(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[7.00]TM[2700]
GN[Takapotku Open 2013 Round 3 Board1]PW[Mikko Nevala]PB[Su Yang]WR[4d]BR[6d]DT[2013-06-08]RO[3]PC[Helsinki]US[lupis]C[gooooo [-\]: no byo?
JEGO [6k\]: what?
k23 [3k\]: ??
SYT [15k\]: nice
]
;B[qd]
;W[dc]C[rats [2d?\]: oh, wanted that to be the real move
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no
Naab [5k\]: oooo
]
(;B[nh])
(;B[dq]C[Naab [5k\]: master vs apprentice :p
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: it's fischer timing so no byo-yomi but 20 seconds are added to the players time after every move
]
;W[pq]
;B[ce]
;W[dh]C[Mysto [-\]: this opening reminded me of shusai for some reason lol
rats [2d?\]: i vote 2 point jump
Naab [5k\]: wait, what, nevala is white :D
Jermelle [5k?\]: B just got a huge bottle of coke
rats [2d?\]: define huge
Jermelle [5k?\]: Full size
miao [6d\]: please send my cheering to su yang
]
(;B[cm])
(;B[cn]C[alienist [5k\]: coke joseki?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry finicky touchpad
Mysto [-\]: definately reminds me of shusai lol
]
;W[de]C[alienist [5k\]: caffiene joseki blitz?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and yes it was a bottle of coke. Jeff was complaining before the round the he will end up doing an unpaid advert once again :)
]
;B[jc]C[Mysto [-\]: lol
Koyou [1d\]: >.<
sushichef [1k\]: among Jeff and Anti, is one clearly stronger?
Ikay [10k\]: o17...may be :)
]
;W[pk]C[miao [6d\]: not clear
miao [6d\]: Anti a little bit stonger maybe
sushichef [1k\]: I assume they have played in many tournaments?
miao [6d\]: q9 suspicious
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the live stram for the game can be found at http://www.eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
]
;B[mq]C[aldero [?\]: they play rather slow
]
;W[jp]
;B[pp]
;W[qp]
;B[qq]C[Jermelle [5k?\]: a cut?
kamistar [?\]: kisastudio parani heti kunnolla kun sai toisen näytön 
merga [7k\]: cut not cute
Herod [-\]: this is a serious tournament game, not just an online blitz, aldero
miao [6d\]: b is corret
Arsenic [1d\]: who's playing?
]
;W[qo]C[miao [6d\]: *correct
Jermelle [5k?\]: Wait, B is correct on doing a cut?
Jermelle [5k?\]: Would you mind telling me why?
miao [6d\]: here yes
Jermelle [5k?\]: <--- wanna learn this time
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Mikko Nevala 4d and Su Yang 6d
Arsenic [1d\]: thx
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: np
miao [6d\]: its is common joseki for small chinese
]
;B[pr]
;W[oq]
;B[or]
;W[rq]
;B[qr]C[Ikay [10k\]: quick question: does someone know how to copy a link wrote in kgs?
]
;W[op]C[EuroGoTV2 [-\]: btw, TV2 showing a match between Antti Törmänen (Tien) & Juuso Nyyssönen (Prodigious)
dzgst: you need to download the client to do that
miao [6d\]: stre c v
dzgst: if you are just using java you cannot
miao [6d\]: *strg
]
;B[nq]C[gobugobu [6d\]: o3 is what a pro would play
zife [4d?\]: strg = ctrl?
WuHoUnited [-\]: i feel like capturing is the proper move here
]
;W[oo]C[gobugobu [6d\]: no p5 is proper
fbp [7d\]: is q2 joseki?
Ikay [10k\]: ok i'm using java and ctrl+c doesn't work
aldero [?\]: strg = ctrl = yes
Ikay [10k\]: thx
Jermelle [5k?\]: Which he just did..
fbp [7d\]: maybe r5 is not joseki tho
aldero [?\]: try to type it :D
WuHoUnited [-\]: think black will go bottom or right?
aldero [?\]: is p5 slow?
WuHoUnited [-\]: i think right
Jermelle [5k?\]: I think Bottom
]
;B[qi]C[aldero [?\]: what is p5 for actually?
]
;W[oi]
;B[qg]C[BlindTaub [1k\]: biggest open space is R11
Rotfuchs [6k\]: now B can't run out that stone
BlindTaub [1k\]: oh he played it :)
Rukis [2k\]: hmmm
WuHoUnited [-\]: p5 is so black can't play a move around d14 and threaten to get out in a lodder
fbp [7d\]: r13:o
BlindTaub [1k\]: B taught me in the opening, look to the bggest open space
Jermelle [5k?\]: R13 is not that bad
aldero [?\]: but q4 was SO dead... anyway
Zatraz [?\]: I don't undestand anything :(
gobugobu [6d\]: not at all. p5 is the proper move, because it prevents a squeeze if B plays p5 himself
fbp [7d\]: or if b just goes out..
aldero [?\]: ok i get it
Rotfuchs [6k\]: ya, ladder doesn't work
Rotfuchs [6k\]: didn't work*
opeth563 [10k\]: but isn't too slow?
fbp [7d\]: r13 shows confidence at least
bareeagle: why not q13?
fbp [7d\]: slow and steady wins the race:)
aldero [?\]: yes I agree p5 is kind of slow for this moment
WuHoUnited [-\]: i do not like positions like this for white. hard to visualize a path forward for destroying territories
aldero [?\]: ok
Rotfuchs [6k\]: play on top side?
Rotfuchs [6k\]: i dont know where tho
BlindTaub [1k\]: wuho, just make some more of your own then?
bareeagle: Q13 also more protective for top side
WuHoUnited [-\]: only place i see white territory is at tl and that seems too slow to add another stone there
aldero [?\]: so w needs to invade?
goren2 [2k\]: huto playing
Ikay [10k\]: where is the weekness of d4 shape?
Jye [2k\]: c4 if anything
]
;W[od]C[fbp [7d\]: black can consider ignoring this
fbp [7d\]: and just play in upperleft
jyka [2k\]: su win last game ? 
Rotfuchs [6k\]: why is weaker player playing W?
expo [13k?\]: yes
Zatraz [?\]: Yeah i guessed it
WuHoUnited [-\]: it is tournament. wouldn't be fair to stronger players if they always played white
Rotfuchs [6k\]: oh ok, didn't see it was a tournament
Rukis [2k\]: Rot if you read your surrounds you would D:<
]
;B[mc]C[WuHoUnited [-\]: i like n17
Rukis [2k\]: whites gunna have hard time
]
;W[qc]C[aldero [?\]: q17?
Rukis [2k\]: no
Rotfuchs [6k\]: then just r17 by B
Rotfuchs [6k\]: then what?
WuHoUnited [-\]: n17 looks really good after it's played but i don't think i'd have considered it
bareeagle: s17
Rukis [2k\]: q17 puts r13 stones at risk if white plays for the outside
WuHoUnited [-\]: r13 stones not in too much trouble becaues they have s9
Jye [2k\]: if not q17, w splits... can't see b allowing that
aldero [?\]: but b should try to cut, shouldn't he?
WuHoUnited [-\]: white probably splits black anyway
Ikay [10k\]: p18 to don't leave him make easy eyes then cut p13
VongNguyet [1d\]: s17
Rukis [2k\]: lol
]
;B[rc]C[WuHoUnited [-\]: s17 makes everything safe
Ikay [10k\]: ok s1
Rukis [2k\]: someone get that man a pepsi instead!
fbp [7d\]: w should take sente now
fbp [7d\]: i feel
Mysto [-\]: u want him to lose that bad rukis?
fbp [7d\]: if w take gote here its over
aldero [?\]: so which would be a nice move to take sente?
WuHoUnited [-\]: i guess you are right. w still split even if white tenuki
apina [1d\]: kiitoksia urtelalle tuloksien laittamisesta nettiin
]
(;W[sf]C[Rukis [2k\]: No mysto pepsi is better then coke
])
(;W[ld]C[bareeagle: c16 also big
merga [7k\]: lol
WuHoUnited [-\]: noooo white! not 1st line
Pl4typus [8k\]: :D
Mysto [-\]: those is fightin words
sung [11k\]: eh
VongNguyet [1d\]: w wants big moyo ?
fbp [7d\]: this move looks random
]
;B[lc]C[fbp [7d\]: now what?
Pl4typus [8k\]: it doesn't seem to get white anywhere
]
;W[jd]C[Mysto [-\]: honestly, i like B's style, and on the flip side, im not a fan of how W plays O.o
aldero [?\]: w looking for big moyo probably
]
;B[id]C[KaXXoR [10k\]: black is having an easy gameto me
]
;W[kc]
;B[kb]
;W[kd]
;B[ic]C[WuHoUnited [-\]: moyo gonna have big holes
Falcon89 [2k?\]: yep
aldero [?\]: c9 for w?
prime [8k\]: i dont like moyos :( they always seem to get invaded :P
]
;W[md]
;B[nd]
;W[ne]
;B[nc]C[Zatraz [?\]: Big moyo for w, where in the center ?
Mysto [-\]: i like moyo's
Mysto [-\]: if ur opponent lets u have one, why not? ;)
fbp [7d\]: cant consider this a moyo
SIscurge [5d\]: Ouch, looks good for b doesn it it?
prime [8k\]: true
]
;W[rd]C[WuHoUnited [-\]: resign white!
Lukan [6d\]: to me, white's moves don't make sense..
fishpond [8k?\]: but.. but SE says W+82
Jermelle [5k?\]: XD
prime [8k\]: SE is drunk
WuHoUnited [-\]: s15, just solidify. let white get his couple of points
Jermelle [5k?\]: Never trust SE
Mysto [-\]: B looks just as confused lol
Jermelle [5k?\]: Wow
Jermelle [5k?\]: He looks like W just made the most stupid move ever
Mysto [-\]: this stream is either way behind for me, or eurogo is the ultimate in mind reading lol
Jermelle [5k?\]: And now he is chuckling?
fishpond [8k?\]: where's video?
Jermelle [5k?\]: Eurogotv.com
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the stream is a bit laggy yes.
aldero [?\]: http://www.eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1
Jermelle [5k?\]: Click on Live
Jermelle [5k?\]: Or just post a link...
]
;B[pc]
;W[qb]C[SIscurge [5d\]: ha
Lukan [6d\]: ...
Jermelle [5k?\]: Ouch...
Jermelle [5k?\]: what is W thinking
Ikay [10k\]: can't read this...
Gardan [?\]: something deep
Jermelle [5k?\]: ^ cant read what doesn't make sense
]
;B[pd]C[Ikay [10k\]: can he make a little group living in corner?
WuHoUnited [-\]: he lives in coner, but black all connected
KaXXoR [10k\]: what does w whant to do ?
KaXXoR [10k\]: i dont get it
Ikay [10k\]: yes but he have great influance in center so it doesn't look that bad to me
aldero [?\]: nobody doe
fbp [7d\]: b only play the simple move everywhere and let white defeat himself
aegon: maybe that's the point. he's trying to confuse he's opponent
fbp [7d\]: solid style
fishpond [8k?\]: what is that t-shirt B is wearing. looks like a rabbit with a black go stone
ptitlou [3d\]: may be p15 ?
Sheriffi [-\]: fishpond: it's egc 2010 shirt
apina [1d\]: do we have any guys from oulu tell us, how often these two play against each other in club?
bareeagle: get cornner
fishpond [8k?\]: thanks, sheriffi
Naab [5k\]: apina, quite a lot imo
kamistar [?\]: I'm bit inactive in oulu but I still have seen them play quite often
apina [1d\]: i think, black might have known in the beginning, that safe way to play is almost certain win for him
Jermelle [5k?\]: B looks a little smug to me
Zatraz [?\]: please, what is an imo ?
]
;W[re]C[hyomin [3d\]: in my opinion
Sheriffi [-\]: in my opinion, zatraz
Jermelle [5k?\]: In My Opinion
Zatraz [?\]: :)
Klor [1k\]: in my opinion
]
;B[rb]C[goren2 [2k\]: so many opinions
WuHoUnited [-\]: i didn't see a follow up for s15
goren2 [2k\]: but who is right?
TomoyaKun [3d\]: Eurogotv, how did the other Mikko do until now?
Zatraz [?\]: i see thanks !
VongNguyet [1d\]: su yang like a pig '.' 
WuHoUnited [-\]: q18 p18 q15 ?
]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]C[aldero [?\]: q18!?
Jermelle [5k?\]: Thats messed up
goren2 [2k\]: q15
aldero [?\]: w went suicidal
apina [1d\]: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/urtela/tournaments/wall_2.html
apina [1d\]: results
longkui [-\]: q15?
WuHoUnited [-\]: white q18 to make black get shortage of liberties so white can threaten connect
Falcon89 [2k?\]: VongNguyet, what do you mean?
Klor [1k\]: I don't think it was suicidal, more intentional
WuHoUnited [-\]: white could also r14 
]
;W[pe]C[Gardan [?\]: no really .. now b can't push and cut this
TomoyaKun [3d\]: thanks apina :)
Jermelle [5k?\]: Nice move
]
;B[oc]C[tnaeN [6k?\]: he can't ?
sinsai [4d\]: q14
mecisa [2k\]: well thre may be a ko
ptitlou [3d\]: w q14 I guess
]
;W[pf]C[mecisa [2k\]: no ko
bareeagle: w not bad
opeth563 [10k\]: black has to do somethig about the huge center that w is making
mecisa [2k\]: q18 worked perfectly
fishpond [8k?\]: SE now say W+98.. his stock rising fast  :)
Jermelle [5k?\]: lol
Jermelle [5k?\]: Honestly SE is way off
Gardan [?\]: lets see how b's next move then is 
Koyou [1d\]:  WWWAAYYYYYY off
Jermelle [5k?\]: Maybe W is winning, I'm not counting right now but W is not winning by that much
nepal999 [1d?\]: s9 i think
chan123 [2k\]: s9?
opeth563 [10k\]: if w kills the right then he still has a commanding lead
Gardan [?\]: none is winning yet
hyomin [3d\]: can't kill
Piggen [3k\]: p12 ?
rats [2d?\]: white's strange moves ended up looking quite good
aldero [?\]: can't kill?
opeth563 [10k\]: if b has no room for eyes then yea actually he can
mecisa [2k\]: s13 first
longkui [-\]: s13 nice threat
opeth563 [10k\]: s13 not sente
aldero [?\]: so now b should run or build territory
longkui [-\]: but not sure if he need s to use it
]
;B[rf]C[longkui [-\]: opeth, it threatens to cut
]
;W[qe]
;B[oh]C[longkui [-\]: but black likes this more :)
Piggen [3k\]: my move ^^
]
;W[nh]
;B[og]C[Koyou [1d\]: and now b going to make it extremely difficult for w
opeth563 [10k\]: w still has a ton of influence on the center
]
;W[ng]C[mecisa [2k\]: s9 now
]
;B[rk]C[TomoyaKun [3d\]: but open on 3 sides
TomoyaKun [3d\]: 4 if counting that b can live easily even starting from l9
Wang1 [1k\]: Go W!
opeth563 [10k\]: the center is?
fbp [7d\]: white played quite well here considering the situation before
Hokke [-\]: p15 can result well
]
;W[pi]C[hyomin [3d\]: so now white has to fix shape
Wang1 [1k\]: Is w influence quite good?
]
;B[qh]C[fishpond [8k?\]: if you have race horse, but it's raining out, race horse won't run well
longkui [-\]: we'll see how good it is soon
opeth563 [10k\]: why has nobody done anything on the left
Wang1 [1k\]: s8
]
;W[rl]C[TomoyaKun [3d\]: fishpond, that's the fun thing about go
fishpond [8k?\]: because you do urgent before big moves, opeth
TomoyaKun [3d\]: nothing is left to chance
]
;B[qj]
;W[qk]
;B[sj]C[opeth563 [10k\]: is r9 a better choice than r10?
aldero [?\]: now black has to play n5 or something to get into the center
bareeagle: m5
Wang1 [1k\]: T12 works?
WuHoUnited [-\]: works at what?
WuHoUnited [-\]: t12 t13 +
ptitlou [3d\]: o11 will be annoying w for long (except if he fixes it right now)
chan123 [2k\]: no
GoGott [-\]: t12 t13 s12 s11 
jyka [2k\]: b look like a scpecialist to have dead group in opneing
opeth563 [10k\]: t12 them t14
]
;W[ie]
;B[he]C[Falcon89 [2k?\]: t14 doesn't work for W
Piggen [3k\]: t12 s12 t14 t13 Ko?
WuHoUnited [-\]: t12 t13
GoGott [-\]: t12 t13 s12 s11  to live
awais [4k\]: no need for ko, wu is right
GoGott [-\]: ko is a bad variation
Falcon89 [2k?\]: Ko will be in B 's favor
Piggen [3k\]: oh
Zatraz [?\]: Can a 4d really win against a 6d ?
ptitlou [3d\]: yes
hyomin [3d\]: yes
]
;W[if]
;B[df]C[quinza [7k\]: yes
profan [-\]: what about r8 to live?
WuHoUnited [-\]: no Zat. it has never happened
awais [4k\]: in a small subset of all possible games, of course
GoGott [-\]: everything is possible^^
opeth563 [10k\]: i beat a 2k a couple days ago
kamistar [?\]: did 3 dan beat 6 dan on first round?
bareeagle: w owned some steps somewhere. need to pay.
opeth563 [10k\]: so why not
TomoyaKun [3d\]: a friend of mine, 1d started beating all 4ds in one tournament, almost made it against a 6d
jyka [2k\]: r12 is bad exchange for b 
awais [4k\]: that's just one case, you need n>30 for a normal distribution
awais [4k\]: give or take
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: earlier today in the touranmet a 3d beat a 6d, so I'd say yes a 4d can indeed beat a 6d
bareeagle: m5 both need
awais [4k\]: c14 complex here, easier to e15
bareeagle: too
]
;W[ef]C[aldero [?\]: yes m5 looks big
quinza [7k\]: I've seen a 4d beat a 6d and then lose to a 1k
opeth563 [10k\]: i don't like that at all
awais [4k\]: d13
WuHoUnited [-\]: m5 gote for white and still doesn't seal off center from the left
opeth563 [10k\]: why not run out with d16?
Naab [5k\]: what's going on at stream
awais [4k\]: a wall is very good for w
Zatraz [?\]: amazing, thx !
Achiles [?\]: being tired can make a big difference
VongNguyet [1d\]: b ahead ?
awais [4k\]: i think it's about even with w having more potential in the center
]
;B[dd]
;W[ee]
;B[cd]
;W[ed]
;B[cc]C[awais [4k\]: c14
awais [4k\]: or d13
]
;W[cf]
;B[bf]C[Ikay [10k\]: w moyo could be so huge
awais [4k\]: d13
aldero [?\]: if b has 4 corners...
awais [4k\]: better to take b stone here/
]
;W[eo]C[miao [6d\]: n or m6 big
awais [4k\]: w aggressive
]
;B[dp]
;W[lo]C[bareeagle: get sente and get m5
]
;B[of]
;W[oe]
;B[nf]
;W[mf]
;B[ni]C[awais [4k\]: oh man
aldero [?\]: wow b is agressive
awais [4k\]: key move for b
miao [6d\]: this is not su yang new style
kurii [2d\]: doesn't seem unreasonable
gacua [1d\]: this is not a severe cut at the first glance
aldero [?\]: i wonder where is going to go
kamistar [?\]: what door key move unlocks?
]
;W[lh]C[aldero [?\]: * he going to go
awais [4k\]: b is going to have some trouble living there, unless he did that just to have aji
bert [4d?\]: b will take s8
miao [6d\]: b13 huge
VongNguyet [1d\]: b e 7 big ?
miao [6d\]: c9 too
chan123 [2k\]: b decided to give some handi?
BlindTaub [1k\]: i've lost the plot
bareeagle: b should get something in ctr for win
BlindTaub [1k\]: does b need a move to live or what?
awais [4k\]: b d9 first? then make use of center?
Ikay [10k\]: can he play around k10 then go out
Ikay [10k\]: ?
bareeagle: I do not see hope here
aldero [?\]: b will take s8 > looks like!
awais [4k\]: r8 here is small for b if w just lets b have s8 area
Piggen [3k\]: h5 ? :P
chan123 [2k\]: e7 maybe
awais [4k\]: w can use r8 to build a strong center
Achiles [?\]: p9 and forget
awais [4k\]: if b r8's
bareeagle: around h5 is a chance
jyka [2k\]: e17 big
awais [4k\]: what is best move for b here?
miao [6d\]: tenuki
chan123 [2k\]: god know
bareeagle: i think b should win the game
awais [4k\]: i agree with tenuki
awais [4k\]: but where?
awais [4k\]: many possibilities
k23 [3k\]: b needs t12 right?
chan123 [2k\]: no
awais [4k\]: no
awais [4k\]: b is alive there regardless
backpack1 [2d\]: j6 =
backpack1 [2d\]: `?
k23 [3k\]: ok tnx
Achiles [?\]: f3
]
;B[ln]C[miao [6d\]: j6 wrong line
Ikay [10k\]: ohh
kurii [2d\]: wow
miao [6d\]: wow
Piggen [3k\]: O.
awais [4k\]: hmm
backpack1 [2d\]: well, its the same line ^^
miao [6d\]: maybe ok
miao [6d\]: lol
]
;W[mo]
;B[jn]C[miao [6d\]: totally different meaning
k23 [3k\]: preparing for p9 cut?
awais [4k\]: w waiting to see where b goes
miao [6d\]: just making life in centr
miao [6d\]: center
Ikay [10k\]: he may live in here, there is a lot of space
miao [6d\]: leave w shape hopeless
]
;W[km]C[awais [4k\]: peep is good for w here
]
;B[kn]C[awais [4k\]: m7 to get wall
]
;W[io]C[awais [4k\]: or  k7
Wang1 [1k\]: B could alive?
awais [4k\]: k9?
Piggen [3k\]: j8 ?
VongNguyet [1d\]: h14
awais [4k\]: or m9?
bert [4d?\]: b can cut q10 p10 p9 and get  o9 o8 n10 in sente
bareeagle: j7
awais [4k\]: I would k9 here
bareeagle: enough room for live
]
;B[pj]
;W[oj]C[awais [4k\]: ah
]
;B[ok]
;W[nj]C[awais [4k\]: wow
bert [4d?\]: oops
]
;B[nk]C[Piggen [3k\]: didn't b cut too early?
SIscurge [5d\]: hmmm, doesnt feel right for black, s8stone is small
awais [4k\]: i think b cut too early
Piggen [3k\]: i would try to make a nice shape with l6 and then cut
]
;W[ml]C[awais [4k\]: ah
]
;B[mk]C[bareeagle: not for s8, absolutely
awais [4k\]: m8
awais [4k\]: no
awais [4k\]: lol
]
;W[lj]C[awais [4k\]: n10
]
;B[lk]C[awais [4k\]: n7 or l10?
Pl4typus [8k\]: time left for both players?
]
;W[kk]C[Ikay [10k\]: l10?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 27 minutes for white and 24 for black
harpo [?\]: o7 m8 r7
]
;B[kj]C[ptitlou [3d\]: k10 ?
]
;W[li]C[kurii [2d\]: w no points
Piggen [3k\]: w looks mad
k23 [3k\]: l8?
]
;B[qm]C[Pl4typus [8k\]: i'd surrender if i was white
awais [4k\]: no, this is good for w
Falcon89 [2k?\]: nah, too early, P14
]
;W[pm]C[Lukan [6d\]: naive moyo strategy from white...
Falcon89 [2k?\]: a good fight is coming up
longkui [-\]: p7?
Winnetou [?\]: r7 was too early?
DeepTsetse [?\]: Black owns so much edge territory already.  Where is white's going to come from?
]
;B[kl]C[Winnetou [?\]: Why not l8 first?
bareeagle: q6 late
]
;W[jk]
;B[jl]C[awais [4k\]: b has upperhand here
awais [4k\]: leading
chan123 [2k\]: o7?
JesusTeAma [3k\]: hane ?
awais [4k\]: hane makes b stronger
JesusTeAma [3k\]: alow cut in sente in m8
]
;W[il]C[JesusTeAma [3k\]: see :) 
bareeagle: b has 2 eyes
awais [4k\]: b can use the hane to get even stronger
awais [4k\]: i guess w doesn't have much of a choice
awais [4k\]: j9
k23 [3k\]: j9 makes w stronger
kamistar [?\]: whats with the stream
awais [4k\]: yes, but w has less territory
awais [4k\]: w gets stringer, but gets confined as well
awais [4k\]: stronger*
]
;B[ik]
;W[jj]
;B[ij]C[awais [4k\]: j10
]
;W[ji]C[awais [4k\]: j7
]
;B[hl]C[awais [4k\]: b sooo agressive
]
;W[im]
;B[in]C[JesusTeAma [3k\]: testing move 
]
;W[jm]
;B[ll]
;W[hm]
;B[hn]
;W[gm]C[ptitlou [3d\]: what is b doing here i wonder
k23 [3k\]: odd sequence for b
miao [6d\]: su feeling relaxed here
miao [6d\]: i think
awais [4k\]: yeah i agree
]
;B[pn]C[merga [7k\]: D=
awais [4k\]: w has to decide what to sacrifice
awais [4k\]: p6 is the more aggressive move for w
Ikay [10k\]: p7?
Piggen [3k\]: p7 q8 
goren2 [2k\]: q8
Trumelunki [3d\]: Game still going on?
awais [4k\]: either p6 or m7 for w here
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: still going
kamistar [?\]: whats with the offair thing at ustream
chan123 [2k\]: p7 q8 r8
]
;W[om]C[Naab [5k\]: stream keeps crashing :E
]
;B[pl]
;W[ql]C[Ikay [10k\]: like i said :) even if he shouldn't
]
;B[rm]
;W[ol]
;B[sl]
;W[pl]C[k23 [3k\]: p6
tezukazone [4d\]: p6 
]
;B[on]C[Naab [5k\]: bamboo?
Piggen [3k\]: lkay w may play wrong too
Trumelunki [3d\]: When are you guys going to evening sauna? Was planning to come and say hello.
awais [4k\]: m7
chan123 [2k\]: n7
Ikay [10k\]: yes he do :)
chan123 [2k\]: over
]
;W[nm]
;B[nn]C[Ikay [10k\]: ko?
jyka [2k\]: w really bad
randomID [4d?\]: bad ?
jyka [2k\]: yes
chan123 [2k\]: no other way
chan123 [2k\]: all forcing move
randomID [4d?\]: he didn't have the choice here
suerte [3k\]: sad
bareeagle: basically over
barty [2d\]: question n6
barty [2d\]: ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Trumelunki: the first ones are already there.
Piggen [3k\]: n6 m7 n7 r6 ?
barty [2d\]: could kill white all
awais [4k\]: not over yet...
bareeagle: m7 sente
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the rest of us will head that way once games are over
JesusTeAma [3k\]: m7 is gote
barty [2d\]: n6 m7 n7 r6 f6 
HoTing [2d\]: both ways looks bad
awais [4k\]: n6 here
Ikay [10k\]: m7 now lead to a ko no?
JesusTeAma [3k\]: if w go to m7 
bareeagle: after m7 connection is as easy as abc
Trumelunki [3d\]: thanks scribe
JesusTeAma [3k\]: he will nedd give up a huge territory bellow
Piggen [3k\]: f6 l4 l5 g4 ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: you know that its't at ida's this year right?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: *iida
Ikay [10k\]: i don't get why m7 is wrong?
RegrubSuna [-\]: Isn't N6 the only move???
]
;W[mn]
;B[lm]
;W[mm]C[Naab [5k\]: n6 seems to be the only move :/
Muttley [3k\]: because w wants N6 to work, lkay
Stradmann [7k\]: m7 a think, works too
Naab [5k\]: I don't see how else white is going to fight
k23 [3k\]: m7 gave up p4 stones
Muttley [3k\]: the question is whether there is a geta
Trumelunki [3d\]: yeah, I do. It's an easy bike ride for me.
Muttley [3k\]: if so, w have considerably more than if w m7
]
;B[no]C[Ikay [10k\]: he want to kill everything ok
JesusTeAma [3k\]: ugly fight 
k23 [3k\]: alive in gote?
Trumelunki [3d\]: white kill k6 stones first
JEGO [6k\]: O4?
Trumelunki [3d\]: then can live with q5 
JesusTeAma [3k\]: seem a ambiguos sequence
JesusTeAma [3k\]: and after all b will kill lr corner
kamistar [?\]: whoa
Pl4typus [8k\]: someone flipped the board C:?
]
;W[qn]C[Achiles [?\]: nice move
DeepTsetse [?\]: What was that all about.  The ghost of the vomiting game?
]
;B[kp]C[Ikay [10k\]: simply r6
kamistar [?\]: "can i kill kill everything"
fishpond [8k?\]: no way
]
;W[ko]
;B[jo]
;W[lp]C[Ikay [10k\]: how many time  do they have?
F525 [1k\]: Probably over 10 time, but not over 30 time.
jwefkw: how much time*
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: white 15 min black 20
goren2 [2k\]: o4 seems free?
jyka [2k\]: what w want ? don't understanf
Ikay [10k\]: thx
Meto [2d\]: o4
barty [2d\]: o4 bad
barty [2d\]: o4 tenuki for black
barty [2d\]: o4 small now
Achiles [?\]: l3
]
;B[ip]
;W[kq]
;B[iq]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Black has way too much cash -Antti
fishpond [8k?\]: fat lady warming up in wings
Lukan [6d\]: of course
Jermelle [5k?\]: lol
]
;W[np]C[barty [2d\]: o4 sente now
]
;B[fn]C[kamistar [?\]: activate the weapons of mass destruction
Piggen [3k\]: o4 a waste?
JEGO [6k\]: n4 cutting move after o4 possible now
]
;W[rr]C[fishpond [8k?\]: what does N4 cut?
JesusTeAma [3k\]: nothing he is drug
]
;B[lr]C[Meto [2d\]: o1 
]
;W[kr]
;B[ns]C[JEGO [6k\]: nothing but needs a move
Achiles [?\]: with k6 safe o4 necessary
RegrubSuna [-\]: J'ai pensé la noir a été un hérisson volant.
jyka [2k\]: f8
]
;W[fm]
;B[em]C[JesusTeAma [3k\]: f8 would be too passive
bareeagle: no chance for w to turn around the game
GoldRoger7 [2d\]: resign soon
]
;W[gk]
;B[el]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Won't be long now, I think -Antti
Lukan [6d\]: b+30
]
;W[fk]
;B[gn]C[bareeagle: f9 or c9
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: g6 says "I've got this"
bareeagle: y
JEGO [6k\]: yes black got the corner
kamistar [?\]: like a g6
SIscurge [5d\]: w should start some provocation like f17 g16 c18 
Achiles [?\]: 50p corner
JesusTeAma [3k\]: just the corner is up to 45 points 
JesusTeAma [3k\]: what a corner
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: White resigns
bareeagle: the corner equals to the ctr 
Meto [2d\]: game over
awesome [4k\]: completely resignable
RegrubSuna [-\]: Completely awesome resignation
JEGO [6k\]: h1 for white now
Piggen [3k\]: w resigned
rats [2d?\]: resign for white now ;)
bareeagle: that's 2d difference
apina [1d\]: this means it's antti against jeff tomorrow morning?
RegrubSuna [-\]: apina, why would you thing that?
Achiles [?\]: e5 looks so alone
jyka [2k\]: e17 big now
Backflash [-\]: game is over, b+r
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: next round tomorrow morning. see you all then.
Achiles [?\]: thx!
apina [1d\]: because they are only two in three wins?
Goeland [10k\]: Thank for showing us the game
]))))
