B[lh]C[Mokki \[1d\]\: jos tuon 'clamppaa' niin hajoaako mustan muoto?] ;W[kg]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: meinaat että musta suoraan vastaa m12? Mokki \[1d\]\: kah, osuin oikeaan mutta myöhästyin kibitzissä Zonked \[3d\]\: ah SM2016a \[?\]\: black 77 min white 69 min snowman \[-\]\: tällä hetkellä tämä asema näyttää aika naurettavalta Mokki \[1d\]\: eiku joo, suoraan m12 siis Zonked \[3d\]\: mokki, vissiin aika mahdotonta tapella jos samalla haluat ylläpitää lädderiä..] ;B[mg]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: jos vahvistetaan vasenta alanurkkaa jotta voidaan resistaa mustan m15? TaksiMies \[5k?\]\: Ketä on kuka? En kännyl nää Zonked \[3d\]\: w juri SM2016a \[?\]\: b juuso TaksiMies \[5k?\]\: Thnx SM2016a \[?\]\: Leela-booti haluis pelata b6 SM2016a \[?\]\: *botti jopa Zonked \[3d\]\: joo, kun kerran m15 alkava lädderi ei toimi. muta aika mahdottomalle toi suunitelma oikeasti tuntuu, kun lädderi hajoaa niin välittömästi pablobuss\: must valkeen hyökkäys oli aika onnistunu, sai leikattua palasen irti harrassilla, ja nyt Q12 ryhmällä on helpommat oltavat] ;W[jg]C[miao \[6d\]\: white iis playing a bit crazyly Zonked \[3d\]\: musta valkean hyökkäys oli ihan katastrofi, maksettiin tosi paljon.] ;B[ki]C[miao \[6d\]\: o10] ;W[dm]C[pablobuss\: nyt en kyl keksi enää mitään hyvää siirtoa tolle Q12 oikeestaan ku mietin tarkemmin Zonked \[3d\]\: would o10 leave n13 exchange slightly redundant? miao \[6d\]\: o10 would make shape much faster miao \[6d\]\: and make it an even battle miao \[6d\]\: maybe even good battle for b miao \[6d\]\: on the top] ;B[ni]C[miao \[6d\]\: as the lower corner is already trashed that would be horrible miao \[6d\]\: but juri might should have kept attacking miao \[6d\]\: with k10 miao \[6d\]\: after b played softly miao \[6d\]\: now he pays on both sides] ;W[nj];B[ok];W[oj] ;B[kk]C[miao \[6d\]\: eventhough b played slightly submissive with l11 Zonked \[3d\]\: i c miao \[6d\]\: now black is as good as won pablobuss\: valley of death awaits miao \[6d\]\: i might manage to lose such a position still] ;W[eq]C[Sandmann \[-\]\: tall blonde guy vs. small blond guy Zonked \[3d\]\: statistics vs mathematics] ;B[fo] ;W[hr]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: looks like w has alot of running to do if b turns attack on p11 zife \[-\]\: 7a vs 6c] ;B[dr]C[pablobuss\: I have utmost confidence white will manage to turn this into a game still pablobuss\: white is master of winning lost games SM2016a \[?\]\: black 70 min white 60 min pablobuss\: make a huge mistake in the beginning, then win by 1,5 points in the end miao \[6d\]\: maybe snowman \[-\]\: nah miao \[6d\]\: but it is really bad pablobuss\: I guess now it's a question will juuso let him turn it around pablobuss\: gonna be tough as nails miao \[6d\]\: w needs to play d3c3 e2 in my opinion] ;W[bn]C[miao \[6d\]\: in order to kinda have a chance to settle miao \[6d\]\: uff miao \[6d\]\: now 2 miao \[6d\]\: e2 miao \[6d\]\: pain is here pablobuss\: what can w do after e2 ? \:o miao \[6d\]\: good question] ;B[bp]C[miao \[6d\]\: l3 maybe miao \[6d\]\: or p3] ;W[dq]C[miao \[6d\]\: wow] ;B[cq];W[er] ;B[cr]C[pablobuss\: now it's suddenly all different pablobuss\: told you, gonna turn it around still miao \[6d\]\: white got all] ;W[iq]C[pablobuss\: \:) miao \[6d\]\: hm miao \[6d\]\: this shape pablobuss\: now it's entirely different game pablobuss\: this is really really good for w \:D miao \[6d\]\: g2 will be a nuicance Zonked \[3d\]\: funny ladder at g2 miao \[6d\]\: l3 first though Zonked \[3d\]\: hits r8? Zonked \[3d\]\: after turning at o9] ;B[ml] ;W[pl]C[miao \[6d\]\: anything is fine for black] ;B[qm]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: I Dont get it.. the ladder was already working, why did b add m8? miao \[6d\]\: n8 is a good move miao \[6d\]\: no need to playg2 pablobuss\: encloses the group, now w has pain to even live miao \[6d\]\: it helps w miao \[6d\]\: u cash in too early Zonked \[3d\]\: ok pablobuss\: now also all aji is gone from lower right] ;W[qk]C[miao \[6d\]\: l3 is a much worse move for w to handle] ;B[kq] ;W[ip]C[miao \[6d\]\: h5 pablobuss\: B has that S9, Q9 thingy there pablobuss\: to make points in center now too] ;B[io];W[kp];B[lq] ;W[jo]C[miao \[6d\]\: s9 is not the shape there miao \[6d\]\: r1 maybe is miao \[6d\]\: r11 pablobuss\: oh right miao \[6d\]\: hm pablobuss\: I agree, R11 hurts miao \[6d\]\: this is bad] ;B[in]C[miao \[6d\]\: j5 i mean] ;W[qq]C[pablobuss\: is white aiming to play P3 snowman \[-\]\: white wants to have it all miao \[6d\]\: aiaiai Zonked \[3d\]\: this r3 looks insane Zonked \[3d\]\: u serious about this timing? miao \[6d\]\: w wants to create problems to slove his problems pablobuss\: typical \:D miao \[6d\]\: what would u do? pablobuss\: over complicate the situation and outread SM2016a \[?\]\: white 56 min black 65 min miao \[6d\]\: i think the timing is not so bad miao \[6d\]\: k2 is critical miao \[6d\]\: but if w lives in sente u get huge problems miao \[6d\]\: points wise Zonked \[3d\]\: so, how about ignore this, and claim j3 much more important? miao \[6d\]\: then u need to kill something maybe Zonked \[3d\]\: w getting life in corner is no compensation for h2 dying] ;B[or]C[snowman \[-\]\: aha Zonked \[3d\]\: b rly playing safe with p2 miao \[6d\]\: p2 miao \[6d\]\: hm Zonked \[3d\]\: willing to leave aji in corner Zonked \[3d\]\: just t make sure outside doesnt break miao \[6d\]\: now w can live in the corner i think miao \[6d\]\: with s2 miao \[6d\]\: but w will now play somethere else Zonked \[3d\]\: well, s2 still up for negotiation, no? considering move such as q7 is effectively sente.. miao \[6d\]\: just where miao \[6d\]\: hard to kill s2 miao \[6d\]\: but now is the wrong timing miao \[6d\]\: w already gained something here Zonked \[3d\]\: ya, letting w gain a little bithere is typical old fashion prodi Zonked \[3d\]\: h will let u gain a little bit everywhere, as long as u dont ask for too much, and just wait until u ask for too much] ;W[km]C[miao \[6d\]\: hm miao \[6d\]\: i am concerned about q12 miao \[6d\]\: it has potential to die if i tenuki SM2016a \[?\]\: both players left the table miao \[6d\]\: on the other hand attacking w at k2 is really hurting snowman \[-\]\: intermission vegetable \[7k\]\: is there danger here of black h4 getting cut off and get in trouble, if this is not responded to on the left side? Zonked \[3d\]\: hmm, b j8 next? miao \[6d\]\: same asd9 miao \[6d\]\: or similar lets say miao \[6d\]\: l7 looks for another compromise miao \[6d\]\: like m8 s12 Zonked \[3d\]\: vegetable, h4 on its own is sort of fine, it can run.. tho if o14 is also weak then ya, it could pose a problem SM2016a \[?\]\: yuri is back Zonked \[3d\]\: so u want a magic cut that cuts of n8 stone from l9 stone and both from j6 stone, then b in real trouble Ansalon \[2k\]\: Huomenna ratkaseva jos 1-1? snowman \[-\]\: jury is back pablobuss\: komrad yuri Zonked \[3d\]\: ansalon, kyl Ansalon \[2k\]\: k SM2016a \[?\]\: juuso is back Zonked \[3d\]\: j8 looks like mandatory move to me] ;B[il]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: funny how this game reminds so much of the first one Zonked \[3d\]\: juri is just struggling with weak groups all over the place, and robaby nothing will, but he will jus tlose too many points in the process Zonked \[3d\]\: probably*] ;W[lk]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: will be pretty ridiculous if there is a geta on n8 after this Zonked \[3d\]\: game will be reversed if n8 dies] ;B[ll] ;W[kl]C[miao \[6d\]\: n8 will not die i think] ;B[jk]C[vegetable \[7k\]\: looks dangerous to me vegetable \[7k\]\: but that could be just me. miao \[6d\]\: now what Zonked \[3d\]\: w has been dancing on the blaes edge for quite a while.. Zonked \[3d\]\: o7 obvious "geta" snowman \[-\]\: "how to survive a double attack" Zonked \[3d\]\: ya, how to surive double attack, capture the cutting stones vegetable \[7k\]\: ez pablobuss\: works every time snowman \[-\]\: "n8, my obsession" Zonked \[3d\]\: well, w has sort of hurt both his group with the last few exchanges, unless n8 gets captured] ;W[nn]C[miao \[6d\]\: usually m4 or q7 are good moves in such positions miao \[6d\]\: haha miao \[6d\]\: this doesn´t work miao \[6d\]\: \:) vegetable \[7k\]\: maybe there is another plan miao \[6d\]\: o7# snowman \[-\]\: another keikaku] ;B[mn]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: o7 q6?] ;W[pn]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: wn h2 be killed if b plays n5 now? Zonked \[3d\]\: can* manta \[2d\]\: probably miao \[6d\]\: i think so Zonked \[3d\]\: seels like a reasonable deal then SM2016a \[?\]\: black 57 min white 50 min pablobuss\: W can make one eye at J2 or so, other than that I see death snowman \[-\]\: plenty of time to read] ;B[mo]C[miao \[6d\]\: k2 and w will live on both sides miao \[6d\]\: but o6 was obviously bad miao \[6d\]\: minus several points pablobuss\: K2 = life ? vegetable \[7k\]\: it didn't seem to quite do much pablobuss\: I'm not strong enough to read that miao \[6d\]\: itf it really worked white could have started with q6 pablobuss\: this kinda seems like the end miao \[6d\]\: nah Zonked \[3d\]\: so where does b spend sente? worth it to attack d7 stones? indianayk \[3d\]\: k2 is a must snowman \[-\]\: \:) vegetable \[7k\]\: if white just goes to live on the south miao \[6d\]\: k2 r6 s12 vegetable \[7k\]\: black doesn't have too many points miao \[6d\]\: white will live with both miao \[6d\]\: but the overplay haunts him now Zonked \[3d\]\: b shoul still be leaidng somewhat after this, tho it feels like a lost opportunity Zonked \[3d\]\: assuming w k2 that is] ;W[lp];B[mp] ;W[qn]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: lol miao \[6d\]\: lol vegetable \[7k\]\: interesting miao \[6d\]\: w claiming k6 is sente snowman \[-\]\: g3 please miao \[6d\]\: in such a way that g4 doesn´t kill pablobuss\: this game is so way levels above my reading ability indianayk \[3d\]\: k2 is a must for b now Zonked \[3d\]\: g3 first miao \[6d\]\: yes miao \[6d\]\: g3 f4 miao \[6d\]\: no way miao \[6d\]\: geez miao \[6d\]\: juriii Zonked \[3d\]\: am I reading those coordinates right.. I dot understand f4 at all miao \[6d\]\: it takes away a possible second eye Zonked \[3d\]\: oh.. u mean f4 for black? miao \[6d\]\: not even h7 j7 h5 works miao \[6d\]\: yes Zonked \[3d\]\: I meant black g3 \:P miao \[6d\]\: ah Zonked \[3d\]\: before k2 miao \[6d\]\: hm] ;B[jr]C[miao \[6d\]\: not sure vegetable \[7k\]\: here goes the k2 pablobuss\: white has to be dead now miao \[6d\]\: feels like it might create chances for w pablobuss\: for sure vegetable \[7k\]\: now juri needs to show why he didn´t play k2 to live miao \[6d\]\: hm vegetable \[7k\]\: i would think he read a way to live without it vegetable \[7k\]\: or thought the corner and killing r7 stones is big enough pablobuss\: could he be thinking living would had been too painful, and he rather took that and now aims to do something with the sente and the rest of the board indianayk \[3d\]\: there is not enough room to make 2 eyes imho Zonked \[3d\]\: well, w position was already bad, so he might read out soemthing that just results in say.. running fight that is somewhat bad for him Zonked \[3d\]\: but in general, you never would play like this without a plan miao \[6d\]\: well Zonked \[3d\]\: and just throwin away those stones cant be a plan miao \[6d\]\: e1 is sente miao \[6d\]\: and there is some aji wtih h4 snowman \[-\]\: krhm, sente for two-stage irregular ko Zonked \[3d\]\: after fixing c6.. snowman \[-\]\: yeah miao \[6d\]\: true miao \[6d\]\: dunno indianayk \[3d\]\: e1 is not a sente since there is a cut at c6 snowman \[-\]\: dead meat, have to make the rest of the board white] ;W[dj]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: and even without the cut, you cant really play out the ko Zonked \[3d\]\: or thats wrong, lets say, the ko is difficult] ;B[fc];W[ec] ;B[fd]C[vegetable \[7k\]\: white looks like has solid ko threats] ;W[df]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: ya, w has local threats so maybe it would work out if u can create it vegetable \[7k\]\: and i think can threaten to cut off o11 Zonked \[3d\]\: I somehow dont like f17.. would hav preferred splitting topside instead, too greedy? miao \[6d\]\: f17 is fine Zonked \[3d\]\: j17 here?] ;B[jd]C[miao \[6d\]\: hm Zonked \[3d\]\: k16 looks like asking for trobuel miao \[6d\]\: k16 is ok snowman \[-\]\: it's a kibitzer-friendly move miao \[6d\]\: because of m15 Zonked \[3d\]\: still sort of expect w to play h17 wade \[5d\]\: if b would play k17, h17 would have been annoying still and i'd rather have k16 than k17 miao \[6d\]\: k17 should be ok miao \[6d\]\: as well miao \[6d\]\: but a bit more direct fighting Zonked \[3d\]\: I have this principle ingrained that if you are close to thickness, make extension 1 shorter than normal miao \[6d\]\: which might be in white´s favour wade \[5d\]\: yeah but its a cut less Zonked \[3d\]\: hence the j17 instead of k17 or k16 miao \[6d\]\: j17 is also possible snowman \[-\]\: counting, counting, ... wade \[5d\]\: well... w's thickness isnt strong enough to apply it on this case] ;W[hc] ;B[hd]C[pablobuss\: I guess white just has to try something now Zonked \[3d\]\: but because black is leading, all white thickness counts as double pablobuss\: get a kill to bounce back miao \[6d\]\: l11 should be sente wade \[5d\]\: when you got a severe cut like m15 it makes the thickness less intimidating miao \[6d\]\: that´s the only plus i see SM2016a \[?\]\: black 50 min white 37 min] ;W[gc] ;B[fb]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: is w really so much behind that he has to go ballistic, if we assume w c7 is sente (which it probably is, and certainly is against prodi on this board) pablobuss\: well that's 12 dead stones with not much aji pablobuss\: I'd say he's pretty behind] ;W[id]C[miao \[6d\]\: j17 miao \[6d\]\: oh miao \[6d\]\: ic] ;B[ie]C[miao \[6d\]\: w will g16 miao \[6d\]\: lol Zonked \[3d\]\: ya, such an ugly sequence u almost never consider it wade \[5d\]\: f18 seems overplay Zonked \[3d\]\: give b ponnuki in return for 3 stones] ;W[gd]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: vaguely capturing 3 stones more like miao \[6d\]\: nowg15 snowman \[-\]\: maybe Zonked \[3d\]\: w will surely ko that Zonked \[3d\]\: I think b will opt to j17, with th argument that w has too many ko threats in th dead group] ;B[ge];W[he] ;B[hf]C[pablobuss\: yeah, gold mine of ko threats Zonked \[3d\]\: k17] ;W[if] ;B[hd]C[vegetable \[7k\]\: i have no idea how black should win this ko miao \[6d\]\: hard to get anything from this ko miao \[6d\]\: maybe h5] ;W[hm]C[miao \[6d\]\: g3 is also sente i think Zonked \[3d\]\: I count atleast 5 ko threats from the dead group, tho.. some of them do cost points miao \[6d\]\: just connect miao \[6d\]\: the ko itself is massive vegetable \[7k\]\: but this threat is like. 40+ points? miao \[6d\]\: yeah miao \[6d\]\: this one is to big vegetable \[7k\]\: actually more than that i think vegetable \[7k\]\: is huge miao \[6d\]\: but c15 is possible maybe miao \[6d\]\: for b as a ko threat miao \[6d\]\: or c17 Zonked \[3d\]\: I honestly think, b accepting this ko was a mistake, its too well balanced with he w dead group in size miao \[6d\]\: and f w plays e17 b has one more at c15 miao \[6d\]\: maybe] ;B[ic] ;W[im]C[pablobuss\: ooooooooooooo] ;B[em]C[vegetable \[7k\]\: interesting pablobuss\: we have a game boys vegetable \[7k\]\: did he read a way to not die vegetable \[7k\]\: probably did] ;W[dl]C[snowman \[-\]\: i can imagine juuso shaking his head Zonked \[3d\]\: e1 threattens the ko now that c6 cut is gone vegetable \[7k\]\: now that the cut at c6 is fixed pablobuss\: I think w has a genuine chance now] ;B[el]C[vegetable \[7k\]\: the corner is also potentially in danger? pablobuss\: also since w got R6 and stuff Zonked \[3d\]\: vegetable, corner is alive for now pablobuss\: it's not so painful anymore Zonked \[3d\]\: it only gives w e1 in sente, and even that only creates a ko that w has to win.. sort of 2 times but not really miao \[6d\]\: does g5 work?] ;W[ek] ;B[gl]C[miao \[6d\]\: LOOKS LIKE NOß] ;W[hl];B[hk];W[gm] ;B[fl]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: another ko? miao \[6d\]\: kot as far as i read miao \[6d\]\: still possible pablobuss\: F6 ? miao \[6d\]\: f6 is a big minus miao \[6d\]\: just g5 Zonked \[3d\]\: c5 stones die from it pablobuss\: ah pablobuss\: bad technique snowman \[-\]\: black might want to have the center but it looks awfully small now] ;W[jl] ;B[ik]C[vegetable \[7k\]\: i wonder what white is actually planning, i thought it was killing e5 and the rest there, but] ;W[go]C[miao \[6d\]\: what miao \[6d\]\: ah miao \[6d\]\: \:) pablobuss\: \:D Zonked \[3d\]\: the ko threat was mostly to just live I think, anything else was sort of a bonus pablobuss\: highly entertaining game, so far it's had everything pablobuss\: ko's, death, fighting Zonked \[3d\]\: tripple ko ending to crown it all] ;B[gp] ;W[ho]C[miao \[6d\]\: white made some sort of comeback vegetable \[7k\]\: ok so now white is alive] ;B[fp]C[pablobuss\: but I think I said in the beginning that white is going to turn it into a game still pablobuss\: master of winning lost games pablobuss\: \:D miao \[6d\]\: g2 pablobuss\: mark my words, w+1,5 Zonked \[3d\]\: g2 just too slow? miao \[6d\]\: what else?] ;W[gr]C[vegetable \[7k\]\: doesn't f2 kill if not? lucibel \[2d\]\: does E1 work? miao \[6d\]\: NO miao \[6d\]\: l5 makes w alive miao \[6d\]\: sorry for caps] ;B[fq]C[lucibel \[2d\]\: how about E1 instead of G2?] ;W[fr]C[miao \[6d\]\: u need two eyes Zonked \[3d\]\: just cut at g9 and claim u can kill it with wishful thinking? SM2016a \[?\]\: k6? Zonked \[3d\]\: so we get back to e1 ko miao \[6d\]\: will not work] ;B[ir];W[hq] ;B[kn]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: after b k6, w wont e1?] ;W[jn]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: or this even better] ;B[lm]C[miao \[6d\]\: this is just three stones miao \[6d\]\: in gote maybe miao \[6d\]\: e1 Zonked \[3d\]\: e1 for sente life then? pablobuss\: yeah pablobuss\: w will just ignore this no ? BattleCrui \[2k?\]\: g9? Zonked \[3d\]\: well, he b dragon has some problems too with eyes miao \[6d\]\: i w ignores he will die after e1 i thinnk BattleCrui \[2k?\]\: time for e1 miao \[6d\]\: e1 might not be sente miao \[6d\]\: even now Zonked \[3d\]\: so the 3 stones are slightly bigger than just 3 stones.. pablobuss\: E1 is "sente" pablobuss\: isn't it ko in the corner then pablobuss\: if B ignores Zonked \[3d\]\: ko that u have to win twice pablobuss\: yeah miao \[6d\]\: not sure vegetable \[7k\]\: and now most of the ko threats are gone i suppose snowman \[-\]\: amazing development miao \[6d\]\: because of b7] ;W[le]C[miao \[6d\]\: what Zonked \[3d\]\: miao, I fail to read how b7 affects it pablobuss\: Juri keeps surprising me \:D pablobuss\: "tenuki \:)" vegetable \[7k\]\: what goes on \:< Zonked \[3d\]\: unless argumentis, b will win semeai against h2 Zonked \[3d\]\: nvm that one Zonked \[3d\]\: so.. just e1 now and be done with it? miao \[6d\]\: yeah Zonked \[3d\]\: ah.. l5 for second eye? miao \[6d\]\: i think so pablobuss\: wait miao \[6d\]\: hm pablobuss\: E1 -> L5 -> capture pablobuss\: and K3 miao \[6d\]\: ah pablobuss\: it's alive Ten \[1p\]\: What on earth happened to this game pablobuss\: \:DD miao \[6d\]\: k3 need to be played first pablobuss\: yeah, and then W can E1 Zonked \[3d\]\: ten, juri tried real hard to repeat the first game pablobuss\: Ten, the usual, juri made a mess in the beginning and now he is going to win by 1,5 points Zonked \[3d\]\: ya, because of g6.. SM2016a \[?\]\: white 26 min black 37 min] ;B[jm]C[pablobuss\: aaand now comes the E1 and now even the severe cut of M15 is fixed pablobuss\: jesus Zonked \[3d\]\: e1 d12? BattleCrui \[2k?\]\: tenuki! pablobuss\: W can't possibly tenuki anymore \:D snowman \[-\]\: hi might snowman \[-\]\: he Gigot \[2k\]\: does E1 threaten the corner? miao \[6d\]\: this game is good entertainment pablobuss\: as a ko yes Zonked \[3d\]\: gigot, yes pablobuss\: but it's not a good ko BattleCrui \[2k?\]\: g9 first Zonked \[3d\]\: e1 tenuki b2 b1 a3 leads to bad ko Ten \[1p\]\: I'll take any free ko I can get Zonked \[3d\]\: ten, does that include the restriction that more than 2 step isnt ko? Zonked \[3d\]\: \:) Ten \[1p\]\: I'm fine even with a five-step ko if it's free] ;W[eh]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: lol pablobuss\: \:DD BattleCrui \[2k?\]\: tenuki!!\:) Ten \[1p\]\: That will at least gain one point when we're filling dame pablobuss\: and tenuki, of course Zonked \[3d\]\: so.. what happens when b plays e1? pablobuss\: we're about to find out pablobuss\: aren't we lucibel \[2d\]\: zonkded\: w cuts? lucibel \[2d\]\: g9 miao \[6d\]\: e6 snowman \[-\]\: d6 miao \[6d\]\: d6 miao \[6d\]\: yes miao \[6d\]\: \:)] ;B[fj] ;W[dn]C[miao \[6d\]\: haha pablobuss\: I feel white maybe got the tempo now pablobuss\: after the ko at upper side] ;B[en]C[pablobuss\: now b is on the back foot atleast mentally] ;W[es]C[miao \[6d\]\: white got several pawns back] ;B[rk]C[miao \[6d\]\: with tempo miao \[6d\]\: p7 Ten \[1p\]\: If white plays r10 now, I'm going to go sleep] ;W[pm]C[miao \[6d\]\: haha Ten \[1p\]\: Phew miao \[6d\]\: XD QSD\: why was r10 a bad move? miao \[6d\]\: did r10 work? Ten \[1p\]\: Nope] ;B[rn]C[Ten \[1p\]\: Black s6, alive miao \[6d\]\: ok \:)] ;W[ro]C[miao \[6d\]\: s10?] ;B[rj]C[floating \[?\]\: are they playing fast miao \[6d\]\: they don´t like my simplyfications Gigot \[2k\]\: O8 now? miao \[6d\]\: just r2? miao \[6d\]\: hm miao \[6d\]\: maybe not] ;W[rm] ;B[rl]C[Ten \[1p\]\: The only territory this game is going to see are dead stones Ten \[1p\]\: At this rate miao \[6d\]\: \:) Zonked \[3d\]\: bottom left will die and as compensation b will live on the left side? miao \[6d\]\: this is much better than my reccomendation pablobuss\: it's extremely difficult to count any points atleast miao \[6d\]\: take] ;W[sn]C[Ten \[1p\]\: Zonked, I'm almost expecting it Gigot \[2k\]\: this protects the cut] ;B[qi]C[miao \[6d\]\: there is no cut miao \[6d\]\: r2 ben0 \[6d\]\: but is there a spoon ? Gigot \[2k\]\: ok, you just sacrifice r9] ;W[rf] ;B[rg]C[Gigot \[2k\]\: No knife pablobuss\: oo S14 was nice style] ;W[qr] ;B[an]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: havint to answr s14 is annoying Zonked \[3d\]\: bottom left securednow Zonked \[3d\]\: ten, was b g15 a mistake? pablobuss\: or maybe rather F18 that lead to it Zonked \[3d\]\: or k16 \:P Ten \[1p\]\: Zonked, it certainly made black's game tough Zonked \[3d\]\: well the upside is potential third game tomorrow Gigot \[2k\]\: time for e18? pablobuss\: feels like, everything black built is gone and white is left with couple of nice territories pablobuss\: super close still Gigot \[2k\]\: I prefer white here pablobuss\: is there still aji with moves like C17 or C15 miao \[6d\]\: w seems good to me] ;W[am]C[Zonked \[3d\]\: b p18? SM2016a \[?\]\: W+R pablobuss\: niiiiiiiiiiiice Zonked \[3d\]\: sick game pablobuss\: a real thriller pablobuss\: so deciding game tomorrow ben0 \[6d\]\: a bit early for resignation Gigot \[2k\]\: Is a7 sente? SM2016a \[?\]\: next round tomorrow around 15\:00 EET lucibel \[2d\]\: w b resigned now?] )