(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
GN[Takapotku Open 2013 Round 1 Board 1]PW[Simo Vanhala]PB[Alexey Lazarev]WR[3d]BR[6d]DT[2013-06-08]EV[Takapotku Open]RO[1]PC[Helsinki, Finland]US[lupis]
;B[pd]
;W[qp]
;B[cd]
;W[ep]C[kt123 [3d\]: Simo ftw!
]
;B[cp]C[kt123 [3d\]: kuka on kirjaamassa?
]
;W[dn]
;B[eq]
;W[fq]
;B[dq]
;W[fp]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lukee kyllä tiedoissa
Jhyn [3k\]: is antti tormanen there?
]
;B[nq]
;W[pq]
;B[kq]C[Javaness [2d\]: http://www.suomigo.net/wiki/Takapotku2013Ilmoittautuminen
Jhyn [3k\]: great, thanks
]
;W[iq]C[pokeball [1d\]: IS W BEHIND?
]
;B[ec]
;W[qf]C[rats [2d?\]: in points he would be
]
;B[nc]C[pokeball [1d\]: ^
]
;W[pj]C[daimaouyun [2k\]: only the beginning still to early   it
rats [2d?\]: i would have pincered instead of o17
snowman [-\]: O5 is more or less necessary
]
;B[qh]
;W[lp]C[pokeball [1d\]: OOPS
medical [3k\]: I liked l5 more
]
;B[lq]
;W[np]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: is this sente for w?
]
;B[mp]
;W[mo]
;B[mq]
;W[op]C[snowman [-\]: senteish
pokeball [1d\]: FETISH
rats [2d?\]: sente fetish
Javaness [2d\]: people who write in capslock often get banned
pokeball [1d\]: omg sorry
dfghdf [5d?\]: b could just had o5 instead of r12 and his lead would be solid
pokeball [1d\]: ^
]
;B[rj]
;W[qk]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: so where did w go wrong. q3 looked wrong direction?
]
;B[oh]C[rats [2d?\]: i think q3 maybe wrong direction
pokeball [1d\]: s10 cool move
dfghdf [5d?\]: q3 might be wrong yes, he cannot be happy wityh j3 shape 
K5 [2d?\]: Is l4 sente?
Voegelein [-\]: e4 was wrong direction, imho
rats [2d?\]: e4 was just an approach
pokeball [1d\]: w is doing great imho
rats [2d?\]: oh, haha, he began with e4 i see
dfghdf [5d?\]: L4 helps b live
Voegelein [-\]: approach?
Voegelein [-\]: that's what i mean
pokeball [1d\]: r17?
K5 [2d?\]: So, k3 a better move yo pressure B?
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: r16 seems better imo
EuroGoTV2 [-\]: and hi EuroGoTV1
nepal999 [1d?\]: i think id r16 or p14
]
;W[ko]C[pokeball [1d\]: k16 is big
]
;B[jr]C[dfghdf [5d?\]: L5 cannot be good
dfghdf [5d?\]: later w may have a real attack here
rats [2d?\]: looks like it's going to be hard to make use of this influence
dfghdf [5d?\]: why spoil the aji?
ponchuiiuy: who are the players?
ponchuiiuy: on kgs
K5 [2d?\]: What would be a better way to attack B on the bottom side, dfghdf?
prinda [4k\]: is bl D9 a good move?
pokeball [1d\]: d10 maybe
nepal999 [1d?\]: k2/p2, keep to 1 eye
prinda [4k\]: D10 better. tx
pokeball [1d\]: k16 bigger, right?
nepal999 [1d?\]: doing something with r14 looks urgent to me
pokeball [1d\]: it looks leisure to me
]
;W[mj]
;B[mh]C[K5 [2d?\]: What is W planning for UR corner, I wonder?
pokeball [1d\]: wow this xchange is bad for w
pokeball [1d\]: r17 then b gets k16
freed0m: r 16
fghh3d: w lost from now
ponchuiiuy: do they play on kgs or just on this tournament?
fghh3d: small amont gift
]
;W[ci]
;B[ki]
;W[fd]C[pokeball [1d\]: wow weird
daimaouyun [2k\]: hmm based on black beiing 3dans higher than white  or saying based on the game`
daimaouyun [2k\]: ?
]
;B[ed]C[snowman [-\]: white doesn't have too much territory
grmaster [2k\]: this is true
daimaouyun [2k\]: (i thought white still isnt so far off that its aleready game over)
grmaster [2k\]: very unbalanced position
snowman [-\]: R16 and black got it all
grmaster [2k\]: r16 huge indeed
daimaouyun [2k\]: r16 is not all territory yet
snowman [-\]: compared to C11...
pokeball [1d\]: c11 is cute
freed0m: if white lives in the corner black gets a wall to the side
nepal999 [1d?\]: i dont know if r16works now
grmaster [2k\]: I guess W has to n16 or n17 now
nepal999 [1d?\]: for w i mean
snowman [-\]: R17 surely works for white
pokeball [1d\]: ^
grmaster [2k\]: r17 is urgent but gote
pokeball [1d\]: can a move be urgent AND gote :D
grmaster [2k\]: surely can :-)
pokeball [1d\]: hehe
]
;W[kg]
;B[kh]
;W[jg]
;B[qd]C[grmaster [2k\]: W is very carefull
snowman [-\]: we sound like f1 drivers...
grmaster [2k\]: may be too carefull
grmaster [2k\]: well B thinks r16 is biggest hehe
Wang1 [1k\]: Wow, Is 3d white?
]
;W[mc]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: yes
]
;B[md]
;W[lc]C[pokeball [1d\]: b5
grmaster [2k\]: no no
]
;B[ld]
;W[kc]C[grmaster [2k\]: top is urgent
pokeball [1d\]: wow abandon l13?
rats [2d?\]: l3 hard to kill
grmaster [2k\]: l13 is nothing atm
grmaster [2k\]: just 2 stones
snowman [-\]: O18, please
]
;B[bn]C[pokeball [1d\]: ya b5 is big
nepal999 [1d?\]: my mind is screaming o18 too
]
;W[fc]
;B[je]
;W[ic]
;B[id]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: now w gets it
]
;W[hc]C[grmaster [2k\]: c13 or c9 ?
pokeball [1d\]: l9
Wang1 [1k\]: nepal999 is a nepali?
nepal999 [1d?\]: no
rats [2d?\]: more like l9
K5 [2d?\]: w has held back on o18. Why?
rats [2d?\]: to irritate us
grmaster [2k\]: well I guess it will be B c13 W c8 and B l9 
nepal999 [1d?\]: i tihnk it was sente when he played f17
pokeball [1d\]: b c13 w will not c8
grmaster [2k\]: wheres W move then?
rats [2d?\]: think about l9
pokeball [1d\]: ^
]
;B[or]C[grmaster [2k\]: c13 huge
pokeball [1d\]: or maybe o18 first?
]
;W[cf]
;B[rk]
;W[rl]
;B[qr]C[rats [2d?\]: s2.. lol
nepal999 [1d?\]: b just playing slow, solid moves
rats [2d?\]: i mean r2
medical [3k\]: how large is o18 really?
]
;W[pr]
;B[ps]
;W[rr]C[Javaness [2d\]: black's familiar style
grmaster [2k\]: l9 now hehe
pokeball [1d\]: y s9
pokeball [1d\]: too solid
randomID [4d?\]: s7 followup is strong
]
;B[lg]C[BoSunHac [4d\]: black appr. 65 points of territory
]
;W[nb]
;B[oc]C[pokeball [1d\]: m13?
BoSunHac [4d\]: w behind big time
pokeball [1d\]: w has 65
BoSunHac [4d\]: I disagree
nepal999 [1d?\]: w maybe 50 + komi
]
;W[kk]C[daimaouyun [2k\]: 48 safe + some influence
T4L0N [1k\]: b is so solid, W doesn't really have anywhere to attack
]
;B[cm]
;W[el]C[Wang1 [1k\]: b will win
T4L0N [1k\]: So now all W can do is try to max his terr
]
;B[jp]C[T4L0N [1k\]: Whihle B gets to easily reduce
jojo1 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;W[io]
;B[ip]C[K5 [2d?\]: B is thick
nepal999 [1d?\]: b looks a very annoying player to play against if he's winning
nepal999 [1d?\]: he doesnt take any chances
]
;W[ho]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: doestn let you back in
T4L0N [1k\]: Why should he?
T4L0N [1k\]: He's winning
pokeball [1d\]: srsly w has a lot
nepal999 [1d?\]: yes but many players would play differently
daimaouyun [2k\]: its still close i think
]
;B[jj]
;W[jk]
;B[hj]C[T4L0N [1k\]: Which is why he is 6d and most of them are not.
dfghdf [5d?\]: b played great
fghh3d: b way bigger than w
T4L0N [1k\]: And this is a tourney game, not just a kgs game for fun.
T4L0N [1k\]: So b is playing more seriously
T4L0N [1k\]: If he has the lead, then he should keep it.
pokeball [1d\]: b15 r7
gooooo [-\]: eurogotv1, is antti playing?
cetec [7k\]: antti who?
Namaskar [2k\]: sorry guys - what's the event? (for late comeers)
blurb1: tien
Namaskar [2k\]: where's takapotku?
nepal999 [1d?\]: finland
Namaskar [2k\]: ah, thx
]
;W[hg]
;B[ik]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: it might be the name of the tournament rather than the place, but im not sure...
pokeball [1d\]: b15
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes Antti is playing. on board 4 as it happens
]
;W[ee]
;B[eb]C[T4L0N [1k\]: B's replies are quite fast.
nepal999 [1d?\]: e15 good? looks like it costs points
nepal999 [1d?\]: or force b to make points i should say
pokeball [1d\]: e15 good
T4L0N [1k\]: W is trying to make a few upper left pointsaround E13?
T4L0N [1k\]: E18 may have been better though
pokeball [1d\]: b15
nononono22: w has already lost
]
;W[ob]
;B[pb]C[blurb1: i guess r7 works for b later
]
;W[qj]
;B[ri]C[T4L0N [1k\]: R7?
T4L0N [1k\]: You meant S7?
blurb1: fixed in sente
blurb1: s7
]
;W[ni]C[blurb1: sry
T4L0N [1k\]: bad shape, but hey, it works well. ^^
grmaster [2k\]: they start to play yose it seems
pokeball [1d\]: oh nice
pokeball [1d\]: t9
grmaster [2k\]: looks like o11 gote
T4L0N [1k\]: H3 is nice
T4L0N [1k\]: G19 is good as well
jojo1 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
pokeball [1d\]: too small
T4L0N [1k\]: B15 is big
pokeball [1d\]: y not b5
grmaster [2k\]: c10 now may be
]
;B[gh]C[erna [6k\]: much better: 2 purposses..
pokeball [1d\]: G11
erna [6k\]: G 11 H12?
]
;W[ke]
;B[kd]C[pokeball [1d\]: G11 NOW
T4L0N [1k\]: g11 h12 h11 j12 j11 k12 j10 is what Poke is saying.
bert [4d?\]: L15 a mistake, surely
pokeball [1d\]: m14
nononono22: the w plan is to make o13 work
nononono22: but he has too few liberties to make it work
]
(;W[ge])
(;W[he]
;B[kf]C[pokeball [1d\]: b15 b8
jungtsoyde: hi pokeball
jungtsoyde: do you have all the pokemon manga's collection?
jungtsoyde: and nice nickname
pokeball [1d\]: no, but i have catch'em all.
]
;W[ii]
;B[hi]
;W[jf]C[pokeball [1d\]: some balls contain nerves, i contain pokemon.
nepal999 [1d?\]: t8?
pokeball [1d\]: s7?
nepal999 [1d?\]: what do you do after s7 t8?
sam021527 [7k\]: S7 work?
pokeball [1d\]: i dont know why no one did g11 tho
]
;B[dk]
;W[lf]C[Pliniofilo [2d\]: o13 now ?
jungtsoyde: i want one charmander
Warfreak2 [5d?\]: thanks, professor oak, for my bulbasaur
Zahlman [1k\]: n14 big enough? other than that I can really only see s7...
]
;B[mf]C[BoSunHac [4d\]: s7 would loose you a lot of points
Zahlman [1k\]: not working? that's a shame, considering how ugly the w shape is
nepal999 [1d?\]: o13 works now?
skyywalker [2d\]: yes o13 work
Zahlman [1k\]: o13 o12 n13 m12, so what?
skyywalker [2d\]: n15 o14 o15 p14 o16 
Zahlman [1k\]: oh, of course
skyywalker [2d\]:  ut black may have a plan... 
jungtsoyde: any link for watch?
Zahlman [1k\]: I should hope so, at this level of play
]
;W[ng]
;B[nh]
;W[mg]
;B[lh]C[skyywalker [2d\]: thix is the game
]
;W[me]
;B[ne]C[Javaness [2d\]: do they still use EPM in finland
skyywalker [2d\]: ah... 
Zahlman [1k\]: ok, just containing, then.
]
;W[nf]
;B[le]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: Java not sure about that, but we still hunt squirrels with crossbows
]
;W[kf]
;B[mf]C[Zahlman [1k\]: ok, the ko is a bonus at least :)
]
;W[be]
;B[bd]
;W[me]C[Zahlman [1k\]: can p14 if no threat
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no we have switched to SPB starting last year
Zahlman [1k\]: SPB?
BoSunHac [4d\]: p14 leaves weakness
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: *SBP
BoSunHac [4d\]: at r13
Zahlman [1k\]: what is that
Javaness [2d\]: super * pimp
Zahlman [1k\]: :/
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: I'll tell you if you promise not to ban me ;)
jungtsoyde: ty
]
;B[rm]C[Zahlman [1k\]: lol
Javaness [2d\]: too late
skyywalker [2d\]: what is the time left? 
Feelss [4k\]: ignore
skyywalker [2d\]: no ignore! 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 19 minutes for white and 24 minutes for black
Zahlman [1k\]: this is a pretty big threat
T4L0N [1k\]:  this threat is huge
BoSunHac [4d\]: but this threat also looses many points
skyywalker [2d\]: and that ko is in white favor
BoSunHac [4d\]: shows that the ko is quite heavy for black
jungtsoyde: eurogo is this live?
klausP [7d?\]: actually no other move than t8 will do here
vieras123: yup
klausP [7d?\]: so w can just take it and hope
]
;W[ql]C[Zahlman [1k\]: what can w threaten?
jungtsoyde: send me the link pls
Zahlman [1k\]: !
klausP [7d?\]: whut?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes this is live
skyywalker [2d\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Zahlman [1k\]: r8 = fewer follow-up threats maybe?
BoSunHac [4d\]: r8 is very strange
]
;B[mf]C[jungtsoyde: thanks skywalker my young padawan
skyywalker [2d\]: less threat left? 
klausP [7d?\]: r8 leaves less threats but w not leading
]
;W[co]C[klausP [7d?\]: so he should fight immo
]
;B[bo]
;W[me]C[Zahlman [1k\]: but it's hard for w to find threats...
jungtsoyde: okey i am back
Zahlman [1k\]: to the extent that b has weak groups, the problem is solved by resolving the ko
jungtsoyde: no sound?
klausP [7d?\]: maybe even t8 will win now
klausP [7d?\]: to lazy to count
Zahlman [1k\]: k18?
jungtsoyde: eurogo, why no sound?
ptitlou [3d\]: is w aiming at q13 ?
Zahlman [1k\]: I can't see q13 changing much
]
;B[pf]C[jungtsoyde: ok now it's with sound
jungtsoyde: thanks
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you're welcome :)
blurb1: what can u hear pls tell^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: The broadcast is done with a mobile phone so the sound quality might not be the best tho
jungtsoyde: sound of stones
]
;W[sl]C[jungtsoyde: and ambience
]
;B[mf]
;W[dp]C[jungtsoyde: and the sound of hiting the clock, exciting :))
]
;B[cq]
;W[me]C[jungtsoyde: i need some tea
]
;B[bj]C[blurb1: i expect finish go fans drinking beer and talking about the moves in the back xD
nepal999 [1d?\]: b10 says screw the ko, im winning anyway?
medical [3k\]: here in helsinki is Takapotku situated this year?
medical [3k\]: *where
Pl4typus [8k\]: Its at the helsinki university
medical [3k\]: ok, thanks
]
;W[cj]
;B[ck]
;W[bi]
;B[mf]C[jungtsoyde: instead of tea at   9 am, i get some pepsi
nononono22: finnish go fans or finished go fans?
blurb1: is there a diff?
Pl4typus [8k\]: yes
Pl4typus [8k\]: a huge one C:
]
;W[il]
;B[me]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: the game is a lot closer now
Zahlman [1k\]: wait, how did w get t8? took gote for it? gave up on the ko? I turn away for a minute...
cityofsol: ignored Q14
skyywalker [2d\]: black did play q14 and white T8
Zahlman [1k\]: ... interesting
]
;W[gk]C[skyywalker [2d\]: white as good potential
jungtsoyde: who is winning !?
moyomaster [2k\]: white
skyywalker [2d\]: no black is ahead
skyywalker [2d\]: but it is close
moyomaster [2k\]: ?
moyomaster [2k\]: i suck at counting so maybe ;)
skyywalker [2d\]: maybe 5 pts ahead ?
moyomaster [2k\]: i thought white was up by like 10ish hehe
marfg [1k\]: 5 points is not so close.
]
;B[ih]
;W[fr]
;B[rs]
;W[rq]
;B[hq]C[nononono22: inb4 k17 ko soon ^TM
StepbyStep [5d\]: f18 or c1
Feelss [4k\]: f18
]
;W[cs]C[moyomaster [2k\]: or not 
skyywalker [2d\]: 69 for black / 70 for white (including komi)
]
;B[cr]
;W[es]
;B[bs]C[StepbyStep [5d\]: tenuki 
skyywalker [2d\]: forget captures...
daimaouyun [2k\]:  close game like i said =)
moyomaster [2k\]: yep
]
;W[fa]C[skyywalker [2d\]: very close
nepal999 [1d?\]: b about 75
skyywalker [2d\]: white ahead now whith the monkey
]
;B[de]
;W[df]C[Minjhou [8k\]: f19 better than f18? or, why f19?
]
;B[ce]
;W[bf]C[jojo1 [7k\]: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
aldero [?\]: e14?
]
;B[hk]
;W[hl]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: if f18 then w has f19 g19 and w needs to connect. so b has sente move
]
;B[jo]
;W[jn]C[medical [3k\]: the stream gives a nice soundtrack for watching the game on kgs :)
StepbyStep [5d\]: white f13 should be nice
nepal999 [1d?\]: now f18 g18 e19 proably not sente
nepal999 [1d?\]: so i think thats why
Minjhou [8k\]: hmm.. ty
Minjhou [8k\]: I'll try to understand it better
]
;B[oi]
;W[oj]C[StepbyStep [5d\]: no e2 better
StepbyStep [5d\]: e12
]
;B[hd]C[skyywalker [2d\]: if white played F18, the local situation is sente-sente, then black will play it directly...
Zahlman [1k\]: seems like w is getting all the nice yose points
]
;W[jc]
;B[jd]C[StepbyStep [5d\]: g15
]
;W[ge]C[medical [3k\]: w g15?
aldero [?\]: what was h16 for?
laoky [4d\]: tricking w
skyywalker [2d\]: try to capture k14 
]
;B[bk]C[skyywalker [2d\]: and got B9 sente
StepbyStep [5d\]: h16 g16 f15 e14 f18 g18 then black atari at g15 white g17 and white group k14 probably dead
]
;W[ad]
;B[ac]
;W[ae]
;B[bb]C[aldero [?\]: why seems e14 useless?
]
;W[eh]C[skyywalker [2d\]: e14 e13 f14 f13 g14 g13 f15 h14 e15  gote for black and white resist
]
;B[fb]
;W[gb]
;B[ef]
;W[fe]
;B[fg]
;W[eg]C[Step [4d\]: e19 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: time left: white 14, black 19 minutes
]
;B[ff]C[blurb1: e19 is gote isnt it
skyywalker [2d\]: d1 bigger 
]
;W[ea]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: no
Feelss [4k\]: h2?
]
;B[da]
;W[ga]
;B[db]C[daimaouyun [2k\]: white seems to be winning
Step [4d\]: d1 
daimaouyun [2k\]: if i counted right
Step [4d\]: b2 h2 
KaaXeM [1k\]: j14 
]
;W[hr]C[aldero [?\]: white is ahead, isn't he?
]
;B[ir]
;W[hp]C[GoldRoger7 [2d\]: he is
daimaouyun [2k\]: yeah and with that all the black will win for sure people have to rethink what they said
skyywalker [2d\]: if not D18, White can d18 c19 c17 d16 b17 
Step [4d\]: d1 before
]
;B[jq]C[toved2 [12k\]: what byomi?
aldero [?\]: is it possible to trick white with e7 and e8?
]
;W[gr]
;B[fk]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: e8 would be a good trick
]
;W[fl]C[blurb1: reply to c17 is c18
]
;B[gj]
(;W[fm])
(;W[gl]
;B[ai]C[blurb1: so im not sure why he defend
Thoravatar [4d\]: well it is close, good endgame by black may turn the game around
skyywalker [2d\]: c18 d17 
]
;W[ah]C[pantyshot [2k?\]: how can white win this, when there is a 3 stone difference.. I'd understand if we were talking about 20k vs 23k but 3d vs 6d?
]
;B[aj]C[jungtsoyde: would be cool an usb or wiifi goban made for kgs and tools
skyywalker [2d\]: damezumari
daimaouyun [2k\]: its possible since its go
blurb1: thx
]
;W[bh]C[daimaouyun [2k\]: if the stronger one always wins
]
;B[dm]C[daimaouyun [2k\]: it would be uninteresting
]
;W[em]C[daimaouyun [2k\]: no?
pantyshot [2k?\]: that's why there is handicap in go..
]
;B[lj]
;W[lk]
;B[mi]
;W[nj]C[pantyshot [2k?\]: to make it interesting
jungtsoyde: but why is alexey B?
nepal999 [1d?\]: young dans improve so 3d might be on way to 4d and old dans lose sharpness so 6d might be 5d
]
;B[ds]C[daimaouyun [2k\]: handicap is all good but it only works for making the gap closer
magicalben [-\]: A rank is nothing absolute. mere an average over many games. In a single game, nobody knows.
Thoravatar [4d\]: D starts to look quite big to me
Thoravatar [4d\]: hmm
pantyshot [2k?\]: what I'm trying to say is, that they'd usually play with 2 or 3 stones handicap, and it would be a slaughter then
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: there are in fact usb gobans, but they are quite costly and don't support kgs
daimaouyun [2k\]: but still its not a garanted win
pantyshot [2k?\]: so there seems to be something off with one of their ranks
jungtsoyde: really eurogo?
jungtsoyde: nice
Wang1 [1k\]: Who's ahead?
Feelss [4k\]: d9
skyywalker [2d\]: 83 for white, 81 for black
StepbyStep [5d\]: white
aldero [?\]: with h14 b can capture h13
Javaness [2d\]: black should catch up in the yose a little
magicalben [-\]: pantyshot, if they play 20 games one might say something perhaps. But one single game? Don't think one could say so much. Bad / good day could explain everything. 
pantyshot [2k?\]: mh, probably
pantyshot [2k?\]: will they play more rounds today?
jungtsoyde: well
Javaness [2d\]: but i feel white will win by 2.5, no further comments
jungtsoyde: maybe
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: there are two more rounds today
pantyshot [2k?\]: k
gooooo [-\]: is there any pairing up?
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;W[jh]
;B[ji]C[Thoravatar [4d\]: white should be careful there
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;W[hh]C[StepbyStep [5d\]: i was thinking first q11
aldero [?\]: h14 might do the trick
StepbyStep [5d\]: or e9
blurb1: eurostats say 3d has 5.3% against 6d this year so far^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Big margin for white, it seems like -Antti
pantyshot [2k?\]: where did you look that up, blurb?
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;B[oa]C[blurb1: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/winning_stats.php
Wang1 [1k\]: Where's 9d?
pantyshot [2k?\]: thank you
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;W[mb]C[goren2 [2k\]: who's antti?
]
(;B[cn]
;W[do]C[nononono22: tien
nepal999 [1d?\]: not n19?
blurb1: it just goes up to 6d in europe
gooooo [-\]: eurogotv1, is antti playing in the tournament?
goren2 [2k\]: whay was he mentioned?
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;B[er]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes he is
blurb1: though there are "rating"-7&8Dans its not official
goren2 [2k\]: perhaps w g13 is ok?
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(;B[kp]
;W[lo]
;B[cn]C[Feelss [4k\]: lol
gooooo [-\]: eurogotv1, when does next round start?
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;W[do]
;B[er]C[moyomaster [2k\]: who won? white?
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;W[fs]C[Namaskar [2k\]: slightly ahead
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;B[ij]C[Wang1 [1k\]: B:72 , W:72 
skyywalker [2d\]: white win by 0.5 but black sente
Wang1 [1k\]: W won.
Dortmunder [4d\]: t9
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;W[hf]C[moyomaster [2k\]: ty
StepbyStep [5d\]: arf g12 was sente
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;B[fh]C[Thoravatar [4d\]: -1 p?
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;W[ei]
;B[sk]C[Thoravatar [4d\]: - 1p sente i mean
StepbyStep [5d\]: yes
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;W[pi]
;B[ph]
;W[na]
;B[pa]C[nononono22: p3
Wang1 [1k\]: T2
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: next round is at 14:30 local time (gmt+3)
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;W[is]
;B[js]
;W[hs]
;B[dj]
;W[di]C[Excalibor [7k\]: why did w give up sente now?
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;B[oq]C[Thoravatar [4d\]: p3
Namaskar [2k\]: this was w sente
skyywalker [2d\]: f11 ! 
goren2 [2k\]: f11
gooooo [-\]: eurogotv1, so in about 1h30min?
Wang1 [1k\]: D8
gooooo [-\]: thanks btw
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;W[fi]
;B[gi]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes
Excalibor [7k\]: yes, and d8, e9 and other moves before j1...
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;W[dl]
;B[cl]C[GoldRoger7 [2d\]: p3 was so huge...
goren2 [2k\]: j13
Wang1 [1k\]: L 10
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;W[gq]C[Excalibor [7k\]: but giving up sente in the end of yose is painful
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;B[kj]C[Wang1 [1k\]: end game is difficult.
Excalibor [7k\]: yes it is
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;W[ig]
;B[ie]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: well w won by 64 points
goren2 [2k\]: t2
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;W[sr]C[moyomaster [2k\]: endgame is counting 
nepal999 [1d?\]: according to SE
Wang1 [1k\]: j 11
GoldRoger7 [2d\]: close
moyomaster [2k\]: w+5
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;B[ii]C[Excalibor [7k\]: g16 is 1 point for white
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;W[iq]C[SirEttin [1d\]: yah
Wang1 [1k\]: last ko
gooooo [-\]: g16 is a nice threat for black
Thoravatar [4d\]: r1
Excalibor [7k\]: it's worth more than the ko itself
nepal999 [1d?\]: g16 no point
Wang1 [1k\]: anyway w won.
Excalibor [7k\]: ah, yes, w has to connect
skyywalker [2d\]: 85.5 / 80
skyywalker [2d\]: w win
Wang1 [1k\]: 3d beated 6d. omg.
Excalibor [7k\]: nice :-)
nepal999 [1d?\]: w really turned it around
blurb1: vikings are scary xD
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: by the way komi is 7 in this tournament
Thoravatar [4d\]: hmm
moyomaster [2k\]: 7?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so draws are possible
Wang1 [1k\]: not 7.5?
daimaouyun [2k\]: 7 is common
moyomaster [2k\]: wow
Thoravatar [4d\]: that's nice, i like jigo
moyomaster [2k\]: odd
Excalibor [7k\]: so there's the possibility of jigo, interesting
Wang1 [1k\]: wow
polol: komi is also an even number in ING tournaments
polol: as in an integer
Thoravatar [4d\]: but no jigo there
polol: but when the game ends in a draw, white wins
moyomaster [2k\]: lol
moyomaster [2k\]: just give it an extra .5 then
moyomaster [2k\]: xD
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;B[qs]
;W[qq]
;B[hq]C[Trumelunki [3d\]: congratulations Simo
polol: or just like 0.001
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no in ing rules black wins draws with the komi being 8
polol: komi could be 8.0000102910
daimaouyun [2k\]: w+ 4,5 estimated end
moyomaster [2k\]: komi is 8? wow
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: efectively 7,5
Thoravatar [4d\]: komi in Japanese is 2*pi
moyomaster [2k\]: seems like a lot
nepal999 [1d?\]: it says 6.5 in the game tules
vieras123: 7
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;W[ss]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: apple pi?
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;B[os]C[skyywalker [2d\]: if white win the ko, she win by 5.5, if black win the ko, 4.5
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;W[iq]
;B[gd]
;W[gc]
;B[hq]
;W[ek]
;B[fj]
;W[iq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so it does. doesn't mean that's correct tho. 
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;B[]
;W[hq]C[SirEttin [1d\]: O5
cbcvcvcv [2k\]: komi is 6.5?
Javaness [2d\]: what ruleset are you using?
moyomaster [2k\]: komi is 7
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: white +6 is the official result
moyomaster [2k\]: thanks
Marta [6k\]: yaaaaaay
daimaouyun [2k\]: white  won as i said in the beginning
daimaouyun [2k\]: =)
nepal999 [1d?\]: b pointing at the n14 ko as if he's not happy about that area
skyywalker [2d\]: thank you for retransmission
kt123 [3d\]: GJ Darchik!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the next round is in an hour and a and a quarter. see you all the and thanks for watching
medical [3k\]: \\o/
daimaouyun [2k\]: thanks for broadcasting the game
nepal999 [1d?\]: thanks eurogo
Wang1 [1k\]: good game
jungtsoyde: how old is alexey?!?
Backflash [-\]: old
Javaness [2d\]: go simo
Javaness [2d\]: thanks egtv1
SIscurge [5d\]: Nice Simo :)
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