(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[15/300 Canadian]
GN[YliGo Cup Finals, Game Two]PW[Pekka Lukkari]PB[Mikko Siukola]WR[4d]BR[4d]DT[2012-06-09]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[YliGo [-\]: Game starts in 10 minutes
Seagal [2d\]: HYVÄ KUNKKU! ÄLÄ HÄVIÄ!
Seagal [2d\]: kunkulla muumilimua?
snowman [-\]: katsojilla habanero pepper perunalastuja
Seagal [2d\]: aika tulista :)
Seagal [2d\]: veikkaan tengeniä ekaksi siirroksi
loto [2d?\]: is this game finnish?
Seagal [2d\]: juu
Tien [7d\]: Final decision for the champion of the largest go club in Finland?
Tien [7d\]: Well, if black wins, there'll be one more game
Tien [7d\]: So it's kadoban
snowman [-\]: best-of-three is a cut-throat business
loto [2d?\]: best of 3 is good. it's a little better than best of 1 but not as long as best of 5
]
;B[pp]
;W[dp]
;B[cd]
;W[pd]C[loto [2d?\]: cross fuseki favors white
]
;B[nc]
;W[qf]C[loto [2d?\]: pekka lukkari beat the reigning champion in game 1. if he wins, then he becomes the undisputed champion of the world
]
;B[pb]C[snowman [-\]: toto...
]
;W[qc]C[loto [2d?\]: hate.
loto [2d?\]: you.
]
;B[kc]C[maatuska [-\]: Täys luottamus Kunkkuun. Mä lupasin pom pomit viimeseen finaaliin kunhan se hoitaa tän.  Kuka lähtee mukaan cheerleadaamaan?
]
;W[ec]
;B[ed]
;W[fd]
;B[ee]C[Tien [7d\]: Such a plan huh
Seagal [2d\]: mä oon messis! Hyvä Kunkku!
Tien [7d\]: Not bad
]
;W[dc]
;B[cc]C[maatuska [-\]: jei!
Tien [7d\]: I would have considered c17 instead of d17
]
;W[jc]C[Tien [7d\]: May have been that f16 was already better off at d16
loto [2d?\]: i think d17 is better than c17
Tien [7d\]: Well, this move has correct spirit in any case
loto [2d?\]: c17 gives black the extra push
Tien [7d\]: Oh, I wouldn't play f18 in the sequence, but b18 instead
snowman [-\]: h16?
]
;B[hc]C[Tien [7d\]: Gentlemen, I believe we will witness a spectacular game
snowman [-\]: a chaos will ensue
loto [2d?\]: i see
snowman [-\]: which way did the butterfly go
loto [2d?\]: not sure i like b18 either, but i'm not the 7d :-)
Tien [7d\]: I just want to avoid making a position on the upper side, since l17 is already strong enough
Tien [7d\]: So I value the corner more
loto [2d?\]: makes sense
loto [2d?\]: ty
pupukani [1d\]: n17 
snowman [-\]: hmm, h16 was a typo but might have been a good trick anyway :)
Tien [7d\]: Hehe
Tien [7d\]: Pupukani, I take k16 then
pupukani [1d\]: o16 then
pupukani [1d\]: and faitoo!
]
;W[jd]C[Shador [1k\]: Tien, how about the NGA simul match? :o
]
;B[gd]
;W[md]C[loto [2d?\]: just f15?
loto [2d?\]: trade is a little better for w, but b sente
]
;B[nd]
;W[kd]C[Tien [7d\]: It's not much of a trade unless o17 also dies
loto [2d?\]: that's what i was assuming
]
;B[lb]C[Michi86 [5k\]: mitäs tääl oikein tapahtuu
loto [2d?\]: but perhhaps not a good assumption
Tien [7d\]: Seems relatively difficult to kill alright
YliGo [-\]: If someone can summon some gold star admin to event this game, that would be nice :)
Adin [1d\]: i'll try to contact one
]
;W[jb]C[YliGo [-\]: thanks!
loto [2d?\]: all the goldies are asleep
loto [2d?\]: the bears need to come home and wake them up
]
;B[nf]
;W[fc]
;B[fe]C[snowman [-\]: no trade
]
;W[gc]C[snowman [-\]: and no style
]
;B[he]
;W[hb]C[Mokki [2d?\]: looks hard for white
]
;B[cn]
;W[cl]C[Liisa [2d\]: i was thinking that white is pretty well
Javaness [3d\]: pemposterous
]
;B[en]
;W[ci]
;B[fp]
;W[bp]
;B[bo]C[Seagal [2d\]: is w in trougble?
]
;W[fq]
;B[gq]
;W[eq]C[Seagal [2d\]: very painful F3
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;B[gp]
;W[qn]C[Tien [7d\]: Yeah, wouldn't want to play it
Tien [7d\]: But the upper side was good for white after all
Seagal [2d\]: yea
Tien [7d\]: I guess black still has an edge
Tien [7d\]: Albeit a small one
]
;B[np]
;W[qq]C[Seagal [2d\]: wow
]
;B[qp]
;W[rp]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: needs more tien and jeff
]
;B[pq]
;W[rr]
;B[qr]
;W[rq]C[loto [2d?\]: jeff chang?
triangle: gooo !!
Brian987 [8k\]: the time is not moving
Seagal [2d\]: jup
Tien [7d\]: Jeff is holding a NGA simul
]
;B[cg]
;W[el]C[Warfreak2 [4d\]: the bga should ask jeff to comment on the championship games
chrislo [6k\]: hello, is there a stream video of this game ?
]
;B[dk]C[loto [2d?\]: no, christo
]
;W[ck]C[Tien [7d\]: R3 was good
chrislo [6k\]: thx loto
loto [2d?\]: christo, would you like to go on an adventure with me?
chrislo [6k\]: WHAT ?
loto [2d?\]: oh, chrisLo. sorry, i confused you for somebody else
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i'll go on an adventure with you
snowman [-\]: toto...
Millard [4k?\]: me too
cherisse [1k?\]: :))
Chesh1234 [17k\]: i cant see black plan here. can somebody explain me? i mean must he do something on the right side or better just try to build moyo? 
snowman [-\]: don't worry about the black's grand plan, i'm sure there's none
loto [2d?\]: then come to the great hall and we shall drink a flagon of mead and begin our journey!
]
;B[gm]C[triangle: yay a journey !
zachary9k [9k\]: ill go too!
loto [2d?\]: chesh, me is the first person singular objective pronoun
peacefulgo [4d\]: count me in
triangle: this is going to be so great
zachary9k [9k\]: so so far , on the trip we have...
Chesh1234 [17k\]: so? am i using it incorrect way?  
loto [2d?\]: no
loto [2d?\]: well, yes
triangle: you are speaking the language in the wrong way
loto [2d?\]: you should have said "explain it to me" not "explain me" which is what prompted me to define it
triangle: but is fine, since can understand irregardfully
Chesh1234 [17k\]: yeah got it. tnx. 
]
;W[lm]C[loto [2d?\]: glad i could not help
triangle: zachary9k: we have a hovercraft !
zachary9k [9k\]: triangle, zachary9k, Millard, loto, Warfreak2, cherisse, and peacefulgo
wolokom [4k\]: what should white do?
Seagal [2d\]: wow haengma!
triangle: m7 is boardsuji
loto [2d?\]: i'll play a game of haengma
]
;B[lo]C[snowman [-\]: i like that
]
;W[jm]C[loto [2d?\]: _ _ _  _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
zachary9k [9k\]: _______________________
snowman [-\]: maybe not a winning move but nice feeling
zachary9k [9k\]: _ _ _
triangle: ............................................
wolokom [4k\]: m7 is this well done?
zachary9k [9k\]: ...................................................'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
peacefulgo [4d\]: best. trip. everrrrrrrrrrr
]
;B[kl]C[zachary9k [9k\]: '...........................'
]
;W[ln]C[loto [2d?\]: okay. this should stop. let us discuss the game. that is the first part of the adventure
zachary9k [9k\]: ok
]
;B[ko]
;W[jn]C[zachary9k [9k\]: \]this be the first part of the uh.... go adventure
zachary9k [9k\]: (lord of the rings reference)
triangle: i think the game is extremely intense !!!!!!!!!!
]
;B[gr]C[triangle: look at that move !
]
;W[cq]C[triangle: it mEANS something
zachary9k [9k\]: ?
wolokom [4k\]: is here anybody who is happy with white?
Tien [7d\]: White seems to have an edge on territory
triangle: R10 looks like a nice spot
loto [2d?\]: right side is big. b should be able to do something there with attacking 4 white stones at m6
]
;B[jo]C[loto [2d?\]: g2 was nice sente
snowman [-\]: hard to forecast the winner yet
Chesh1234 [17k\]: l8 stone now is a looks a little lost no? 
triangle: l8 wil turn out to be the winning move
Seagal [2d\]: its kikashi. its supposed to look like it
Javaness [3d\]: wait a minute
loto [2d?\]: l8 could still function
peacefulgo [4d\]: o13
Javaness [3d\]: are they just trying to draw YliGo's avatar on the goban?
loto [2d?\]: haha
triangle: l8 is close to tengen
zachary9k [9k\]: haha
Seagal [2d\]: :)
wolokom [4k\]: is w c 8 alive?
zachary9k [9k\]: se says
triangle: that means it has POWER
zachary9k [9k\]: w+19.5
]
;W[me]
;B[ne]C[Shana [4d\]: w+10ish right now i think
zachary9k [9k\]: *93.5
Muttley [1k\]: black centre would be awesome with about 4 free moves
Millard [4k?\]: b wins imo
snowman [-\]: ok, java, now what?
]
;W[og]C[zachary9k [9k\]: se is so inaccurate
Muttley [1k\]: so the question (to me) is how to get sente 4 times ...
snowman [-\]: i waited for a minute
wolokom [4k\]: p 13 is fine
loto [2d?\]: white side grows
loto [2d?\]: err, right*
zachary9k [9k\]: fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
Mokki [2d?\]: Q7 here?
triangle: what else happen on this journey ?
Vallkan [10k\]: why kuy players judge 4 dan's moves?
K78: p13 an attack move more than solid side building
zachary9k [9k\]: it is still techally white side
snowman [-\]: what's the value of q2?
snowman [-\]: 14 points or more?
tokoitei [5k\]: rank doesn't matter in kibitz, it's always bad
Vallkan [10k\]: snow man, its yose
wolokom [4k\]: if w 8 c is alive but  is that true?
Vallkan [10k\]: no need to play it now
Millard [4k?\]: why 10kyu players judging kyu players on judging dan players?
K78: I would R18
loto [2d?\]: se may not be very accurate, but at least he is precise
triangle: why are you judging people judging people judging people judging peoples' moves ?
zachary9k [9k\]: XD
Vallkan [10k\]: First i was not judging
zachary9k [9k\]: a riddle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shana [4d\]: why is java such a lazy admin >.<
triangle: I wasn't talking to you
Vallkan [10k\]: I just sked why kuy judge dans
snowman [-\]: i prefer judge dee over judge dredd
Millard [4k?\]: hence you judged kyu players to be arrogant 
Chesh1234 [17k\]: we dont judje dans. we talk about moves) 
loto [2d?\]: shana, lazy is as lazy does. since lazy does nothing, java is not lazy
triangle: therefore java is nothing
medical [3k\]: b must get some kind of a reduction now
snowman [-\]: you know, q2 has some implications on the right side too
medical [3k\]: or invasion
Vallkan [10k\]: Milliard, whant to challenge me?
]
;B[pm]C[triangle: WHOA!
loto [2d?\]: some suggested q7
loto [2d?\]: b wants to kill white
Millard [4k?\]: to what
loto [2d?\]: dangers plan but perhaps only one
Vallkan [10k\]: no i think he jsut want to reduce white
loto [2d?\]: dangerous*
Vallkan [10k\]: B cant kill him
triangle: Q7 says "I will consume your soul"
triangle: "after lunch"
Vallkan [10k\]: R9!!!!!!!
loto [2d?\]: vallkan, b is on the wrong end of territory to just reduce and it is difficult to make anything in the center if m6 lives
triangle: CUT !!!!!
wolokom [4k\]: r 10 seems better for me 
Liisa [2d\]: I think that q7 is a proper punishment for p13.
triangle: yes but how to punsish Q7 ?
triangle: is the question w must answer
Shana [4d\]: q7 is the punishment, not to be punished
tokoitei [5k\]: nuclear tesuji
YliGo [-\]: b 33 mins, w 36 mins on the clock
loto [2d?\]: i think w should help m6
triangle: Q7 is the game of masochism
triangle: the punisher asking to be punished
trym [9k?\]: b really wants to threaten m6 ?
Shana [4d\]: q7 is a pentagon
triangle: a pentagon of DOOM ??
Shana [4d\]: of strawberries
Muttley [1k\]: b wants to isolate M6, triangle
triangle: ooh
bert [3d\]: i think w should cut thru q6
Millard [4k?\]: lmao
K78: clock display has misted up on my client
triangle: yeah Q6 is good
triangle: kill the whole damn lot of them
]
;W[pn]C[trym [9k?\]: w r18 sente?
triangle: YEAH !!!
K78: sauna not a good place for clocks
tokoitei [5k\]: K78, it's like that for everyone because it's a demo
loto [2d?\]: this falls into the helping m6 category
Muttley [1k\]: good question, trym
K78: Ah, cheers. I thought maybe someone forgot to start
triangle: Q6 says "I'll kill you before you can kill me!!"
wolokom [4k\]: very modern i think 
triangle: now they will fight to the death, except with less blood and carnage
]
;B[nm]C[triangle: well, less blood. plenty of carnage
loto [2d?\]: b says "show me your moves"
K78: o6 seems obvious move
Finn4d [6d\]: what is YliGo?
Millard [4k?\]: does he have an alias captain falcon
triangle: o6 not good
triangle: O5 !!!
loto [2d?\]: according to tien, it is the largest go club in finland
Seagal [2d\]: helsinki university go club
triangle: maybe that is no good either
bert [3d\]: p7 
K78: I think p7 is answered by P8, and B feels happy with the exchange
triangle: CUT !!!
Shana [4d\]: SEKI!!!
peacefulgo [4d\]: w thinking about q8?
triangle: actually o6 might work
Muttley [1k\]: Shana, please, it's ko!   semeai!  seki!
triangle: but it would be insanely dangerous
loto [2d?\]: stop shouting, please. my eyes are very sensitive
triangle: more dangerous than the space mission
K78: What is problem with o6?
triangle: probably p6
loto [2d?\]: o6 doesn't connect
medical [3k\]: couldn't b also o9, if w tries to prevent connection?
wolokom [4k\]: what about c 9 groupe?
loto [2d?\]: you mean p7 o9, medical? looks odd
medical [3k\]: not after p7, that needs more local respons
loto [2d?\]: c9 group is okay
triangle: A10 !
triangle: that will crush c9 group
]
;W[ll]C[loto [2d?\]: then o6 o9? i don't see where you want to play o9
wolokom [4k\]: if this is true w is ahead
]
;B[on]C[medical [3k\]: loto, what would you play after w o6?
triangle: this is very big !!!
]
;W[mh]
;B[qb]C[Shadow [3k\]: hm what is this tournament?
loto [2d?\]: r7
Seagal [2d\]: yligo cup finals
Liisa [2d\]: yes, r7 might win. Perhaps p13 was good because it forced b to play r18
]
;W[qm]
;B[pl]C[loto [2d?\]: game is close
K78: But r18 is a big move. I would rather play r18 and force B to play p13
loto [2d?\]: p13 helsp w's middle group, too
Shadow [3k\]: yligo? is t organized by the EGF?
loto [2d?\]: it is a finnish go club, probably not?
]
;W[hn]C[K78: What is the strategy of h6?
]
;B[gn]C[Seagal [2d\]: helsinki university go club
Seagal [2d\]: cup finals to decide the king of the club
loto [2d?\]: it's good to be the king
]
;W[rb]C[BadDuke [4k\]: untill the peasant storm the castle
]
;B[ra]C[Seagal [2d\]: :)
Shana [4d\]: just enslave em all so they dont get a chance
loto [2d?\]: that wouldn't happen if the dukes controlled their land fairly
]
;W[rc]C[loto [2d?\]: but when you have baddukes...
BadDuke [4k\]: :-)
Javaness [3d\]: tight spot
]
;B[lg]C[K78: What is the bestt attack against the left side group? B10?
Shana [4d\]: cant attack it
loto [2d?\]: just b12 and b7
blackman [1d\]: r8/r9 big
K78: If B12 is sente, seems like pretty profitable direction to play in
loto [2d?\]: or aerial pressure if you think the center is important
K78: You mean D11 for centre?
]
;W[mg]
;B[mf]
;W[lf]
;B[le]
;W[kf]
;B[ld]C[trym [9k?\]: w so happy now
trym [9k?\]: b sealed in
loto [2d?\]: not sure this was good for the black player
loto [2d?\]: well, i guess living is good
Tien [7d\]: Time to look at the left side
loto [2d?\]: so yeah, but still white happy
mihi [5d\]: E10 
]
;W[qk]C[Tien [7d\]: Holy cutting aji, Batman
K78: r9 big, but is it urgent? 
loto [2d?\]: s5 s6
YliGo [-\]: b 27 mins, w 21 mins on the clock
Mokki [2d?\]: well this makes Q2 sente for b if nothing else
Uberdude [4d?\]: s5 s6 you lost points and eyes
Liisa [2d\]: R9 was urgent. 
loto [2d?\]: yes, i'm just saying, lots of aji here
Tien [7d\]: Time to get greedy and attempt to find the best way to exploit it
K78: D11 direction looks less useful now so maybe dig on 2nd line against left side?
blackman [1d\]: maybe r8 would have been better
Tien [7d\]: Locally s9 instead is correct
Tien [7d\]: But I get the feeling even q2 is bigger
blackman [1d\]: q2 endgame
Millard [4k?\]: what about for some more points in the upper right?
Shana [4d\]: q2 has a huge followup for w as well, definitely bigger than this
Shana [4d\]: b couldnt have taken away the right side in 1 move
loto [2d?\]: go is a game where two players use black and white stones on an empty board to satisfy their craving for war and domination
]
;B[pj]
;W[ql]C[wolokom [4k\]: oh
]
;B[pk]C[loto [2d?\]: maybe q10 not so hot
loto [2d?\]: what sort of time remains, mr. scribe, sir?
deluxe [5k\]: hmm
YliGo [-\]: b 24 mins, w 20 mins
K78: must be shift to l.h.s. now, innit?
loto [2d?\]: ty
Liisa [2d\]: perhaps now left side is important
paar [4k\]: k6 idea doesn't seem worth it
loto [2d?\]: q2
Liisa [2d\]: also white has plenty of potential in the center to win the game.
loto [2d?\]: i like w
Shana [4d\]: b has attacking potential too
K78: g14?
Mokki [2d?\]: J10 seems to fix a lot of problems for w groups
loto [2d?\]: maybe w should b12
loto [2d?\]: maybe biggest
loto [2d?\]: ?
Shana [4d\]: b12 prolly wont be answered
Liisa [2d\]: J10 indeed looks very good. 
blackman [1d\]: q1 is gote for black so q2 is not so important for white
Tien [7d\]: N10 or so for me
]
;W[gf]
;B[ge]C[Liisa [2d\]: that was my move ^^
loto [2d?\]: looks like w agress with n10 idea
Shana [4d\]: aww i was thinking h8 but n10 looks better xD
]
;W[lj]C[Tien [7d\]: Hmm, this game is probably difficult for white to win
wolokom [4k\]: indeed
Javaness [3d\]: black can lose it 
loto [2d?\]: i like w ^^ 
loto [2d?\]: i think he will win
Millard [4k?\]: everything needs to go right for white to win
loto [2d?\]: everything needs to go white*
loto [2d?\]: el oh el
wolokom [4k\]: noboddy can say it is a boring match
]
;B[hl]C[loto [2d?\]: n10 looks superior to m10 though
]
;W[dj]C[Shana [4d\]: well w didnt pick my move but b did xD
loto [2d?\]: that means it was important point, shana
loto [2d?\]: so you still win
]
;B[qh]C[Shana [4d\]: wheres my prize?
zachary9k [9k\]: is this the second part of the adventure?
loto [2d?\]: java distributes the prizes
loto [2d?\]: i will announce the second part of the adventure when i figure out a way to make money from you suckers
]
;W[qg]C[K78: I would not have played d10. B12 feels like more profit to me
zachary9k [9k\]: gr..............
loto [2d?\]: d10 helps control black center potentiatila
]
;B[es]C[zachary9k [9k\]: o hate u, loto
loto [2d?\]: o sure does hate u
zachary9k [9k\]: ggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.................
K78: b12 has annoying follow up at b14
]
;W[dr]C[wolokom [4k\]: the count machine says 0,5 points for w 
loto [2d?\]: i like b12, too
loto [2d?\]: i agree it is bigger than a10
loto [2d?\]: d10*
loto [2d?\]: but white is stronger than me
]
;B[ph]
;W[pc]C[zachary9k [9k\]: im adding u to my list of rude people, loto
]
;B[ob]C[wolokom [4k\]: hm
loto [2d?\]: it would be an honor, now let's discuss the game, friend zachary
]
;W[ke]C[zachary9k [9k\]: ........................
]
;B[lc]C[wolokom [4k\]: j 10
loto [2d?\]: yes, two lines interect at a point which is where white and black must place their stones. nice comment, zack
zachary9k [9k\]: .....................................................................................................................................................................................:(
loto [2d?\]: i still like b12
Javaness [3d\]: ahem
loto [2d?\]: maybe that is the weakness in me
deluxe [5k\]: loto ur being mean 
zachary9k [9k\]: :(((((((
Freak [?\]: children be nice now
Shana [4d\]: freak O.o
deluxe [5k\]: :3
K78: Is j5 sente yet? Make a change from talkiing about b12...
loto [2d?\]: j5 should be sente
deluxe [5k\]: i would answer that if i was bladk
loto [2d?\]: at least i'd respond :-)
]
;W[jj]C[loto [2d?\]: but j5 is not sente for b maybe so no rush to play it
deluxe [5k\]: because it's black's only big territory
deluxe [5k\]: yeah
Shana [4d\]: lame... w too scared
]
;B[ig]C[K78: k10 m10 feels meagre way to get points
Freak [?\]: hey Shana are you actually 4d?
Shana [4d\]: of course not
Shana [4d\]: im 9p
]
;W[jh]C[Freak [?\]: ...
Freak [?\]: yes
snowman [-\]: about the same
Freak [?\]: and im 4000k
Freak [?\]: if that exists
Shana [4d\]: thats alright, study hard and you'll get to 3000k
Freak [?\]: yep
Mokki [2d?\]: weak, I'm over 9000k
Freak [?\]: want to play a match shana?
]
;B[ik]C[Shana [4d\]: nope, i dont play :p
Freak [?\]: awww
Freak [?\]: I'll show you the real power of FREAK THE MIGHTY >:D!!!!!!
snowman [-\]: this is not the place, freaky
]
;W[bg]C[Freak [?\]: i play 4000k style and i can beat a 9p
Liisa [2d\]: b13 looks wrong
deluxe [5k\]: looks like there won't be big fighting anymore
deluxe [5k\]: kind of endgame-ish
snowman [-\]: well, white played the similar move in the previous game too
wolokom [4k\]: i think b will winn
Freak [?\]: yah
Freak [?\]: i agree
loto [2d?\]: b doesn't know how to respond
Freak [?\]: i don't know how to either loto
K78: b13 feels like trying extra hard to keep sente, or something more complex going on
Javaness [3d\]: just respond
snowman [-\]: the first one to play q2 will win
]
;B[bf]C[deluxe [5k\]: i would hane b14
Shana [4d\]: flip a coin, heads defend, tails take ^^
deluxe [5k\]: oh :3
K78: depends how much B wants sente. 
Freak [?\]: hey Shana
zachary9k [9k\]: what happend to loto?
Freak [?\]: I have a question to ask you
Shana [4d\]: and my answer is dolphins
Freak [?\]: you say you don't play but look at your match history
Freak [?\]: ....
Freak [?\]: play a match with me
wolokom [4k\]:  w must play brutal and finaly it helps but b wins
Millard [4k?\]: dolphins
loto [2d?\]: freak, pm shana to continue your harassment
Shana [4d\]: i needed a kibitz rank
praeludium [5d\]: b plays too soft
snowman [-\]: join the adventure with him
YliGo [-\]: b 15 mins, w 6:30 on the clock
hailthorn [7k\]: People who don't play usually don't want to lose rank.
]
;W[bh]C[praeludium [5d\]: q2 
deluxe [5k\]: but well white appreciates sente very much, he is that kind of player :3
Freak [?\]: yah so play me shana :D
Shana [4d\]: even if i play a [?\] i wont lose my rank, i just simply dont wanna :p
praeludium [5d\]: q2 seal the win
Freak [?\]: My main account is kghin
loto [2d?\]: :-X
Freak [?\]: :D
wolokom [4k\]: c 18?
Javaness [3d\]: be quiet please Freak
loto [2d?\]: d18 probably better than c18
deluxe [5k\]: but isn't it gote
wolokom [4k\]: but some kind of gote
]
;B[gg]C[K78: less gote than c18
snowman [-\]: these guys need a severe endgame lesson
]
;W[af]C[Muttley [1k\]: 45 w, b ...55?
]
;B[be]C[snowman [-\]: with a baseball bat, preferably
Uberdude [4d?\]: g13?
Uberdude [4d?\]: q2 so much bigger
]
;W[io]C[twoody [5k\]: c18 bigger than q2?
]
;B[ip]
;W[pr]
;B[or]
;W[qs]C[loto [2d?\]: q2 should be sente
medical [3k\]: so white catches up in endgame and wins?
snowman [-\]: now white needs to win to save my face :)
Uberdude [4d?\]: q2 is like 12 points
K78: where is white's best defence on right side center?
wolokom [4k\]: in this case? uberdude
]
;B[os]C[Muttley [1k\]: snowman, remind me to bring a crash helmet if I ever get a teaching game with you :)
]
;W[dg]C[wolokom [4k\]: ah
]
;B[cf]C[deluxe [5k\]: i think w is winning
snowman [-\]: the one in your picture, muttley?
]
;W[do]C[wolokom [4k\]: no
K78: Black C18 sente feel
]
;B[dn]
;W[dh]C[Muttley [1k\]: heh, yeah :)
Freak [?\]: if white wins this then there would he would be the new champion LD
Muttley [1k\]: that should do it
Freak [?\]: :D
loto [2d?\]: i have b+2
]
;B[bm]C[Freak [?\]: loto did you add the komi on there?
snowman [-\]: toto, you can't count now
loto [2d?\]: which means still too close for me to know what happens
]
;W[fg]C[wolokom [4k\]: b 7 is fine
loto [2d?\]: snowman, i would argue i can't count ever
]
;B[ff]C[snowman [-\]: i'll give you some time
Corrosive [1d?\]: go Kunkku
]
;W[gh]
;B[hg]C[Liisa [2d\]: w+4 is my counting here. right side is little unclear
loto [2d?\]: i did add komi, for what it's worth
snowman [-\]: c18 is largeish now
Freak [?\]: how much time does w have left?
Uberdude [4d?\]: k8 is quite a big reverse sente
]
;W[cb]
;B[bb]C[K78: As black, N9 has teeth
YliGo [-\]: b 9:51, w 0:43 on the clock
]
;W[db]C[deluxe [5k\]: oh well that's big
Uberdude [4d?\]: w got c18 and q2, that's not allowed
Freak [?\]: thx Yli
wolokom [4k\]: s 12
Uberdude [4d?\]: l9 now
]
;B[ak]C[snowman [-\]: white got the big points, looking good
loto [2d?\]: b likes this mini monkey
]
;W[fh]
;B[fk]
;W[ek]C[YliGo [-\]: w entersovertime
loto [2d?\]: s11 or s12 seem big
loto [2d?\]: err, maybe not
deluxe [5k\]: i was thinking of them
Uberdude [4d?\]: s12 is big
Uberdude [4d?\]: q13 cut can have l&d effect
]
;B[fj]C[deluxe [5k\]: yeah
K78: so maybe S12 first to prepare
]
;W[bj]C[loto [2d?\]: i thought white was just connected
K78: But first B wants to make his minimonkey sente
snowman [-\]: minimonkey=horse
]
;B[rh]C[deluxe [5k\]: kind of paradoxal
Shana [4d\]: minisnowman=icecream
]
;W[rg]C[deluxe [5k\]: :D
]
;B[rj]C[wolokom [4k\]: oh
]
;W[qj]C[K78: Q15 sente feel
K78: yrmv
]
;B[qi]C[snowman [-\]: i can't answer your punchline in this family-friend chat
]
;W[rk]C[loto [2d?\]: you said too much already
]
;B[kk]
;W[lk]
;B[ba]C[Liisa [2d\]: oh, white missed b19! 
]
;W[mn]C[loto [2d?\]: it was sente-ish wasn't it
snowman [-\]: well, these guys need my endgame lessons
Gardan [1d\]: poor guys
loto [2d?\]: the one involving bats?
snowman [-\]: yup
]
;B[nn]
;W[mo]
;B[mp]C[K78: Er, is it the lesson itself that is educational, or the threat of the lesson?
]
;W[hp]C[Mokki [2d?\]: when snowman sees bad endgame he morphs into batman
]
;B[hq]C[Hobbes [2k\]: w will win, to me
]
;W[ho]C[snowman [-\]: you count the value of the endgame play and don't let your "feelings" come in the way
Javaness [3d\]: there is no sin greater on this earth than a foul yose
loto [2d?\]: if you let your feelings get in the way, then you lose fingers. you like your fingers, don't you?
]
;B[ii]
;W[ji]C[Millard [4k?\]: don't you mean the opposite
K78: So heavy metal gloves advisable as well as a crash helmet if I go for teaching with you guys, then?
]
;B[jg]
;W[kg]C[snowman [-\]: i remember arguing with my fellow top go players if it's worth defending a living group just for the sake of it
deluxe [5k\]: it isn't if there's bigger moves elsewhere
]
;B[ic]C[snowman [-\]: they didn't agree :(
Tien [7d\]: Did this game go to yose after all?
deluxe [5k\]: though it's kind of rare
]
;W[ib]
;B[ei]
;W[ie]C[loto [2d?\]: go is complex, if you let your groups die you have less to worry about
Tien [7d\]: Oh, black cannot win
Tien [7d\]: Interesting
K78: and more ko threats for later
]
;B[hd]C[snowman [-\]: god save the king
Tien [7d\]: Long live the king
Shana [4d\]: die, stupid king
Javaness [3d\]: which king?
Gardan [1d\]: The king president for!
loto [2d?\]: witch king of angmar?
snowman [-\]: le roi est mort, vive la roi
Millard [4k?\]: the king of go obv
loto [2d?\]: who is leroy, snowman?
]
;W[oq]C[wolokom [4k\]: r 15 for b if he get it
snowman [-\]: not me :)
]
;B[nq]C[deluxe [5k\]: i heard the original title was Klonkku (Gollum) not Kunkku (King)
]
;W[oo]
;B[no]
;W[fl]C[medical [3k\]: i see, the propaganda of sauron lives strong
]
;B[gl]C[loto [2d?\]: it's actually the hatred and fear the morgoth sowed that lives on
]
;W[hj]C[Javaness [3d\]: read any good books lately?
YliGo [-\]: b enters overtime
animefreak [14k\]: yeah 
animefreak [14k\]: read thier eyes were watching god
]
;B[hk]C[snowman [-\]: the life of honinbo shuei was a good book
animefreak [14k\]: best book ever hehe
animefreak [14k\]: jk
loto [2d?\]: i'm reading the case book of sherlock holmes
snowman [-\]: i sleep hauntlessly like honinbo shuetsu nowadays, bursting into laugh in the night
deluxe [5k\]: i 've only been reading go books lately, basic tesuji dictionary and japanese tsumego books
loto [2d?\]: the night is full of terrors
]
;W[fr]
;B[fs]
;W[co]C[deluxe [5k\]: trying to train hard for takapotku u_u
loto [2d?\]: what is a takapotku?
deluxe [5k\]: tournament
deluxe [5k\]: next weekend
loto [2d?\]: oh
loto [2d?\]: i see
]
;B[ap]
;W[aq]
;B[ao]C[medical [3k\]: and loose translation of snapback
Javaness [3d\]: it's finnish for snapback I believe
deluxe [5k\]: yeah
]
;W[ds]C[deluxe [5k\]: never heard that used though
loto [2d?\]: btw, if anyone is playing in the tygem aga tournament, you're game starts soon
snowman [-\]: and what are you doing in this chat, deluxe
]
;B[ca]
;W[da]C[loto [2d?\]: your game*
deluxe [5k\]: looking cup finals?
loto [2d?\]: yuck. what an ugly typo i have made
snowman [-\]: there's no try
Mokki [2d?\]: T9 is quite big
deluxe [5k\]: so tired that i just lose if i play
]
;B[sg]
;W[sf]C[deluxe [5k\]: lost 3 won 1 game
]
;B[sh]
;W[re]
;B[qo]C[deluxe [5k\]: so i'm just trying to recover while kibitzing, then energy drink and play again
]
;W[ro]C[deluxe [5k\]: probably
]
;B[sk]C[loto [2d?\]: q5!
]
;W[sl]
;B[sj]
;W[rm]C[gondwana [5k\]: what about it ?
]
;B[ps]C[deluxe [5k\]: its sente
loto [2d?\]: b should like totally play it
deluxe [5k\]: :DD
]
;W[po]C[gondwana [5k\]: self atari ?
]
;B[op]C[Wagaboo [3k\]: q5 was big
loto [2d?\]: that's the best kind, gondwana
]
;W[bl]
;B[al]C[Javaness [3d\]: isn't O10 fairly vast?
]
;W[ij]C[loto [2d?\]: o10, avast
]
;B[ej]
;W[dl]C[wolokom [4k\]: dangerous
Liisa [2d\]: L19 biggest
Wagaboo [3k\]: i don't think it's big o10
loto [2d?\]: o10 looks big
Backflash [7k\]: i don't get d8
]
;B[qr]C[deluxe [5k\]: maybe it just looks :p
snowman [-\]: two or three points is big
loto [2d?\]: backflash, try changing your pickup line
]
;W[gj]
;B[gk]
(;W[ae]C[Backflash [7k\]: good one!
])
(;W[pr]
;B[ae]
;W[ag]C[Wagaboo [3k\]: T8T
snowman [-\]: you could join toto's great adventure
]
;B[ni]C[loto [2d?\]: that doesn't seem like the apporpriate reaction if you truly thought so, but thanks for the encouragement
]
;W[oh]
;B[oi]
;W[nk]C[loto [2d?\]: snowman, your on latrine duty for the adventure
Backflash [7k\]: i just couldn't think of anything witty and tried to be sarcastic
]
;B[mi]
;W[li]
;B[hi]C[deluxe [5k\]: mmm energy drink <3
loto [2d?\]: latrine makes deluxe think of energy drinks. i agree
Freak [?\]: how much time down white have left?
YliGo [-\]: both players in overtime
deluxe [5k\]: biological energy drink
wolokom [4k\]: w is ahead
]
;W[iq]
;B[jp]C[Wagaboo [3k\]:  didn't get much from o11 :)b
Backflash [7k\]: not even sure b can make it really close
]
;W[ir]C[snowman [-\]: the new generation is coming!
deluxe [5k\]: even though i'm rooting for black, guess w just wins
]
;B[im]
;W[in]
;B[jq]
;W[jr]
;B[kr]C[Wagaboo [3k\]: what is w doing ? Oo
Wagaboo [3k\]: is there ajji ?
Millard [4k?\]: l6 l3 threat for a point
wolokom [4k\]: what is white doing?
Backflash [7k\]: overplaying
Backflash [7k\]: what else?
Gardan [1d\]: both are in overtime
Liisa [2d\]: white is aiming to f5 and then there are few semedori points
Mokki [2d?\]: C7 looks decent now
]
;W[kq]
;B[lq]
;W[cm]C[Gardan [1d\]: and even if this fails, w doesn't lose much
snowman [-\]: semedori gets some extra points for white
loto [2d?\]: trying for semedori
wade [5d\]: w gained 2 pts with j2
]
;B[kj]
;W[ki]
;B[qr]
;W[go]
;B[fo]
;W[pr]
;B[sn]
;W[sm]
;B[qr]
;W[ks]
;B[lr]
;W[pr]
;B[ka]
;W[ja]
;B[qr]
;W[jk]
;B[jl]
;W[pr]
;B[nl]
;W[ok]
;B[ol]C[Liisa [2d\]: r2
zeekmund [2k\]: j14
]
;W[qr]
;B[oj]
;W[mk]
;B[kb]
;W[of]
;B[oe]
;W[pe]C[Backflash [7k\]: well b made it really close=\\
]
;B[pg]
;W[pf]C[gondwana [5k\]: j14 is 2 pts
Backflash [7k\]: 1?
Backflash [7k\]: in gote
gondwana [5k\]: it's sente for w
billy504 [2k\]: more than that right
]
;B[sb]
;W[qa]
;B[pa]C[Tien [7d\]: Clean win for white huh
]
;W[oc]C[Liisa [2d\]: yes, about 4-6 points
gondwana [5k\]: well, better than l18 at least
]
;B[nb]
;W[aj]C[MrEmDash [1k\]: closish game
MrEmDash [1k\]: :o
]
;B[bn]
;W[am]
;B[an]C[Javaness [3d\]: vast
Backflash [7k\]: a6?
Backflash [7k\]: eh?
loto [2d?\]: j15
Backflash [7k\]: ah
]
;W[if]
;B[hf]C[Backflash [7k\]: never alt tab in yose
]
;W[de]C[goren2 [3k\]: w by 5
]
;B[dd]
;W[df]C[loto [2d?\]: i always had faith in white
]
;B[jf]C[snowman [-\]: q2, didn't i tell you
]
;W[ce]
;B[qa]
;W[sc]
;B[sa]
;W[ch]
;B[bd]
;W[er]
;B[gs]
;W[ep]C[Wagaboo [3k\]: end
]
;B[hr]
;W[fm]
;B[fn]
;W[gi]
;B[eh]
;W[eg]C[Wagaboo [3k\]: nice dame
]
;B[is]
;W[fi]
;B[js]
;W[ef]C[gondwana [5k\]: chinese rules ?
Freak [?\]: who won?
]
;B[hh]
;W[ih]C[Backflash [7k\]: check se
]
;B[id]C[Liisa [2d\]: european rules
]
;W[je]
;B[nh]
;W[ng]
;B[il]C[Wagaboo [3k\]: w wins in any rules
]
;W[km]
;B[kn]
;W[hm]
;B[eo]
;W[dm]C[loto [2d?\]: many dame
]
;B[am]
;W[di]
;B[bk]
;W[em]
;B[nj]
;W[mj]
;B[ml]C[K78: B just built a B29 flying fortress
]
;W[mm]
;B[od]C[Freak [?\]: whats that?
loto [2d?\]: gg
]
;W[]C[loto [2d?\]: ty ty ty
]
;B[]TW[ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][eb][fb][gb][qd][rd][sd][qe][se][rf][lg][ah][kh][lh][ai][bi][cj][dk][rl][rn][sn][so][cp][sp][bq][dq][sq][ar][br][cr][sr][as][bs][cs][rs][ss]TB[aa][la][ma][na][oa][ab][mb][ac][bc][mc][ad][md][me][gf][pi][ri][si][om][kp][lp][iq][kq][mq][oq][ir][jr][mr][nr][hs][ks][ls][ms][ns]C[K78: big B2 shape
Backflash [7k\]: g14?
Freak [?\]: ah nice game
Freak [?\]: looks like mikko siukola isn't the defending champion anymore :P
YliGo [-\]: white wins by 6,5 points
YliGo [-\]: PEKKA LUKKARI IS THE NEW CHAMPION
Freak [?\]: so w wins by komi lol
snowman [-\]: jigo on the board
Freak [?\]: GRATZ PEKKA
Seagal [2d\]: congrats to pekka! thx yligo!
WoolyMaCha [4k?\]:  Thanks, YliGo
Freak [?\]: thx yiligoooooooooooooo
Freak [?\]: :DDDDDDDD
WoolyMaCha [4k?\]:  good game, W's opening was good
YliGo [-\]: Thanks for everyone, Pekka will defend his title next year! :)
Liisa [2d\]: pekka has improved a lot lately. congrats! It was very clear win against the Kunkku
WoolyMaCha [4k?\]: yes
pupukani [1d\]: ooooooh
pupukani [1d\]: congratz!!
Finnish8d [-\]: ah congrats ^^
Seagal [2d\]: pekka so stong
deluxe [5k\]: ohoh
]))
