(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]
GN[Takapotku Open 2013 Round 2 Board 1]PW[Olli Hella]PB[Mikko Nevala]WR[3d]BR[4d]DT[2013-06-08]EV[Takapotku]RO[2]PC[Helsinki]US[lupis]C[go [-\]: let us enjoy the empty board for a moment
ibd [-\]: hi all
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;B[qd]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and of we go
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;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dd]
;B[oc]C[ibd [-\]: where are the players from?
]
;W[po]C[Sheriffi [-\]: Finland
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;B[qo]
;W[qn]
;B[qp]C[Wang1 [1k\]: both?
Sheriffi [-\]: yep
Wang1 [1k\]: wow
]
;W[pm]C[go [-\]: go lupis
ibd [-\]: b r11?
]
;B[nq]
;W[qi]
;B[qg]
;W[oi]C[go [-\]: so far pretty normal fuseki
]
;AE[dd]AW[dc]C[ibd [-\]: right
go [-\]: oh, except from the undo
medical [3k\]: :)
]
;B[ce]C[Javaness [2d\]: their play is too classical for my taste
go [-\]: a bit more imagination would suit you better ian ?
Ranchan [1k\]: now this is a game I can understand 
Backflash [-\]: f16 to make it as simple as possible?
ibd [-\]: what are w's options here?
]
;W[dh]C[ibd [-\]: ah this one :p
Backflash [-\]: or d12, yes
jojo1 [7k\]: live stream;http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
go [-\]: f15 now ?
Backflash [-\]: tesbook moves incoming 
Backflash [-\]: x*
ibd [-\]: I think f15 would be a bit better for w here
ibd [-\]: so maybe b won't play it
Backflash [-\]: f15 suicide
Wang1 [1k\]: looks like pros' opening.
rats [2d?\]: r13 looks so close
Backflash [-\]: every game in ama life looks like pro opening
go [-\]: r13 is extremely big though
]
;B[fe]C[ibd [-\]: are you transcribing from this stream? the quality is a bit meh
go [-\]: next guess g17 
Wang1 [1k\]: E 15
ibd [-\]: d15
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no I'm scribing live at the site.
Backflash [-\]: Wang1 thought of it too, complicated?
Wang1 [1k\]: d15 is the worst move
ibd [-\]: why is that?
]
;W[gc]C[Wang1 [1k\]: Because it's the worst.
rats [2d?\]: nothing beats the facts
ibd [-\]: wow. :p
Wang1 [1k\]: This move is quite good.
]
;B[hd]
;W[hc]
;B[id]C[Backflash [-\]: and boring
]
;W[ic]
;B[jd]
;W[kc]
;B[dj]C[Wang1 [1k\]: nice attack.
Backflash [-\]: that is why i don't like g17
Wang1 [1k\]: G 12
rats [2d?\]: after black pays so much, d12 can be sacrificed
Backflash [-\]: not f12?
Wang1 [1k\]: f12 looks slow.
ibd [-\]: maybe tenuki
Backflash [-\]: wait, w shouldn't run here
ibd [-\]: k4 or so :)
Backflash [-\]: i'd try to make some moyo on the side, while cornering d10
Backflash [-\]: no idea how though
go [-\]: the focus seems to be on the left
Wang1 [1k\]: g12 or c16
Backflash [-\]: g12 gives up the side?
Backflash [-\]: and possibly corner
Backflash [-\]: part of it *
]
;W[fg]C[ibd [-\]: interesting move
Wang1 [1k\]: yes
go [-\]: since white's groups are pretty safe, he can fight here
Backflash [-\]: seems obvious plan for b to see
ibd [-\]: aiming for the cut?
Wang1 [1k\]: probably.
Wang1 [1k\]: E 16?
Backflash [-\]: is it sente?
ibd [-\]: I like e16
]
;B[fi]C[Backflash [-\]: plus be may f11
Backflash [-\]: yea, that's what i thought
Backflash [-\]: w*
Backflash [-\]: c15 plus this stone may survive on its own if nothing changes
]
;W[de]
;B[df]
;W[ee]C[ibd [-\]: shape move?
Backflash [-\]: seems like it
Backflash [-\]: id e14 without thinking
Backflash [-\]: and probabply be wrong
ibd [-\]: b c16?
Pl4typus [8k\]: I was about to go this tournament, but yesterday's Avicii's Concert killed me :/
]
;B[ef]C[Backflash [-\]: c16 makes w stronger
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;W[ff]C[ibd [-\]: you are right
nepal999 [1d?\]: c16 is fine, maybe f16 first
Backflash [-\]: i'd play f16 now, but is there somehting better maybe?
]
;B[cd]C[Backflash [-\]: hm
Backflash [-\]: ah, for c12?
ibd [-\]: :)
Luffyy [3d\]: where's the tournament ?
apina [1d\]: Helsinki
alfi [3k\]: c17
Backflash [-\]: in other game tab
Luffyy [3d\]: thx
alfi [3k\]: c17, because b has to protect c 14 after
alfi [3k\]: ?
Backflash [-\]: what if c13 first?
ibd [-\]: maybe w is not happy with c17 right now
alfi [3k\]: takes opportunity for w to play c 14
alfi [3k\]: why ibd ?
Backflash [-\]: c17 f16 e17 ?
nepal999 [1d?\]: maeda is from the difficult go problems books?
Backflash [-\]: and h14 , w is cornered ?
alfi [3k\]: c17, f16, c13
alfi [3k\]: nvm
ibd [-\]: because it's a passive way of playing
nepal999 [1d?\]: both players are finnish?
Backflash [-\]: yes
nepal999 [1d?\]: i like c17 here
Backflash [-\]: c17 is opportunity for b?
alfi [3k\]: its presseuring b I guesa
]
;W[dd]C[alfi [3k\]: guess
Backflash [-\]: hm
Backflash [-\]: gives a bit of pts,  bad for end game i think
alfi [3k\]:  that's passive
]
;B[cc]C[ibd [-\]: maybe w aiming for g15?
alfi [3k\]: h14 is better 
Backflash [-\]: simple as that eh?:)
nepal999 [1d?\]: this looks really bad for w
Backflash [-\]: c17 at least gave some pts
alfi [3k\]: I agree
]
;W[cf]C[Backflash [-\]: d18 haha
alfi [3k\]: b can't c 13
makinen [2d?\]: looks not so bad anymore :)
Backflash [-\]: b can c13, c13 b14 d13 ? or i don't see something again?
Backflash [-\]: i guess i don't see libs count:)
alfi [3k\]: c13 instead of d13
medical [3k\]: it's ok for w to sacrifice c14 stone for greater good
medical [3k\]: right?
Wang1 [1k\]: d 18
alfi [3k\]: why sacrafice it ? for Sente ?
medical [3k\]: sente ftw :)
ibd [-\]: for squeezing? :p
alfi [3k\]: after b14 anyway a aceptable result for w, two groups to attack
medical [3k\]: w can start attacking d9 stones if he gets strong in sente
medical [3k\]: for example
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;B[cg]C[medical [3k\]: or, yeah. both groups :D
nepal999 [1d?\]: hmm
Backflash [-\]: d13 happening i tell you!
]
;W[dg]C[alfi [3k\]: b read more than me, but that's not to hard
]
;B[bf]
;W[eg]C[ibd [-\]: w likes the empty triangle
Backflash [-\]: inflence wise it's not that badr w
Backflash [-\]: for*
nepal999 [1d?\]: i thought w could c14
Backflash [-\]: nope
Backflash [-\]: view offline
alfi [3k\]: I dont like e 13
ibd [-\]: b f16
snowman [-\]: it has more value now than later
medical [3k\]: w didn't like having two cutting points
medical [3k\]: or cutting points at all.
alfi [3k\]: seems so
Backflash [-\]: d18
Backflash [-\]: or tenuki
]
;B[cn]
;W[co]
;B[dn]
;W[fq]C[Backflash [-\]: wow that side
Backflash [-\]: c12 a must?
]
;B[le]
;W[lc]C[ibd [-\]: k4
gaspard0 [2d\]: c3 probe
gaspard0 [2d\]: to see what w wants
mels [1k\]: j14 for simmetric
DocBaldwin [1k\]: C12 feels pretty big...
DocBaldwin [1k\]: possibly C11
]
;B[db]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: j14 misses both vital points bij 1 spot :)
gaspard0 [2d\]: but then w plays b6 and secures corner. and b is not left with too big territory
]
;W[cf]C[LadyMarion [1k\]: black has not so little territory, I think.
]
;B[ep]
;W[eq]
;B[cq]C[Backflash [-\]: 3 corners heh
]
;W[do]
;B[bo]
;W[bp]
;B[bn]
;W[bq]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: did w play this properly?
]
;B[gp]
;W[fp]
;B[gn]
;W[nd]
;B[ih]
;W[ij]
;B[ki]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: time left: white 15min and black 21min
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;W[ji]
;B[jh]
;W[kj]
;B[lj]
;W[li]
;B[kh]
;W[mi]
;B[kk]
;W[jj]
;B[lk]
;W[il]
;B[kn]
;W[in]
;B[jm]
;W[im]
;B[kp]
;W[jo]
;B[ko]
;W[fk]C[Bonpoc [4k\]: j7 need to survive
]
;B[fj]
;W[ek]
;B[dk]
;W[hi]
;B[hh]
;W[gh]
;B[gi]
;W[iq]
;B[ql]
;W[rm]
;B[pj]
;W[pi]
;B[rj]
;W[qj]
;B[qk]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: there is what sounds to be a samba parade headding our way :)
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;W[ok]
;B[ri]C[Wang1 [1k\]: b win
]
;W[op]
;B[oq]C[sinsai [4d\]: p8 b
]
;W[jl]
;B[mm]
;W[nm]
;B[gk]
;W[fm]
;B[fn]
;W[gl]
;B[gq]C[sinsai [4d\]: e6..
]
;W[ho]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: what is happening here..
SanRenSei [-\]: how much time did they start with?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: now black gets e5 in sente
devasatyam [4k\]: f6 getting the snip
]
;B[eo]C[dimuls [6k\]: b tries to kill center, doesn't she?
]
;W[dq]C[blackstorm [3k\]: mikko is a woman?
Fluttershy [?\]: nope
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: times are 45 minutes with a 20 second increment
SanRenSei [-\]: thanks
blackstorm [3k\]: g5 ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no. both players are male
StepbyStep [5d\]: g5 and e10 miai for white
blackstorm [3k\]: thx
blackstorm [3k\]: someone said doesnt she that confused me ^^
]
;B[jq]
;W[ir]
;B[go]
;W[em]
;B[en]
;W[ej]C[dimuls [6k\]: i just tried to guess
]
;B[di]
;W[ei]C[dimuls [6k\]: sorry:3
makinen [2d?\]: c12
snowman [-\]: that was your kill, then
]
;B[ch]
;W[lg]C[jungtsoyde: eurogotv 1 = harry?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: nope
jungtsoyde: ah
]
;B[mf]
;W[kf]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you can often see who is scribing from options->rules
blackstorm [3k\]: m 16
]
;B[lh]C[jungtsoyde: really?
jungtsoyde: lupis
devasatyam [4k\]: lupis?
jungtsoyde: cool euro, i did not know that
jungtsoyde: now i will always check
]
;W[mg]
;B[mh]C[Jermelle [5k?\]: wouldn't it be odd to have somebody watching your everymove?
Jermelle [5k?\]: I am watching it live and they seem fine about it tho XD
devasatyam [4k\]: im used to it
jungtsoyde: they are used to do it 
jungtsoyde: lots and lots and lots of tournaments
jungtsoyde: with cams, photos,
atlbrandon [1d\]: o12
slownet [-\]: b alive 
Jermelle [5k?\]: uh-oh one of them is starting to bite his nails
]
;W[qh]
;B[rh]C[jungtsoyde: white looks like narutop
jungtsoyde: =d
Jermelle [5k?\]: lol
]
;W[nh]C[jungtsoyde: remember the taxy guy from hng?
SanRenSei [-\]: kawai san?
edenchen [1k\]: o10 
jungtsoyde: yes kawai
]
;B[ng]
;W[nf]C[LadyMarion [1d\]: oh, is mikko getting probs?
edenchen [1k\]: o10 
jungtsoyde: look
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: having o10 in reserve will get him back out of them I think
jungtsoyde: w's picture http://sakuraember.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/snapshot20100518193151.jpg
jungtsoyde: :) jk
]
;B[og]C[tadanobu [7k\]: nice one ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: white is on his last minute now
jungtsoyde: what is the byo
]
;W[jf]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black still has 10 minutes
]
;B[nj]C[jungtsoyde: i really must sleep a bit good night
slownet [-\]: resign coming soon
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no byo-yomi, but 20 seconds are added to the clock after each move
]
;W[oj]
;B[ni]
;W[pg]C[roussos [3k\]: So byo-yomi is 1 period of 20 seconds... No?
]
;B[oh]
;W[qf]
;B[rg]C[Sheriffi [-\]: no
]
;W[of]
;B[rf]C[ibd [-\]: it's more like canadian overtime
]
;W[hf]C[gepay [3k\]: w gets a big top
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: not all that close to either as you can save up time again by playing a couple of moves fast
DarkLord7 [2k\]: fischer time
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes also known as Fisher
]
;B[gg]
;W[gf]
;B[fh]
;W[hg]
;B[gh]
;W[dl]C[blurb1: how did antti do in the first rounds?
]
;B[cl]C[Muttley [3k\]: Known as Fischer, but Bronstein came up with it first
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Antti won in the first round and isn't done yet for this one
]
;W[jr]C[Sheriffi [-\]: blurb1: results are found at http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/urtela/tournaments/wall_1.html
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no Bronstein is mearly a delay
blurb1: thx
]
;B[fr]
;W[er]C[Muttley [3k\]: mm, ok
]
;B[gr]
;W[jp]
;B[kq]
;W[kr]
;B[lr]
;W[hk]C[nepal999 [1d?\]: o17 
]
;B[gj]
;W[ck]
;B[dm]
;W[el]
;B[bk]
;W[nc]
;B[hp]
;W[ip]
;B[hm]
;W[gm]
;B[hn]
;W[hl]
;B[ob]
;W[eb]
;B[nn]
;W[om]
;B[qe]
;W[pf]
;B[jn]
;W[io]
;B[cb]C[atlbrandon [1d\]: o18
]
;W[ro]
;B[rp]
;W[sp]C[atlbrandon [1d\]: or o19
]
;B[sq]
;W[so]C[ZeNit [?\]: o19 better
]
;B[rq]
;W[rl]C[tralala [6k\]: keep sente
]
;B[rk]
;W[ml]
;B[lm]C[randomID [4d?\]: b up by 12, komi included ?
]
;W[mk]
;B[mj]C[atlbrandon [1d\]: SE is just a fail
]
;W[ls]
;B[mr]
;W[nb]
;B[na]
;W[ma]
;B[oa]
;W[mb]
;B[ea]
;W[fb]
;B[jk]
;W[ks]
;B[nk]
;W[nl]
;B[kg]
;W[lf]
;B[ig]
;W[if]
;B[cr]
;W[br]
;B[es]
;W[ds]
;B[gs]C[atlbrandon [1d\]: j1
]
;W[fs]C[tralala [6k\]: no need
]
;B[is]C[goren2 [2k\]: h1
]
;W[eh]
;B[pl]
;W[ol]
;B[no]
;W[od]
;B[pd]
;W[ms]
;B[ns]C[Thoravatar [4d\]: d14 pls
]
;W[fa]C[pspl [2d\]: T8 
]
;B[sl]
;W[da]C[Thoravatar [4d\]: hmm nice one
edenchen [1k\]: OOH
edenchen [1k\]: ouch
edenchen [1k\]: nvm
]
;B[sm]C[edenchen [1k\]: I suck
]
;W[rn]
;B[ca]
;W[pe]
;B[pc]
;W[hj]
;B[df]
;W[kl]
;B[ll]
;W[ao]C[dimuls [6k\]: b p5
]
;B[oo]
;W[pp]
;B[np]
;W[pn]
;B[an]
;W[ap]C[atlbrandon [1d\]: b+
dimuls [6k\]: q9
]
;B[pk]
;W[es]C[edenchen [1k\]: e19 
]
;B[nh]
;W[ph]
;B[cf]C[atlbrandon [1d\]: :O
atlbrandon [1d\]: why not e19?
]
;W[ef]
;B[ea]C[Thoravatar [4d\]: he is first removing double ko-threats
FoH [1d\]: cuz c14 also 1 point
]
;W[hr]
;B[hs]C[handyman [2d\]: you give w a ko threat 
]
;W[da]C[FoH [1d\]: and d19 is 0/5 point
bert [4d?\]: preventing w threats first
]
;B[sk]
;W[ea]
;B[fo]C[handyman [2d\]: play double thread before the ko
Lesmian [1d\]: there is no 4th round in this tournament
Fluttershy [?\]: there is, tomorrow
Lesmian [1d\]: yes, fortunately, there is 5th and even 6th
Lesmian [1d\]: check eurogotv profile :)
Fluttershy [?\]: eurogotv, lol
Thoravatar [4d\]: rounds with four in the number bring bad luck
edenchen [1k\]: .
Thoravatar [4d\]: they should be skipped
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: next round is in just under an hour
Lesmian [1d\]: thx :)
dimuls [6k\]: who wins?
HoTing [2d\]: b
dimuls [6k\]: score?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: black wins by 12
dimuls [6k\]: thanx
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